Iskcon Revival Movement

Movement startet by Adridharana das, Ex Iskcon Temple President of Calcutta

The IRM Iskcon Revival Movement, founded by Adridharana Dasa, Temple President ISKCON Calcutta, started out very nicely [Sep. 1999], with the noble idea to initiate a reform to counteract the deviations of Iskcon's bogus GBC Guru Leadership. Needless to say that they did not liked it and fought against him.

The good thing Adridharana did, is launching a lawsuit against the bogus GBC gurus in India for the purpose of establishing the worship of Srila Prabhupada in ISKCON.

The bad thing Adridharana did, is mis-interpreting Prabhupada's Ritvik statements and negating Srila Prabhupadas poison complaint. Because of compromising these issues Adri's IRM has degraded into the Iskcon Reform Masquerade.

The actual story for Adri distancing himself from Srila Prabhupadas poison complaint (although in reality a supporter of it) is a brokered deal with the GBC's to save himself from being investigated for bookkeeping errors, something which can be devastating in India. Just to keep his post of Templepresident, Adridharana is ready to compromise on anything.

The sad story: in the end Adri could not keep his post as Templepresident of Calcutta and was removed to the point where even a city court directed the Calcutta police to arrest former president of ISKCON's city unit, Adridharan Das, for alleged misappropriation of funds and cheating.

The best thing which came out of this whole IRM/IRG muddle is, that the Bangalore Temple in India is completely independent from Iskcon and no longer controlled by Iskcon's deviated GBC Guru Leadership. The ISKCON Bangalore Temple has become a Prabhupada Temple.

Court orders arrest of ISKCON's former city president

HindustanTimes.Com Friday, 18 March , 2005, 10:11

Kolkata: A city court on Thursday directed the police to arrest former president of ISKCON's city unit, Adridharan Das, for alleged misappropriation of funds and cheating.

The Sub-divisional Judicial Magistrate (SDJM), Alipore, directed the police to pursue the non-bailable arrest warrant, which was issued on December 9, 2002, following Adridharan's failure to comply with his assurance before the Supreme Court to surrender before the SDJM on Thursday.

Adridharan had been accused of misusing his power as president of ISKCON's Kolkata unit and was removed from the post. He then moved a petition before Calcutta High Court challenging his removal, but the court approved his removal.

However, it was alleged that Adridharan, without revealing his removal from the post, had subsequently received huge sum of money and other favours in the name of ISKCON.

Dayaram Das, who was appointed as new president of the ISKCON unit, filed a case of cheating, misappropriation of funds and forgery against Adridharan before SDJM, Alipore.

Adridharan, who then left for Bangalore, moved the district court there in August, 2002, and prayed for anticipatory bail. The court asked him to surrender before Alipore SDJM within 10 days. However, he failed to turn up before the court and an arrest warrant was issued by SDJM.

His pleas for anticipatory bail were rejected by the Alipore sessions court and then by the Calcutta High Court in November 2003. He filed a Special Leave Petition (SLP) against the order before the Supreme Court, which rejected his prayer on February 21 this year.

[PADA: The Kolkata court is absolutely correct. Adridharana dasa was misusing funds, he was getting paid a nice salary from 1977- 1997 to "manage" the ISKCON society, and instead of managing properly, the devotees under his managing scheme were being banned, beat and killed. And the children under his managing scheme were being starved, beat, molested and killed from medical neglect. All the while -- chubby ghee-soaked fellow that he is, Adri -- had sumtuous foodstuffs and lifestlye for himself. So, he clearly has "misused funds" and we think he should go to court and answer for his high crimes and misdemeanors against ISKCON and its citizens.

We think the PADA - ophiles should help the courts find him because he has acted criminally against the devotees, either criminal neglect or criminal aiding and abetting, and criminally against the founder of ISKCON by hiding his poison complaint, and then trying to suppress the poison complaint, all of which are criminal actions. Yet we have higher hopes for Madhu Pandi, who seems to be not very interested in attacking the Prabhupadanugas on a daily basis as KK and Adri are.]

