HH  Bhaktimarga "Swami"  aka John Vis

A not so holy swami who suffers from serious psychological disorders


Bhaktimarga "Swami" aka John Vis

To whom it may concern,

Bhaktimarga Swami was given diksha by AC BV Swami Prabhupada in the 70s, and served in Toronto since that time.

BM Swami took sunnyasa from HH Gopal Krishna Goswami in the early 80s.
He appears to be suffering from some kind of serious psychological problems
.

In 2001 he accepted a gay disciple (I have no problems with that), but he has used this disciple as a 'personal servant' for some time, and their relationship is quite questionable.

Due to his connection with Gopal Krishna Goswami, I believe he could be part of the Iskcon gay-pedophile association. He has personal friends, one who lives in India, who have defrauded the Iskcon community of a lot of money.

His legal name is John Vis and he was born in the 50s in rural Ontario, Canada.

Your organization may want to further check into his history. He's rather dictatorial, and not in the manner of a true spiritual master - especially a sunnyasi.

TKS for helping clean up the rascals who pose as saintly gurus.

yours, sincerely
donaldsavent
26. March 2007

 

Bhakti Marga swami is part and parcel of the same regime that apparently poisoned Srila Prabhupada, created tons of apa-siddhanta literatures, orchestrated the molesting of all kinds of children, orchestrated murders, ad infinitum, how is this lineage -- pure? Or is this what Rocana considers as pure? Or is Rocana saying that the bona fide guru lineage is ... not pure? For example, Rocana claims Bhakti Marga is an initiating (parampara) guru, quite astonishing since Bhakti Marga is "voted in as guru" by the same folks who re-instate the worship of known homosexual pedophiles being worshiped as "Vishnupada." How are these odious deviants authorized to "vote in" anyone else as "a pure devotee guru." Which previous acharyas were "voted in," period? ....

Quoted from PADA Newsletter July 22, 2007 - Rocana/ Badri/ NM 7-22
reply to: pada@neteze.com

 

Bhakti Marga Swami and Rocana
PADA Newsletter July 22, 2007 - Rocana/ Badri/ NM 7-22

Rocana says that "his good friend" Bhakti Marga swami is a diksha guru. Apparently, the only "qualification" of being "the continuation of the parampara guru" nowadays is "being a good friend of Rocana." " Sure, my pals are 'as good as Krishna'!



Bhaktimarga "Swami"
aka John Vis

Any questions? If you question, then you are 'not in the tradition' of Rocana's bogus rubber stamped gurus"!

Whenever Rocana feels the sudden urge to be "friendly" to someone, that makes Rocana's pals "the sum total of the demigods," "Krishna's successors," and "the person who is capable of absorbing sins for the fallen souls." Rocana merely waves his Harry Potter magic wand and says, "presto bingo boingo," then there is "a resident of Krishna loka" standing before us. More importantly, Rocana recently found a plastic sticker at the bottom of his Corn Flakes which says, "I am the sum total of -- the sum total of -- the demigods," and then he thinks that makes him the creator of Krishna's successor diksha gurus, and Rocana eliminates Krishna from the post of adi-guru and he hijacks Krishna's position. Rocana thinks he is the creator of -- those who succeed God!

Did we forget to mention that Rocana is just a little bit arrogant to assume that he is now among "the exclusive persons" in charge of deputing gurus since the function of -- empowering gurus -- is actually the function of Krishna (God). Apparently Rocana has not noticed that his magic wand process has made a slew of deviants, criminals and pedophiles as "gurus" already. SORRY! It is not Rocana but Krishna alone who deputes and empowers gurus, not Rocana's and Bhakti Marga's "committee"! "I hereby deputize the guru," says deputy dog?

