| From Brahmatirtha das to PADA You can kindly remove me from your mailing list. I find the postings irrational, illogical, unphilosophical and quite opposed to the way Srila Prabhupada would solve a problem. [PADA: Yes, that is because Brahmatirtha's GBC crew "solves problems" by villification of innocent devotees, if not banning, beating, and as we have seen, even assassinating devotees (and as we see above, even TODAY, threatening to kill vaishnavas). As we all know, and has been recorded in the Newspapers even, folks who oppose the (Brahmatirtha?) GBC "illicit sex with men, women and children" guru lineage can be kicked out of temples, harassed, beaten up, even assassinated. Indeed, on the one hand Jayapataka's folks punch people, and stick guns in their faces, even in Mayapura, the holy dham. For what crime? Not accepting Brahmatirtha's homosexual pedophile guru lineage. On the other hand, child beater gurus, child touching gurus, porno swamis, pedophile guru reinstators et al. are always welcome in their temples and/or holy dham? So, Brahmatirtha finds the idea of philosophical exchange to be very odious. He seems to prefer the GBC's "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles," using threats, harassment, violence, and even things like death threats, as the preferred style of management. Brahmatirtha's friends are folks like: 1) "Jayadvaita swami." He admits in his guru lineage the various so-called: acharyas, living members of the disciplic succession, diksha gurus, Krishna's parampara successors, padas (like Vishnupadas etc.), and in sum the "shaksat hari tvena: nikunja yuno gurus" may engage in illicit sex with men, women and maybe (no really) children. In other words, these rascals claim that Krishna's living direct (shaksad) representatives may behave with less moral standing than a lusty street dog. We also know these "living (alleged) shaksad Vishnupadas et al." may potentially engage in illicit sex with other's wives, which Srila Prabhupada says is like having sex with your own mother. So, Brahmatirtha's guru lineage engages in: illicit sex with a family's mother, father, the male and female children, and even: the "guru's" own mother, by Srila Prabhupada's calculation. And all of this, less than dog morality, is juxtaposed with pada titles, the disciplic succession, guru etc.? And militantly enforced with death threats? Even "Satan's Bible" does not say that folks who are "shaksad hari" prabhus engage as above, since they have at least some resepct. Indeed, as we have said before many times, even dogs do not engage in the foul illicit activities as above, yet Brahmatirtha's guru lineage is behaving less than even hogs and dogs? So, to juxtapose "shaksad hari" and "less than dog" is to say that God is not even as advanced as a dog? And they enforce that "realization" with jackboots? This is Brahmatirtha's lineage? They insult God and His pure devotees by juxtaposing them with the most vile activities known to man: including child molestion, death threats to vaishnavas etc., and even, the actual murder of devotees who object. Of course, these vicious smarta Pharisee jackbooters are not new. All that is new is that they have added illicit sex worse than dogs to the "pure chain of gurus from God," whereas previous smarta Pharisees were at least a little more cautious and they made some attempt to hide their degraded guru lineage ideas. Previous smarta Pharisee were not such stupid fools as to post their death threats of devotees of the Lord in public forums either. To the GBC's credit, of late, their alleged "Vishnupada" has established using condoms, on "the wife of another" (which Srila Prabhupada says is like having sex with your mother) so they are at least trying to curb spreading AIDS in their guru lineage when having sex with their own mothers. Of course, even the average karmi, even the raksasas, do not have illicit sex with men, women, children and/or their own mother, like this lineage of alleged "chain of pure devotee gurus who are Krishna's living successors" which Brahmatirtha and similar goons have been the vociferous bully boy jackbooters for? 2) "Hridayananda swami." He thinks he is the acharya of all the acharyas ("acharyapada" no less), and so even Lord Chaitanya, Madhvavacarya et al. are all his juniors and subordinates? Or what? And why does he think he is greater than God or His acharyas? Because God's acharya morality is for fools, better we have Hridayananda's! Thus, Hridayananda (with Brahmatirtha's help?) has been one of the the most vociferous advocates of "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles as God's living shaksad hari tvena successors." And Brahmatirtha is their vociferous cheerleader? Hridayananda even presided over the recoronation of the worship of a known homosexual pedophile, as "Vishnupada" no less, while children were getting molested left, right and center. That is why Brahmatirtha loves one of the most vicious jackbooters of the man-boy guru lover's association so much? Hirdayananda is also another person who has been going to college to learn mundane education, leading human society to what Srila Prabhupada called "the slaughterhouse." He was also ordered by Srila Prabhupada NOT to go to college. Hridayananda has also been "living high on the hog" while the children in his charge were being starved, beaten and raped. And that is why Brahmatirtha loves this de facto child negligent abuser and/or regime supporter? When we tried to ask Hridayananda, why he reinstated the worship of the biggest known homosexual pedophile nest builder in ISKCON, to be worshipped as his GBC's "shaksat hari Vishnupada," he very angrily replied, "I am not going to talk about Bhavananda." Yes, that is because he cannot face the truth of his support for that regime. Their GBC policy created the molestation of children, the contrived banning of thousands of devotees who protested Hridayananda's molester pada regime, and even the murder of dissidents. This is one of Brahmatirtha's favorite pals: the founder father of molester-con pooja? 