Ambarisa Das, Alfred Ford Mayapur 15. Nov. 2004

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As a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, I [Ambarisa dasa] have to take with gravity, the statements of my Guru Maharaj. As Srila Prabhupada has stated three times in one day that he has been poisoned by someone, I have to hear these words with the utmost seriousness. To dismiss these statements as trivial or lacking authenticity is extremely offensive and cruel.

As such, I am not satisfied with the results of any of the investigations or reports issued so far. I do not believe that Balavanta prabhu was given adequate facility to complete his investigation. He has stated as much himself. Although there are some members of our society who believe this subject is better forgotten, I do not believe it can or should be until a full and proper investigation has been carried out.

We may never know the entire truth behind Srila Prabhupada's final pastimes. However, as the events surrounding these pastimes effect profoundly the dynamics of Srila Prabhupada's legacy and enduring society, I support Naveen Krishna prabhu and the newly formed November 14th Commission, in their dedicated efforts to set the record straight.

My participation is purely for honesty, fairness and justice. My role is to try, in my humble way, to keep an investigation from becoming a trial.

The process needs to be a professional and systematic gathering of facts.

Out of our love for Srila Prabhupada, I feel we need to put to rest, as much as possible, the lingering questions which are residing in the minds of many of our Godbrothers and Godsisters. We also need to create an accurate historical record. To do less would be negligent and indifferent.

Your servant,
Ambarisa dasa

From: RajaGuhyam Das
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 7:39 AM

Hare Krishna Ambarisa Prabhu
Please accept my obeisances. All Glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga.

It was quite surprising to read your letter announcing 'my thinking on this issue has changed' as reason for disclaiming your earlier public stand regarding an investigation into the alleged poisoning of His Divine Grace, Srila Prabhupada. When we take into account the heartfelt words used in your earlier letter (published on VNN), the turn around is almost unbelievable. In your earlier letter you began- 'To whom it may concern', and many were concerned because Ambarisa das was expressing concern. Now, sometime later, you write nonchalantly- "Seeing as my name was invoked at the start of this thread, I want to make a comment" (www.saraswata.net). Your transcendre is a private matter between you and your Guru Dev, but when you use God- given affluence to influence the minds of others with what you feel later is an incorrect opinion, you should not wait until prodded to bumptiously mitigate your faux pas, and then, offer no apology for it. Instead, you come out swinging at others who took your lead in the first place, accusing them of dishonesty and personal affront- "Publishing this letter on VNN is dishonest and personally offensive". This is very unlike the behaviour of a gentleman, what to speak of a Vaisnava.

Another startling revelation in your reversal is seen in this comparison- 'I have distanced myself from the investigation and investigators. I am way to busy with the service Srila Prabhupada personally asked me to do to spend time doing this, nor would I want to.' Your not wanting to spend time doing such a service is easily understood. It is indeed a thankless task without VIP treatment or back-slapping celebrity status. If there is/was ever a duty that demanded commitment without social, economic or political reward, this is it. Nonetheless, your paradigm shift is somewhat disturbing when compared to your previous posting- 'As a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, I have to take with gravity, the statements of my Guru Maharaj. As Srila Prabhupada has stated three times in one day that he has been poisoned by someone, I have to hear these words with the utmost seriousness. To dismiss these statements as trivial or lacking authenticity is extremely offensive and cruel.' After all, Srila Prabhupada has not withdrawn his statement- 'three times in one day that he was poisoned', but now it seems your current disposition reduces his statements to trivia 'lacking authenticity', and, by your own standards, has placed you in an 'extremely offensive and cruel' position when you declare- "I am way to busy with the service Srila Prabhupada personally asked me to do to spend time doing this, nor would I want to". This can hardly be considered a neutral position. To the contrary, your words are noticeably in conjunction with propaganda you lined up to challenge earlier; showing a 180 degree turn in your allegiance.

In summation, considering the evidence to support an investigation still stands as it did when you first accepted it: your position appears to have been altered by political manoeuvrings; your voice is being used as a medium to influence the uneducated masses and, to promote personal and corporate concerns over truth and justice, and, of equal importance, to go against what Sastra directs devotees do under the circumstances.