DEAR PADA: I guess since they left it "open", and Vinihita and others pointed out how IRM stole from Sulochana, implicated Adridharana with poison at the time Srila Prabhupada said something about him being poisoned, showed how their "Final Order" is something written by Tamal on July9th,1977, while showing how their guys do not want to allow Srila Prabhupada to establish Varnashrama, but only "revive" the "original" Hare Krishna movement = cult word in a bad way.

In short they have been shown to be Liars, Plagerizers, Twisters of Truth, Cheaters, Cheated, with an Agenda to bring back something Bad and Dead. Associating with them is just as Prabhupada said it is..........."Poisonous" "Ravana" "Suicidal"

PADA Newsletter, May 14, 2000

Dear Puranjana Prabhu, pamho. Agtsp.

The actual story for Adri distancing himself from the poison issue is as follows:

Actually Adri was a supporter of the poison issue ever since the issue got highlighted sometimes in 1997-98. B4 until then I had never heard him discussing the issue with anyone. The ritvik issue started sometimes in ’96. He got obsessed with it. So obsessed he also gave the poison book by Nityananda to his lawyers for consideration if that can be used against the GBC or the gurus in any way.

This is the time when KK became his life & soul.

[PADA: And KK was always against pada for our exposing dirt tactics. So, the poison issue was to KK simpy another clod of dirt, nevermind that Srila Prabhupada says it is causing him distress directly. Directly. Directly. Directly. Directly.]

KD: Nothing wrong with this, of course! Then the court case happened in march’99. Then many developments took place between Cal & Mayapur (MPR). His main source of income was from Gurusaday Road property which he gave on rent for 3 lacs per day. Some days it was 3 and a half or even 4 also.

Then from MPR Dayaram (DRD) gave a complaint letter to the Fire Services Dept & also to the Calcutta Corporation. This was followed by a letter by JPS to the Corporation saying that Adri didn’t have permissions from the ISKCON Bureau which is the managerial body for ISKCON in India. A Bureau meeting was set up to be held on 20th October. Adri knew his day had come. His accounts were completely in disarray. He had some accounts but no proper accounts although during the seasons there were parties almost daily. He filed a case in the Calcutta High court pleading that the Bureau meeting not be allowed.

His request was not granted by the HC but it gave a ruling that whatever was decided in the Bureau meeting should be brought up before the HC in order to take effect. Adri went to the meeting. He had Madhu Pandit lined up for another case in the Charity Commissioner’s office. In this case they brought out the point that how the foreigners can be in Bureau & rule in India? This case is still pending & we do not know the present position of this case.

Anyway, the meeting took place on the scheduled 20th of October. All the Bureau members were present. JPS, BCS, GKG, Bhakti Swarup Damodar Swami, Sridhar Swami, Adri, Madhu Pandit, Bhima, Bhakta Rupa, Jasomatinandan, Mahaman, Kadamba Kanan Swami, Lokenath Swami, Devakinandan, Basu Ghosh, & others. Total 18 of them are Bureau members. In that meeting Adri blackmailed the gurus, specially targeting JPS. Since they brought out the point of his accountability, he also charged them with the same. Finally they reached a settlement, that no one will blaspheme anyone with charges of non-accountability.

A letter was presented in the meeting which was written by Adri to his lawyers in which he had implored his lawyers to look for a way so that the poison book by Nityananda can be used against the gurus & GBC. Again a verbal war started. Adri could not deny as the letter written & signed by him was there for proof. Anyway after the blacklash by the Bureau members Adri finally promised that he will not raise the poison issue against them. The meeting lasted for the whole day of 20th October, whole day & night of 21st October & finished on the 22nd of October just around mangal arati time.

That was the end. Ever after that Adri never went ‘against’ the GBC as far as the poison issue is concerned. Moral of the above article: Just to keep his post of TP, Adri is ready to compromise on anything.

Ys, Krishna Das (pen name)

[PADA: This letter explains the whole poison issue v. IRM in a pretty good summary. This account is from a person who has inside contacts in the Calcutta/ Mayapura scene. It details how Adri brokered a deal with other GBCs (like Jayapataka) over the poison issue in order to save himself from being investigated for bookeeping errors, something which can be devastating in India. "To save his own behind" in other words.