Yet who needs Krishna when we have Rocana's process of rubber stamp of his pals as "gurus" left, right and center. Rocana is simply parroting his actual boss and uber-meister leader, Mr. Badrinarayana dasa who also claims (see Badri's article below) the bogus GBC's "guru committee" makes gurus (such as Rocana's pal Bhakti Marga swami) i.e. Krishna is no longer required to have that role. And did we forget to mention that Bhakti Marga is in love with Kirtanananda's former henchmen and palanquin carriers like -- Radhanatha swami. Why is Rocana supporting this criminal guru's regime?

OK, did we forget to mention that many of us do not think that Kirtanananda's henchmen are "the sum total of the demigods" since they aided and abetted an empire full of molesting, murders and criminal mayhem. It is amazing that for people like Rocana, Krishna no longer exists as a functional deity for these people? God is no longer required to empower His gurus, Rocana and his bogus committee are doing that by their own "eternal guru shakti" (which they found at the bottom of a Cracker Jack's package) since apparently God's shakti has run out of gas. "My friends are gurus," of course those of us who are not so friendly are fried banana peels and not the next "sin absorbing Jesus" in Rocana's neighborhood. Bhakti Marga supports the process of Kirtanananda's boot lickers like Radhanatha being gurus, Rocana supports Bhakti Marga, yet no one has ever explained how "Bhakti Marga and Radhanatha's" homosexual pedophile gurus EVER became gurus in the first place, except that they had "friends" in Rocana's "guru by committee" process?

Rocana says he accepts gurus from Badri's "guru voting committee" which "empowers and authorizes gurus," whereas he says our idea to worship a bona fide pure devotee is "not in the tradition." Rocana has the same disease that Sridhara Maharaja has. Some people were Sridhara Maharaja's friends ("pet friends" chides Srila Prabhupada), so he made them into gurus. Srila Prabhupada says this is all bogus because of course: the guru is deputed by Krishna, not by Sridhara Maharaja, or Badri, or Rocana? Rocana is very humble -- because Rocana is better than God? God no longer needs to empower gurus since Rocana does. This is ritvik-diculous. No wonder Rocana has been drooling on himself and cannot explain his siddhanta for the past 30 years, since his siddhanta is the same as: Badrinarayana's, the bogus GBC's/ Sridhara et al. OK, Rocana "empowers" the guru, and not Krishna. And how did you guess, the same committee that Badri says is in control of Rocana's guru Bhakti Marga swami is the same committee that voted in Rocana's guru -- Bhakti Marga swami.

Yep, we can kick God out on the street and make our own "guru factory" as Srila Prabhupada sardonically addresses these fools, and vote in gurus, control gurus -- by the votes of deviants. Hence the first problem with Rocana is that he validates the bogus GBC's bogus guru lineage (see for example): harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/07-07/editorials1758.htm. Rocana claims that the members of the child molester guru regime like Bhakti Marga swami are initiating gurus i.e. "diksha gurus." Yet Rocana never explains how/ or when/ or why/ these people ever -- became gurus, except by the process of bogus "guru by rubber stamp"? This is the same trouble we have had with the Sridhara/ Narayana/ Tripurari/ Gaura Govinda swamis and Badrinarayana group. When did Srila Prabhupada authorize -- any -- of these folks to be gurus? Rocana never tells us -- for the past 30 years?

Bhakti Marga swami is part and parcel of the same regime that apparently poisoned Srila Prabhupada, created tons of apa-siddhanta literatures, orchestrated the molesting of all kinds of children, orchestrated murders, ad infinitum, how is this lineage -- pure? Or is this what Rocana considers as pure? Or is Rocana saying that the bona fide guru lineage is ... not pure? For example, Rocana claims Bhakti Marga is an initiating (parampara) guru, quite astonishing since Bhakti Marga is "voted in as guru" by the same folks who re-instate the worship of known homosexual pedophiles being worshiped as "Vishnupada." How are these odious deviants authorized to "vote in" anyone else as "a pure devotee guru." Which previous acharyas were "voted in," period?