Next, you say you know people who are adamant on both sides of this issue, which, if we understand you correctly, is a validation for your current party preference. However, it appears that you have forgotten the third side...the infallible and authentic side ...your Guru Maharaj, and his statements on this issue, which cannot be taken lightly or discarded. Here is one such sample:

Conversations with Srila Prabhupada volume 36, page 378.

Tamal Krsna: This seems like suicide Srila Prabhupada, this program. It seems to some of us like it’s suicidal.

Prabhupada: And this is also suicidal.

Tamal Krsna: Hm. Prabhupada said, "And this is also suicidal.” Now you have to choose which suicide..

Prabhupada: The Ravana will kill and the Ram will kill. Better to be killed by Rama. Eh? That Marica-if he does not go to mislead Sita, he'll be killed by Ravana; and if he goes to be killed by Ram, it is better.

Clearly we hear Prabhupada say on Nov 10, 1977, that his caretakers are Ravanas who will kill him. This is after the Kaviraja, Bhakticaru Swami and Tamal Krsna Goswami, confirm that your Guru thought he was being poisoned. So from the lips of His Divine Grace we have the poisoning statements (confirmed by perceptive witnesses), and then we hear him describe his caretakers as Ravanas. What else do you want him to say? It was never his duty to deal with poisoners, nor do you have the time or inclination...but it must be done by someone... and every devotee should, at least, desire clarification via an unbiased, official investigation. Whether your latest convictions comply or not, it is the right to justice afforded to all mankind. To advocate that 'God will judge at the time of death', is not enough to dismantle the justice system (God forbid!), or dispense with vedic injunction. There are two more points in your post, prompting address. If you can spare the time to correct/explain, we will be very grateful. Firstly, you write- 'At the time I was friendly with some who were launching a new investigation. I was not satisfied by the non conclusions of Balavantas report, so I voiced support.'

Okay, the two reasons given for your involvement seem plausable. But again, when we focus on the paradigm shift: Balavanta's report is still incomplete, so we can safely assume that this has in no way caused your reversal. The other reason given for your involvement is- At the time I was friendly with some....., tells us your reason for involvement in this important issue was due to influence, and not much else. This fact is further confirmed when we read in progression- I have distanced myself from the investigation and investigators. Even though it is now understood that your involvement was due only to influence, you did present some moving words and philosophical rationale in support of an investigation. So what is the philosophical basis for your about turn? Sastra recommends certain specific action under these circumstances. What is your reason for distancing yourself from the appropriate action as given in Sastra, and instead, without establishing the truth one way or another, risk involvement with suspects (and their henchmen) who were labelled "Ravanas" by your Guru Maharaj?

The second point lies in this statement made in your recent posting- "There were rumors that Srila Bhaktisiddhanta was poisoned. Did Srila Prabhupada barely mention this? No, he focused like a laser on the mission his spiritual master gave him." What do you mean by rumours? Why are you reducing the direct revelations of your Guru to a "rumour"? Please check page 359 Vol.36 of the Conversation series, you will find that Srila Prabhupada confirmed- his Guru Maharaja was poisoned. And, what exactly do you mean by 'barely mention'? The fact is already well known throughout the ISKCON Society. It is documented in the BBT publication- Conversations with Srila Prabhupada Vol. 36, 359p, it can be heard on tape (T-44/B), Tamala Krishna Goswami has recorded it in his memoirs- 'TKG's Diary' 336p. Furthermore, Prabhupada spoke openly about it on several occasions. He made many references to the criminal element in his spiritual family and the ruination they had brought to the preaching mission of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta . He warned his disciples to keep away from his god brothers because of it. He himself left the association of these god brothers and their institution. What more would you have him do?

The other half of the statement is only half true when viewed in a holistic context. Because, although Srila Prabhupada 'focused like a laser on the mission of his spiritual master', he first walked away from his godbrothers whom he felt were offenders (guilty of disobeying/ poisoning/murdering his Guru Maharaj?). Now, if you want to draw comparisons between yourself and His Divine Grace, or follow in his footsteps, you had better tell it walking because the atrocities of your confederacy, and its ill repute, far exceeds that of the Gaudiya Matha at any time.