Another person close to Adri also said the same thing to me on the phone, that he was going ahead with the poison idea and Nityananda's book until Krishna Kanta advised against it. That is also why KK advised going to CHAKRA, because KK wanted to diffuse the poison issue and make himself the de facto "latter day saint of the reformed, reformed, reformers," and make a sort of IRM/ reform/ CHAKRA compromise to win back the whole of ISKCON. Of course, back to what? And he would be the head of this hodge podge. In sum, Adri was afraid of the GBC exposing him in his bookeeping and so he brokered a deal in order to save his hide, and KK was the handy tool to help keep this brokered deal alive with a "writer." As we all know, KK is the real writer of "Adri's" papers, something everyone complains of all along. So there was deal brokering from the get go.

It also shows how Krishna Kanta saw this weakness in Adri as his "go ahead signal" to disrupt the reform by making himself the new nyayaka logician of "the new way things are going to be run." Of course, KK said that this is what Hansadutta was going to do, be the maverick that ruined the reform. Yet KK has done ten thousand percent more damage than Hansadutta could dream of doing in destroying the reform. And now that everyone is arguing whether the words "I am being poisoned" is direct or indirect, the nyayaka is happy. He monkey wrenched the reform. Simply wonderful.

This also occured at Kurukshetra, some people took the side of Duryodhana and they could not be wedged from that, because they had brokered a deal and they were going to benefit from that. Or at least, they thought they were. So this would make KK the Duryodhana of the reform, he has fractured it better than the GBC could have ever done simply because he was not getting recognized as the next big cheeze writer he thinks he is, and worse, by stealing everyone else's writings from VVR, pada, Yasodanandana, The Betrayal and etc. KK even says he did not borrow any ideas from me, despite that he had made phone calls to me before he wrote anything where he honed his ideas. In America we have a saying, "I hope I can become as wonderful as my dog thinks I am."]

From: Pada Newsletter - 09. April 2005

IRM - another bogus group whose aims are political

by Madhudvisa das

Dear Puranjana Prabhu
Hare Krishna! Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Sankarsana is right in defeating the bogus philosophy of the IRM with quotes from Srila Prabhupada. IRM say Srila Prabhupada never intended his disciples to become diksa gurus, ever. Sankarsana has pointed out that this is incorrect and he has proved it with Prabhupada quotes. He is confusing the IRM philosophy with the philosophy of the Prabhupadanugas. We have to make this clear distinction. IRM is just another bogus group whose aims are political. They want to take over the management of ISKCON. They have misinterpreted Prabhupada's teachings to suit their own ends. Their misinterpretation may seem to be better than ISKCON's misinterpretation, however, it is equally bogus. I have said from the day I first read Krishna Kanta's "Final Order" that any organization based on Krishna Kanta's philosophy will fail. The IRM have done more damage than any other group in the pushing on of Srila Prabhupada's movement.

They have destroyed the credibility of the ritvik system by presenting misrepresentations of Prabhupada's teachings as the "ritvik" philosophy. Yes. Srila Prabhupada established a ritvik system to continue the initiations after he left his body, but at the same time he instructed his disciples to become qualified diksa gurus and when qualified he wanted them to preach and accept disciples. The order is already there. Any one of Srila Prabhupada's disciples can accept that order and become a pure unalloyed devotee of Krishna and preach and if people come to him and want to become his students he can accept them. That is diksa guru. But one has to be QUALIFIED first. We have discussed this and the other points raised in this letter in great detail in other articles.

[PADA: Correct, Srila Prabhupada says (for example on the May 28th tape) that a future guru could be made "by my order," and yet the IRM says Srila Prabhupada is forbidden from making "more orders" -- for the next 10,000 years. He is dead and gone, same as the GBC fool-osophy? Sorry, Srila Prabhupada never said he could only "give an order" -- AFTER -- 10,000 years has passed? This is mental speculation by the IRM. Srila Prabhupada neither say he would, or would not, give this "order" under any time restrictions. This has created a problem because whereas Srila Prabhupada says he can give an order to make gurus, the IRM says he is forbidden to do so unless Srila Prabhupada first gets "the order" from Krishna Kanta Desai to speak. So the IRM has confused people over the actual instructions of His Divine Grace.]