Rocana is speechless and simply drools on himself with no reply. The same people Rocana's "guru" Bhakti Marga got his "guru certificate" from also "certify" known pedophiles as gurus, why does Rocana validate this system? Why doesn't Rocana know by now that pedophiles are not Vishnupada, and that the people who establish that odious process are -- not -- qualified to "vote in" -- more gurus? Why does Rocana direct or de facto validate the program of vilifying Vishnu? In short, all we have to do is pick up a corner of Rocana's carpet to find "what that smell is," and we find that he sweeps all kinds of garbage under his siddhanta carpet, including that Rocana is validating "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile guru's regime" (and / or those validated / voted in / by that regime).

Rocana, have you no idea that NO previous gurus were "voted in"? Period! And why would a bona fide guru be voted in by child molester "gurus" or members of that regime in any case? Oh, we forgot, Rocana only "follows the tradition," his own concocted tradition: the child molester messiah's regime and its component members or out cropping. Rocana's idea can be summed, only those dedicated faithful to the pedophile guru's lineage are giving diksha, Srila Prabhupada is not pure enough to do so! Swell! Rocana says that there must be "a current living guru," which is of course what the bogus GBC, Gaudiya Matha, smartas, sahajiyas and the Catholic Pope says too. And how handy is this! Rocana has some nice deviants for us to worship as our gurus! Yet Rocana never tells us where his "living guru" process was ever "ordered by Srila Prabhupada"?

Mind you, Srila Prabhupada says the opposite: that we do not want another "living guru" imbroglio like the Gaudiya Matha. Worse, Rocana has stated that Srila Prabhupada "gave no clear orders" despite we have published his clear orders countless times and sent them to Rocana. Rocana simply says that folks like Bhakti Marga are "gurus," but Rocana never explains: where was the order given for Bhakti Marga to be a guru, a successor to Krishna etc.? No. "The order" is for a Governing Body ONLY, and not living gurus. And worse, we have asked Rocana to quit saying what the GBC says (and which insults Srila Prabhupada) that our guru "gave no specific orders." And we asked Rocana to show us: what are the specific orders? And /or where is "the order" for people like Bhakti Marga to be gurus? Rocana says there are no specific orders, therefore he merely assumes that the bogus GBC's are diksha gurus? Rocana is just making up the orders ashe goes along, and he is by the way making up the wrong orders?

Worse, Rocana admits that the followers of his so-called living gurus do not hesitate to harass, vilify and insult the devotees of Srila Prabhupada, so why is Rocana encouraging a violent cult that despises the disciples of Srila Prabhupada (OK and sometimes beats and murders his disciples)? This is "the tradition"? Sorry Rocana but your "good friend" and guru pal Bhakti Marga swami has "gone along with" tons of full-fledged crimes and bogus siddhanta uttered and penned by the post-1977 ISKCON leaders. How can Bhakti Marga give diksha, "absorb the sins of his followers," when he associates with the sinful, and is voted in by the sinful? And Rocana says: Bhakti Marga's preaching is so bogus and fanatical that his own followers attack Srila Prabhupada's followers? This is the mood we want for ISKCON, a cat fight amongst competing guru franchises? And what we want is, a vicious mood that creates murders -- or -- the potential for the murders of the followers of Srila Prabhupada? Some of Bhakti Marga swami's followers have written to PADA some of the most insulting materials we ever got from anyone, and Rocana is encouraging this process? Rocana wants the disciples of Srila Prabhupada to receive veiled threats of violence? Why is Rocana encouraging sub-violent cult moods for ISKCON -- after -- it is well recorded that people get molested and murdered from Rocana's cult's previously encouraging this fanaticism?

We cover more of Rocana's failed siddhanta in the article by Badrinarayana below, where we indicate some of the big troubles with Rocana's so-called living gurus theory. If (as we say) there was only an order for a Governing Body, how is the guru subordinate to a committee? Don't expect any sane answer from Rocana anytime soon, he has no idea how to reply to any of this for the past 30 years. thanks pd