Your Servant Raja Guhyam Das

First of all, for many years Amburish has been a sort of compromised "goody two shoes" emissary -- for the corrupt GBC's neo-nazi violent homosexual pedophile guru empire. He has certainly never joined us in making public protests against the banning, beating, molesting and murder regime under the GBC regime. He has not made protests of substance -- that we ever heard of at least. Worse, according to reports Amburish has been "funding" some of the most corrupt, vile, violent and downright macabre "guru" regimes like "the Mayapura program" (i.e. Bhavananda's/ Jayapataka's zone). According to reports the child molesting infrastructure molested hundreds of children there, and leaders during that era are still "managing" EVEN today (2004). Other reports from folks like (former Bhavananda associate) Krtakarma allege that Amburish was "hanging out" with (homosexual pedophile "guru") Bhavananda during his worst periods of excess in the 1980s. And according to this report, they were "living opulent lifestyles" while the molesting, starving, beating, and general mistreatment of children was going on -- left, right and center all over ISKCON's schools. According to Krtakarma both Bhavananda and Amburish flew around to various cities where they would "party" together in the downtown areas of various cities. PADA would like this matter to be investigated fully and we would appreciate any further reports.

The Kritakarma report further says that Amburish and Bhavananda would fly somewhere, stay at expensive hotels, buy expensive clothes, then they would toss out their expensive luggage, full of nice clothes. Then they would buy all new luggage and clothes at their next "jet set guru" stop, "spending money like water" -- while the children were being starved. And when I asked, Krtakarma said further that, as far as he knew, they would hang out in "homosexual areas" of the towns they visited. Ahem. Of course, again we would like to have this story further verified. In any case, it does seem quite odd that Amburish has been a big supporter of the homosexual pedophile guru/ Bhavananda/ Mayapura project. And this "special zone" has certainly been a haven for Bhavananda, and thus the agenda of homosexuals, pedophiles, and violent goondas who protect that process. It is also a little strange that the "bias of nepotism" in Mayapura seems to be that homosexuals, molesters, violent criminals, thugs, deviants et al., -- they seem to obtain posts of authority, and power, and worship, and sort of rise to the top as the "cream-puff" devotees there, ahem. And then they are protected while the "Prabhupadanuga devotees" are violently chased away and so on. Of course even "reformer" folks like Adridharana have never explained why he backed, financed and supported the Mayapura system for such a long time? Nor have these folks even apologized to the children for their supporting it, and so on. The "good ole boys" club? This also begs many questions: is Amburish a sort of "like minded" vampire as the gurus he supports? Why is there still a molester infrastructure in Mayapura and Amburish has not withdrawn support for that regime to eliminate this problem, many years ago? What specific and PUBLIC steps has Amburish taken to remedy these problems? Why does Amburish always seem to be in the good graces with the molester guru empire leaders while he sort of shuns us "dissenters," like some of his other "holier than thou," same ilk "goody two shoes" pals? And in short, why has Amburish never sued the GBC leaders for criminal fraud, criminal neglect of children, and so on and so forth, instead of padding their programs with money, which helps them stay in power legally and -- get away with their crimes?

In any event, Amburish now says it is "disingenuous" for some folks like VNN to reprint his recent letter -- where he supports the poison case (since people like him have no backbone and they never take a stand on any issue). Now he is retracting his support? Perhaps Mayapura leader "Jayapataka" had a good "talk" with him, and so Amburish is recanting his views due to GBC's arm twisting? Jayapataka's "whispers" are, by the way, found on the poison tape. So if Amburish is funding Jayapataka's projects, well then what? What is "disingenuous" is that Amburish never seems to be able to tell us his simple idea of what is: right v.s. wrong? And why has he supported the GBC's Mafia and their "guru" regime of: embezzling ISKCON funds, death threats, child molesting, money laundering, fraud, drug trafficking, gambling, labor racketeering, extortion, beatings, women abuse, maybe prostitution, and of course -- gangland killings -- ad infinitum. And why is Amburish an apparent card carrying Mafia "omerto" "code of silence" protector of that regime? And now he wants to remain silent and/or withdraw support for another investigation? This seems to be a trend all along since 1978 with ISKCON's "goody two shoes" clique, they do not support the investigation of criminal wrong-doings, just as the Narayana Maharaja folks recently wrote to tell us that they are cozy, snuggly, heartwarming, loving repartee, and no small amount of licking the jackboots of, the molester/ poison giving anti-Christ project. Yet, there is also some very good news: it is obvious that "the poison case" is applying a lot of pressure to these "goody two shoes" types, since they cannot any longer "sit on the fence" as they try to do with almost every other issue. Thus, we see they are squirming and making contradictory statements and so on.