* There is no question, it is Prabhupada's mission to create at least one pure devotee of Krishna, hopefully many, who will be able to preach, accept disciples and push on this Krishna consciousness movement. Prabhupada has stated this himself many times using the analogy of the Moon and the stars. He refers to a pure devotee of Krishna as being like a Moon and mixed devotees as being like stars. He says, "What is the use of so many stars in the presence of the one Moon?" The full Moon can flood the earth with light. But the stars can not do anything. So it is Prabhupada's mission to create at least one Moon.

[PADA: Agreed, if Srila Prabhupada could have a nicely qualified, actually pure representative, that would be better than the many clowns, idyoots and ersatz Vishnupadas that have tried to pose as his representatives artificially.]

* The IRM philosophy states that all the quotes in Prabhupada's books referring to becoming a guru are only talking about becoming siksa guru and that Prabhupada never intended any of his devotees to become qualified diksa gurus at all.

[PADA: Yes, the IRM has twisted the shastra. Srila Prabhupada never said he only wanted his disciples to advance to the level of shiksha gurus, and not advance beyond that point? Where does he say that? We have challenged the IRM to produce specific quotes about this and -- there are none.]

* They believe Prabhupada had no intension whatsoever that any of his disciples would ever become like the full Moon that illuminates the dark night. Rather they want all Prabhupada's devotees to remain stars who can do nothing at all to illuminate the darkness of this Kali-yuga. So IRM are trying to frustrate Prabhupada's mission by claiming that Prabhupada did not want any of his disciples to become self-effulgent Vaisnava acaryas at all. Rather, according to the IRM, we should all remain useless mixed devotees, useless stars who can do nothing to help anyone... Like the glowworms that can show some shining power in the dark night but are completely useless during the day in the presence of the Sun.

[PADA: Well yes, but we also should be careful not under-emphasize the role of the neophytes too much, and discourage them as being "useless." If they combine together and work nicely, they can do a lot of good preaching, and be quite "useful," but only providing that they are sincerely worshipping the bona fide acharya by the system he established. For example, the followers of Lord Jesus Christ are not pure either, but they have spread his name and glories all over the planet by their working combinedly and "cooperating." Srila Prabhupada DOES in FACT order his neophyte followers to do just that, "cooperate and preach together nicely." So the neophytes can do something, by combined efforts, and Srila Prabhupada said "your love for me will be shown how you cooperate together." At the same time, it is always better to have a professor give the class lecture than a student.]

* Sankarsana has quite rightly pointed out some of the bogus aspects of the IRM philosophy and he is confusing this with the philosophy of the Prabhupadanugas. IRM followers are KrsnaKantanugas, followers of Krsna Kant, not Prabhupadanugas. We should make that very clear.

Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
Your servant Madhudvisa dasa

From: Pada Newsletter - 20. March 2005

The IRM - ritvik mis-interpretation
by Sankarshan Das Adhikari -

My Dear Vaisnavas, Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

This (IRM) ritvik philosophy is the greatest enemy of our Krishna consciousness movement. It must be thoroughly eradicated. It has seeped into the consciousness, consciously or subsconscicously, of many devotees throughout the movement. It is a poison that will kill our movement if we do not strongly defeat it. It has been very cleverly presented just like the Mayavadi misinterpretation of the Vedas. It is poisoning and misguiding thousands and thousands of people who are interested in Krishna consciousness. In the following quote we can see confirmation from Srila Prabhupada that ritvik philosophy can prevent the Krishna consciousness movement from spreading:

[PADA: Jeepers dude, we are just glad that you finally woke up and realized there is "a problem" in ISKCON --at all. Under which rock have you been hiding? Problem is, you mis-identified the problem. The "ritviks" are the only organized group that has addressed the REAL problematic issues such as: your pedohile gurus and their banning, beating, molesting and murder project, that have been going on left, right and center, while you were asleep at the switch and no one heard anything about you. Period. You are a day late and a dollar short. There are vast problems in ISKCON that have occured because people like you failed to recognize "the real problems." And you still think "the real problem" is -- that a group of us "ritvik" people have protested your banning, beating, molesting and killing guru system? Then again, some would say your "non-ritvik" gurus had poisoned Srila Prabhupada. That is "not a problem" for you either, is it? Yes, the real problem in ISKCON is that people -- protested -- your pedophile guru lineage and its odious results.]