3) "Hari Sauri dasa." OK, another one of the ex-biggest ex-cheerleaders for Bhavananda's homosexual pedophile molester nest building empire. And that is why Brahmatirtha loves these kinds of people, all of the kingpins of molester-con.] BT: In the name of being more Prabhupada like, your postings are quite opposed to Srila Prabhupada methods. By the way, you definition of guru is weird. If a "guru" can NEVER do a sin (such as child molestation or whatever) why have previous acharyas written books on what to do when your guru falls. [PADA: This is interesting since it shows how the GBC is STILL trying to juxtapose child molestation and "worshipped as shaksad hari" guru. Worse, it seems that Brahmatirtha is trying to say that those of us who are not card carrying members of the "North Amercican Man Boy Lover Guru's Association," are weird? Or what? No, what is "weird" is that there are homosexual pedophiles, and their cheerleaders like Hridayananda, in Brahmatirtha's "guru chain of God's pure successors." Even ordinary karmis do not commit child molestation, so this is not even found in materialists, what to speak of gurus? You guys are the weird ones? Brahmatirtha's GBC cronies even said that Kirtanananda is like "Jesus" in your "Back To Godhead," when in actual fact he was covered by the hands of 30 boys in public, and he was molesting some of them in his motorhome? You think folks like Jesus are, were or could be: homosexual pedophiles? It seems that you guys are really the modern smarta Pharisees of the man boy lover guru's succession, and that makes you very weird? And even Hridayananda supported Kirtanananda while this "covered by boys hands" spectacle was going on IN PUBLIC for all to see. Indeed, one of the pictures on the altar, when Kirtananda was being massaged by all those boys is: Hridayananda looking on lovingly at the molester heaven scenario! Srila Prabhupada never says that our acharyas fall down? Look at the list in Bhagavad Gita? How many have fallen into illicit sex with men, women and children? Zero! Moreover, Srila Prabhupada says that it is the sahajiyas, the babajis, the mayavadis, and so on, who claim that our acharyas fall down. The Nectar Of Devotion says that a bona fide acharya will never fall down, but only a person who has become acharya by his own BOGUS authority. Srila Prabhupada says that saints like Narada Muni cannot be brought to the platform of material attachment, and anyone who thinks they can fail are severe offenders. Moreover, "gurusuh narah matih, narakah sah": anyone who thinks the gurus fall down are residents of hell.] BTS: You have clearly mixed up guru and great acharya, a distinction that Srila Prabhupada clearly makes in Nectar of Devotion and other places. [PADA: Correct. The "Nectar Of Devotion" says it is the bogus cheater imitators who fall down, not the bona fide gurus. As for mixing up the titles, your best friend Hridayananda calls himself the acharya of the acharyas, acarya pada, so you are the folks who are mixing up these titles?] BT: Srila Prabhupada always called him self "founder-acharya" to make that distinction. You have now blurred that distinction - the same error made by the GBC when Srila Prabhupada departed. [PADA: Now you are saying that Vishnupadas, Acharyapadas, Tirthapadas, Gurupadas, shaksad hari prabhus, are making errors? That is not our philosophy. The guru must be free from the platform of making mistakes. If they are making mistakes, such as promoting pedophiles as God's successors, then they are not gurus or even normal moral human beings.] BT: So before you cast stones at all and criticize those engaged in service - look in the mirror. By the way you are very strict about following all of Srila Prabhupada instructions according to your post. What about the often repeated injunction not to criticize vaisnavas? Srila Prabhupada commentaries on this are repeated often and clearly. Yet, you criticize almost any devotee in ISKCON, with a leadership roll, who has any type of problem, especially sexual. When Srila Prabhupada was on the planet there were devotees in leadership who had this type problem. How did Srila Prabhupada deal with it? NEVER public ostracizement. So in the name of serving Srila Prabhupada you seem to have chosen a quite un-Prabhupada like method. Thank you for removing me from you list. Your servant, Brahmatirtha das [PADA: Oh, so criticizing homosexual pedophile pooja-ites is blaspheming vaishnavas? Or what? Oh you are an expert smarta Pharisee!] |
All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!