And thus, now Amburish says he also does not want to attack the anti-Christ project of ISKCON either, in his typical "goody two shoes" retreat, mousiness, chicken-heartedness, "to know what is right and not do it" attitude. (?) The Bhagwat Gita confirms that those in the modes of ignorance do not know what is right and what is wrong, what is to be done and what is not to be done. Rudderless. Ignorant or corrupt? And so the first important question is, does Amburish still support the Mayapura regime, especially with funds, even today, knowing that the place has been a molester nest and web building base, and that the orchestrators of that are -- still in charge there as "gurus"? Why is he attacking anyone else if his own closet is full of major skeletons? Many of these "goody goody ole boys" have told PADA, "We do not want to offend anyone" --- umm, thus we must allow the banning, beating, molesting and murder of Krishna's devotees go on, because "stopping this process" is "offensive"? And now some of these "goody goody boys" want to withdraw/ impede the poison investigation?

Saving Krishna's devotees from molesting, beating and death is -- "offensive" as we have heard countless times from many of these "goody goody two shoes" boys, all the time? Talk about wrong headed-ness. And indeed we have heard this hundreds if not thousands of times. Also, the same thing from the Sridhara, Narayana, BV and BP Puri sabha, oh, stopping the GBC (butt buster pooja) is "offensive to Krishna" prabhu. (?) Yas thinks? When we tell some of our karmi friends that these goody goody people find our objecting to their child bugger pooja guru lineage is "offensive" they think we are joking. Nope. "Disingenuous" is not what they say, they say some of these "goody goody" people are freaking idyoots -- who should have helped you (and ISKCON, and the Children etc.) a LONG time ago.

Actually the molesting was going on all over the world under Bhavananda's controls and while he was the head "guru" of Mayapura, and Amburish and his goody goody ole boys club has allegedly been bank rolling that regime. And for that matter, Bhavananda is still welcome in Amburish's pet project, namely Mayapura. And some of Bhavananda's key henchmen, former teachers and leaders are still there. PADA has recently pointed out that some of these molester infrastructure leaders are not only still present in Mayapura in 2004, but that "ISKCON friendly" web sites like CHAKRA are complaining that some of these infrastructure leaders are -- still -- there, joining PADA in that protest. Amburish is implicated fully in all this because he has been one of their big PILLAR SUPPORTERS and financiers, and their regime would have thus been stunted severely -- without his avid support. That deviant regime perhaps could have been HALTED entirely, had Amburish joined us in this attempt as well. Worse, the child molester guru project has, and apparently still does, use Amburish's name to advertise that their child molester guru cult is something bona fide, to suck in more children and ruin their lives. Amburish has never made a public disclaimer against the molester guru regime and rumor is, he is still funding the Jayapataka/ Mayapura regime even TODAY. Again, had Amburish funded a PADA type effort in the 1980s all this would have been cleaned up a long time ago, and hundreds and maybe thousands of children would have been saved from being beaten, starved, molested and so on. Of course, ditto -- for thousands of other "goody goody ole boys" who de facto supported the anti-Christ guru regime and they tried to thwart our attempt to object. NOTICE, many also DO NOT make a public disclaimer against the corrupt GBC guru regime either, even nowadays.

In sum, Amburish types have been on the side of the corrupt neo-nazi GBC and their attempt to demonize the Prabhupada worshippers, and to even kill us, and he supported their regime. All of this to uphold their deviant guru program as their "service." Amburish supported the GBC's plot for world domination as the world's new "jagat gurus." And apparently, for many years he never asked how they came to the platform of being mini-tyrant "gurus," thus able to dominate by their vile process of uncivilized banning, beating and murders. So we were all somewhat relieved when Amburish recently wrote a letter in support of "the poison case," de facto admitting that the "root cause" of the GBC's rise to power, and the basis for their Third Reich of bogus gurus, was apparently some foul play against the founder of the Hare Krishna movement himself, by administering him poison. And Amburish admits in his letter that he agrees that the founder, namely A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, is complaining of being poisoned as was found on audio tape. In short, Amburish dasa wrote a nice letter agreeing with the poison case analysis of PADA, i.e. that Srila Prabhupada is INDEED making a poison complaint, and that this was and is a serious issue. No kidding.