"The word guru is equally applicable to the vartma-pradarsaka-guru, siksa-guru and diksa-guru.

[PADA: Fine, except you have not mentioned "who" is your current "living" diksha guru? Or do you even have a living diksha guru? Srila Prabhupada says that when a disciple fails to give the name of his guru, he is a mayavadi. So, you are a mayavadi since your guru -- has no name. And while "guru" may apply generally to all categories of devotees, the pure devotee/ uttama is the only one who is authorized to be recognized as the parampara member. The Church's janitor (the kanistha/ aspirant) is also teaching "the same thing" that Jesus is teaching to some extent at least. And while that is good, but that does not mean: the janitor is Jesus/ uttama? You fail to discriminate these levels or how these levels have to integrate practically within an institution.]

* Unless we accept the principle enunciated by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu (kiba vipra, kiba nyasi, sudra kene naya yei krsna-tattva-vetta, sei 'guru' haya), this Krsna consciousness movement cannot spread all over the world." >>> Ref. VedaBase => Purport to Madhya 8.128

[PADA: OK, but the kanistha/ sudra/ neophyte is still: not to be recognized "as good as Krishna" in purity? The neophyte is preaching -- up to the level of his realization -- but he has not yet attained perfected realization. This is why he is called at best a "class monitor guru," he is still a student, he is not the finished professor. You have failed to distinguish these levels of devotees, which are distinguished in all the Vedas and in particular in the writings of the Six Goswamis, they delineate the kanishta, madhyama, and uttama as distinct and separate levels. Also, the purport of this verse warns us -- not -- to initiate others (as diksha gurus)!]

* Carefully note how this defeats the ritvik notion that when Srila Prabhpuada says "Become Guru" that this means only siksa guru.

[PADA: That is not what the ritviks have said, and that is not what Madhya Lila says either. The ritviks have said that while Srila Prabhupada can order anyone to be a DIKSHA guru, he did not do that. He has only ordered managers, priests i.e. shiksha gurus. Now, if you know which specific person he has "ordered" to be the next diksha acharya, give us his name and we will check out your claim. Otherwise, this is all bluff. In short, while Srila Prabhupada CAN or MAY order someone to be a diksha guru, there is no proof that he has done so? Rather, the evidence suggests there has been a flurry of FALSE gurus instead.]

* Srila Prabhupada is clearly stating that the word guru in the kiba vipra verse applies to siksa, diksa, and vartma-pradarsaka gurus.

[PADA: We never said the verse does not apply to all types of gurus? You concocted this. We said that you have not named your alleged self-realized diksha guru, so you are bluffing when you imply that there is one uttama currently extant.]

* The riviks have made a big noise about the word "henceforward" in the July 9 letter citing the dictionary definition. However, Prabhpada's use of the word carries much more weight than the karmi dictionary.

[PADA: Well, unless you can tell us who your current uttama guru is, then we have to worship Srila Prabhupada "henceforward." You have not indicated how or where the "henceforward" has ended?]

... *For the time being while Srila Prabhupada was still physically manifest the ritvik system was functioning. And shortly after that, after his departure, the Guru Parampara system began to function.

[PADA: Oh swell, now you are saying you are a supporter of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexuals pedophiles which is the "guru parampara" that evolved "after his departure."]

* The Guru Parampara system is clearly defined by Srila Prabhupada in the following quotes. Srila Prabhupada says, "We are interested in preparing acarya." The riviks don't want to read such quotes which are an anathema (vigorous denunciation) of their bogus philosophy.

[PADA: Well you pedophile gurus were not sufficently "prepared" to be diksha gurus, were they?]