Alas, Amburish seems to be unable to drop his grand alliance with the corrupt GBC. Now he has gone backwards, more or less saying that the poison case is some impertinent, irrelevant side issue, exactly like his gutless wonderbread co-brothers at the IRM such as Krishna Kanta Desai, number one advocate of Tamals' words on this issue. One step forward, two steps backwards, as the saying goes. Kamsa did the same sort of thing in one sense, he would kill some of Devaki's children, then he would lament his ill deeds, cry, repent and admit that this was all wrong, and he would beg forgiveness. Then a short while later, he would go back to his old odious ways. This is the "absolute truth" to some of these folks, they cannot be pinned down on any statement since they are akin to expert "waffling" politicians and quick change artists like Kamsa and similar corrupt people. "I never said that, what I really said was, ..." oh never mind! There are of course far worse cases of such waffling amongst the "goody two shoe" sector. For example, the IRM folks told us to "get the hindi investigated and verified -- and then they would accept it." Later, when we told the IRM that many Brijabasis (residents of Vrindavana) agree with our version of the hindi, then they said, this is all bunkum, because the Brijabasis have to agree with Tamal's version of the hindi? Tamal is superior to the Brijabasis to some of these goody two shoes folks? Notice, Tamal does not even speak hindi? So they say, "provide evidence and we shall agree," then we provide the evidence, and then they attack the evidence, even when it is coming from people who are residents of the Holy Dham? Of course, even many karmis and audio experts agree with the poison case anyway, just because that is what evidence suggests?

Satsvarupa is another example of the chameleon goody goody boy types, he says similar things, yes some of the GBC gurus are bad, so we need to "reform" the bad guys -- but keep them in their positions? The IRM's platform? He should just stick to his writing of Zen koans, "What is the sound of no hands clapping"? Sorry, you goody goody guys, but your "bad" gurus who need psychotropic drugs to get better, your reformed gurus, your guru poisoners -- who need to stay in posts of power in the name of a "reform," this is ALL ritvik-diculous! You have to take a stand on the issues. Many of the goody goody boys tell us, "It is all a PADA controversy, we can't get involved in the PADA controversy." What is "the controversy"? Homosexual pedophile guru lineages? Guru poisoner guru lineages? This is not a "controversy," it is wrong, bad, evil, that's it!

Amburish seems to be paralysed by the same sort of schizophrenia that attacks folks like Ranchor, Dhananjaya, Sura, Nirantara, Bahusira, Vaisesika, Haripada, and similar other "goody two shoes" devotees of this ilk. They SEEM to be able to see the problems in ISKCON, while at the same time they are reluctant to point out that "the emporer has no clothes." Of course this also happened during the Third Reich in Germany, many "intellectuals" saw that their government's regime was spinning out of control, but they could not "speak up" lest they lose their place in the society as important priests, government leaders, doctors, scholars, or whatever. So they compromised with the tryants in order to get some benefits, salary, rubber stamp official position, social standing, certificiates of glorious service and so on. Even at the time of Kamsa there were many scholars and so-called "brahminical inclined" people who went to complain to Kamsa, but they ended up being his servants since he gave them some social position as leaders and important citizens. Amburish is getting some type of "reward of recognition" from the GBC for his great service to the Third Reich of bogus gurus, so they seem to have a symbiotic relationship. Of course all this applies to persons like Sridhara/ Tripurari (Tom Beaudry)/ Narayana Maharaja who have been big rubber stampers of the homosexual pedophile guru lineage and NM's team still says the founders of child bugger pooja are their "Sripada gurus." Butt buggery, and Sripada, that is Narayana Maharaja's entire claim to fame. And Amburish is similarly bewildred, well I am doing "service," supporting that lineage? Serving what? Preaching what?

It seems: in order to get some cheap social standing (beej) they sold out to the tryants and supported the "status quo" that upholds these tyrants. Sheesh? How do these guys sleep at night? Of course, at this point Amburish could sneak off and continue his "service" of being a "dereliction of duty" devotee like many of his other "goody two shoes" pals, but no, he has to step up to the plate to de facto -- defend -- the bad guys. Again. So he is not neutral (i.e. derelict) rather he seems to favor the bad guys and he thus wants to suppress the truth and confute and confuse the poison issue. Again. Of course, meanwhile some of his other "goody two shoes" clone guys have recently joined with the IRM since they ALSO do not want to see the poison case forwarded either. So they join with those who have tried to handicap and SUPPRESS that effort, just like some of them acted like weighted millstones on the molesting issue. OK, they apparently want to give safe harbor to the criminals, even the molester pooja and poisoners of guru sabha? And they tell PADA, "we are the moderates"? Sorry guys, there is nothing "moderate" about child molester gurus, criminal gurus, guru poisoner projects etc.?

Countless newspaper articles and other studies have shown that the GBC's guru system is not good for ISKCON or its citizens. Yet folks like Amburish have apparently substantially subsidized the self-same GBC with huge amounts of money, and yet he has never offered one cent of support for Sulochana or PADA types of projects? And now he complains that the poison case is going to disturb his "service"? What is his "service"? At best, Amburish has performed "the service" of neglecting the real problems in ISKCON for 25 years. He is thus, at least, like a guy giving big bottles of Vodka to the drunken sea captain, who then puts his ship on the rocks and drowns many of his passengers. Aiding and abetting dereliction. Perhaps more accurately, he has had "the service" of spoon feeding the anti-Christ hydra snake and its vicious disciples for the past 25 years with money? His "service" is to fund people who are eating up children wholesale, or at least molesting many of them, and killing the adults who protest? He is enabling and facilitating the bad guys? And now it seems he has been spoon feeding the poison viper sabha -- that killed our guru? This is why these goody boys are "flipping out" these days, they are implicated in supporting a far worse criminal sabha than was previously imagined, guru killers.

And this mood and modus has been the de facto "service" for guys like Vaisesika, Haripada and many other "goody two shoes" types. They are all "too busy" to make susbstantial protest themselves. They cannot talk to us since they are protecting by their silence, if not spoon feeding, the multi-headed hydra of self appointed gurus which has been eating up the devotees, "a conspiracy of silence." And when PADA editor is in Los Angeles for example, NOTICE, the Vaisesika types walk past us, practically ignoring our existence, yet they can sit down and have tea and crumpets with the founder fathers of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles and "serve" them. In short, acting as a sort of shield and guard for evil doers in the name of guru is their "service." PADA is a "crack pot." Read: child molester guru projects are bona fide. In sum, many of you goody goody boys are the REAL REASON so many people were molested and some were killed, you upheld the corrupt guru regime which could not have stood for a moment without your support and/or acquiesing. YOU are the support pillars of the crack pot system! Our crime is that we report these things ... if this is crack pots, then some of you must go look in a mirror to see who compromised with it.

Yet, while some of the former goody ole boys team are now with us, the glaring and emerging problem for some of the hesitant "goody goody," squeaky clean, shiny white silk dhoti boys club members is, that the poison case identifies these "moderate" types as the servants, protectors, financers, sympathizers, supporters, conspiracy of silence defenders of: Judas and the soldiers who killed Jesus. In sum, it now seems that some of these "goody two shoes" folks have been the GBC's political, economic and religious cohorts and old guard coalition that helped the GBC, ooops, the people that murdered Prabhupada. No wonder some of them are "feeling a little reluctant" about the poison case nowadays. While perhaps it does not place full cups of Prabhupada's blood on their pearly white silk gloved hands, it certainly places some, or at least drops, since they have been greasing the wheels of the army tank system that drove over and -- (molested kids and) killed Prabhupada. No wonder then Amburish and IRM types are feeling hesitant about the poison case, it means they have been sitting and having "loving repartee" (like Narayana Maharaja team admits they have been) with the Judas and anti-Christ party of ISKCON. Now Amburish says that all of this poison talk "disturbs his service." Well yes, since his "service" has been licking the boots of Judas and feeding the multi-headed hydra snake ISKCON anti-Christ that eats up devotees for lunch. Even the so-called karmis, they always ask us, why aren't these moderates (the "goody two shoes guys") working to solve these problems ALONG with you? Why are they not protecting the defenseless? Why are the "moderates" supporting the coup d'etat of ISKCON and their fascist guru regime? Even karmis see the blood stains on the clean silk dhotis of some of these goody goody boys?

And then we have another goody goody ole boy like Krishna Kanta Desai (IRM), who has also been feeling the heat of the poison case. And so now he rants to everyone, "PADA said that Adri (IRM's leader) murdered Prabhupada"! Well for starters, that is a flat out lie. No, we never said that? NOTICE, they have to lie, distort, mis-cite and make up straw man arguments in order to "win" anything these days, like their good ole boy pal Tamal, whom Krishna Kanta Desai and his IRM are currently trying to DEFEND on the poison issue. But, notice, what did PADA really say? Fact: We DID say your IRM team covered up the poison complaint since 1977 (which protected the poisoners). And this is a FACT: your team did that. Another FACT: We did say that your IRM team sided with Tamal's team after his crimes were brought out (just like Amburish seems to be doing here?). And you did. Another FACT: The IRM refused to help us translate the hindi when we asked them to, and then they started a public brawl that -- Puranjana is an idyoot since he does not speak hindi?

Then the IRM folks like Yaduraja said the Brijabasis are also bogus since the AGREE with our hindi? I never said I could speak hindi by the way? I asked the IRM to do the translation in 1997? Of course, one gurukuli recently said, "Why is Adri's team always saying: some people are saying Adri was one of the persons who poisoned Prabhupada, which is Krishna Kanta's mantra? Do they have something to hide. Maybe they are more guilty then"? Of course, we are in very good company then, since the IRM says the Brijabasis are bogus since they agree with PADA's hindi? And Tamal is the new/old hero of some of the "goody two shoes sabha," and the IRM, and perhaps this is the version Amburish is back-pedalling towards (under pressure from the corrupt GBC core members)?

So this is the "goody goody ole boys" next problem, once you guys back track and go back to being advocates for the anti-Christ of ISKCON, you are not washing anything off your hands, rather your hands look more and more suspect, if not bloody. It is always these same bogus "goody two shoes" guys who get the ENTIRE remainder of society into trouble throughout history, by their buying themselves out to support the status quo, even when the "status quo position" is to bow down to the anti-Christ and lick his boots. Shame on you guys! Of course many people backed Kamsa, Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, Gaudiya Matha deviants, the list here is endless. And without the support of you goody goody ole boys, these tryants could not stand up for one day, the tryants would be mumbling homeless bums on the street yelling about how they are going to take over the world. These evil tyrants always need their support army, the "service" of the goody goody two shoes ole boys, to make their program work. Look at Saddam Hussein, minus his goody goody ole boys support network, he is a bum living in a cave, eating old half rotten apples.

Alas, your back track/ stumbling is too late Amburish, and IRM et al. Amburish ALREADY said that the poison case is valid. Adridharana already said, "it is alarming." So your "goody two shoes" attempt of back tracking now is making yourselves look very suspect indeed. You cannot wash Prabhupada's blood off your hands that easily by some word jugglery, it is there by your support of the killers of the pure devotee. Your denial tactics did not work to avoid the molesting problem either, and you funded the leaders of that regime, as did Adri and similar others. And now the problem is that the people you supported not only created the molesting regime, they killed the pure devotee. Thus, you can try to wash your hands like Pontius Pilate did, and for hundreds of years, even with Borax and scouring powder, but this will not work. The sooner you guys get back to supporting the poison case, the better it will be. Your non-commital, ambivalent, fence sitting days are -- over.

As one ISKCON insider said recently, "The more these people try to 'paper over' the poison case, the worse they look. And the worse the whole of ISKCON looks. It has to come out, and be cleaned up." And just like with Krishna Kanta and Adri, the more they rant, "We did not kill Prabhupada, we are not murderers," then, the more that people will say, "What the heck is this all about? These guys must have some dirt on their hands or they would not rant like this"? As Prabhupada says, "A criminal always says, 'I am not a criminal.'" Fer sure dude. Nixon also said the same thing, "I am not a crook." So Krishna Kanta Desai has become the Nixon of ISKCON and he thinks we are so foolish we are going to fall for his "tricky Dick" effort "I am not a crook." Nope, your team covered for the molesters, then for the poisoners, and you still advertise Tamal/ CHAKRA as your hero on the IRM newsletters. Amburish also, he has the blood of many kulis on his hands from his support of the molester regime, and now he says, "I am not a crook." No, you are crook number one. And now he also wants to join with his pal Krishna Kanta Desai and protect the murderers of their guru. Clean yourselves up, at least start a lawsuit to get the molester empire out of Mayapura, that is your ONLY service nowadays. That will partially cleanse you of your reaction for supporting that regime. Adri and Krishna Kanta should do the same thing since their team also supported Jayapataka, get that rat's nest, hell - hole, child bugger guru program, poison pada mess, out of Mayapura. Just stand outside the gates of Mayapura with a sign, "We demand the molester pooja guru project GET out of here NOW, and purify the Holy Dham." Do something instead of griping that you are being blamed for poisoning Prabhupada, since your team already poisoned the holy dham by supporting child molester pooja there for 20 years. Fix your own mess first, before you go to bat for Tamal again, as you are.

Yep, saying that you have to get back to your "service" of supporting Tamal's view, as Amburish and Krishna Kanta Desai are more or less attempting, has made several local gurukulis recently say, "This is the worst case of denial we have ever seen anywhere." The only good news is that -- from time to time -- someone like Amburish and his twin brother Adri come out and say, well sheesh, this poison case is terrible because it is a VALID complaint from the PURE DEVOTEE. Thus, even some of the "goody two shoes" occaisionally phone PADA and they cry that they have been implicated in supporting the evil GBC regime, and now they want to help us. And sometimes they do help us, but usually only for a few days or maybe weeks, until they go back to taking tea with Tamal's cronies. Just as -- from time to time -- Kamsa would have a breakdown and he would wash Devaki's feet with his pitiful tears, begging her forgiveness for his heinous act of killing her children. But then, Kamsa would revert, and go back to his old ways of supporting his good old boys club of malefic regime and nefarious behaviors, just like Krishna Kanta Desai and Amburish are doing by going back to their old ways of licking the jackboots of the poisonous hydra headed anti-Christ of ISKCON -- direct or de facto.

Yes, oh goody two shoes! Come down from your glorious and mighty lofty white ivory towers of glowing pearls. Give up your haughty attitudes, your high and mighty sneers, your self important snotty nosed moods, get off your pompous asses, -- your gloves have blood on them. And when we said, "Hmmm, why is the GBC making an enforced cult of butt sex pooja," then many of these goody two shoes replied, "Oh forsooth, the bad language of PADA!" In sum, their butt sex pooja project is not the evil problem. Rather, the evil problem is: that someone like PADA is exposing the link between -- the goody two shoes -- and that project. Well too bad, this did not work on the molester issue did it? And it is CERTAINLY not going to work for the poison case, oh exalted and right honorable respectable gentlemen. You are destroyed before you even start in suppressing this issue. Or worse, you are guilty of defending the culprits, as you are attempting with your magic tricks of off-putting the issue with your word jugglery sorcery, just like your off-put the beatings, molesting and murders as "controversies" before. And your attitude up till now, that you are "neither here nor there" on most of these issues, this is why Jesus says in Revelations, "There are those who are for me and those who are against, but those who are in the middle, the lukewarm, I spew them from my mouth." You gutless wonder goody goody boys have caused people to feel revulsion from time immemorial and apparently, you make people like Jesus vomit.

And when Draupadi was being insulted and no one spoke up, she spoke ominously, by your silence you are all condemned. Thus, you old Kaurava and Pharisee fossils have been around since time immemorial. Yet, NOTICE, there is a problem for you guys, the cat is ALREADY out of the bag. The genie is out of the bottle, especially on this poison issue. So, as Jesus said, you are either for him, and thus you would want justice and you are going to help the poison case, or you are against him, and you are thus supporting Tamal and the anti-Christ party like Krishna Kanta Desai is doing. Or you are trying to mix, muddy and muddle the issue like Amburish. Yet to sit and do nothing as you "moderates" do most of the time, like the Kauravas who sat and said nothing when Draupadi was being insulted, that makes you lukewarm and that means, you are spewed out. There are not too many options here, but the best option is: to help us get justice for the poison complaint. The book "Monkey On A Stick" ALREADY describes the GBC, and their followers (i.e. you goody two shoes types) as "Gutless wonders." So the whole world already knows all about your bogus self-deception of self-importance that you are "doing great service." Rather oddly, someone told me that Amburish likes to read "Stephen King" novels. Ummm, is this a good description of what happens when one "serves" the anti-Christ, one ends up in his next life as a real-life participant in some Stephen King novel's existence, as the victim? Very prophetic. thanks pd

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