* "One who is now the disciple is the next spiritual master." >>> Ref. VedaBase => Purport to SB 2.9.43

[PADA: But this does not automatically occur just at the departure of the guru: that all of his disciples are now suddenly self-realized diksha gurus? Neither did all of the disciples of Srila Sarasvati become bona fide diksha gurus after he departed?]

* "It is better to become acarya. Because we are interested in preparing acarya, but the etiquette is, at least for the period the guru is present, one should not become acarya. Even if he is complete he should not, because the etiquette is, if somebody comes for becoming initiated, it is the duty of such person to bring that prospective candidate to his acarya."

> >>> Ref. VedaBase => Sri Caitanya-caritamrta, Adi-lila 1.13 -- Mayapur, April 6, 1975

[PADA: Where is your idea, that homosexual pedophiles became acharyas, found anywhere in any shastra?]

* Hoping this meets you fired up to drive ritvik philosophy off of the face of the earth,

Your servant, Sankarshan Das Adhikari

The End To The Ritvik Spekulation [Guru Issue]
by Urdhvaga das

Isha das: "I have always felt that Srila Prabhupada wanted those who He appointed Ritvik (as well as other qualified disciples) while he was with us to act as Guru on His departure."

Urdhvaga das: Of course Srila Prabhupada wanted his disciples to succeed him as guru. Definitely he wanted it, but, but, but, and here lies the big problem, he wanted qualified disciples, he wanted qualified gurus, not some show-bottle gurus, imitator gurus, self-appointed gurus, zonal-acarya gurus, woman-hater gurus, woman-lover gurus, homo-sex-gurus, harassing gurus, ex-communicating gurus, children-abusing gurus, murder-gurus, poison gurus, guru-killer gurus, disco gurus, cow-seller gurus, marijuana gurus, LSD gurus, gopi gurus, reformed gurus, no-mangala-arotik gurus, no-japa gurus, bunglow-sannyasi gurus, retreat gurus, Monika-varnasrama gurus, 3-regulative principles gurus, demon-crazy gurus, movie-mall-menaka gurus, 2/3 hand voted-in gurus, current-link gurus, etc, etc, etc.

Srila Prabhupada said: "First become qualified". We have nothing against any Iskcon gurus, but they first should aquire some qualification and not just imitate, they should not cheat.

Of course, a father likes to see his son to follow him. Of course a high-court judge likes to see his son to succeed him, but first the son has to qualify himself, otherwise he can not take the position of the father. If he tries without qualification to imitate the father, that means impostor, bogus, cheating.

Prabhupada: GURU CHEATING NOT EFFECTIVE (April 22.77).

: People complained against [a GBC for trying to appear as a guru]. ...You become guru, but you must be QUALIFIED FIRST of all. THEN you become. ...What is the use of producing some RASCAL GURU?
Tamala Krishna: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples, and it's clear fact that we are ALL CONDITIONED SOULS, so we CANNOT BE gurus. MAYBE someday it may be possible....
Prabhupada: Hm. [agrees]
Tamala Krishna: ...but not now.
Prabhupada: Yes. I shall produce some gurus. I shall say who is guru, 'No you become acharya. You become authorized.' I retire completely. But the training must be COMPLETE.
Tamala Krishna: The process of purification must be there. ...No rubber stamp.
Prabhupada: You can cheat, but it will not be effective. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone wanted to be guru. A small temple and "guru." What kind of guru?

Srila Prabhupada: We haven't got to manufacture. To manufacture ideas is troublesome. Why should we take the trouble? And as soon as you want to manufacture something to my...., that is DANGEROUS. ...That you are singing every day, "what our guru has said, that is our life and soul." ...As soon as this POISON will come-suppress guru and I become Brahman-everything FINISHED. Spiritual life is finished. Gaudiya Matha finished, ...VIOLATED the orders of Guru Maharaja.

...And as soon as you manufacture, fall down. This manufacturing idea is very, very dangerous in spiritual life. ...Our mission is to serve bhakta visesa and live with devotees. NOT THAT YOU TAKE THE PLACE OF GURU. THAT IS NONSENSE, VERY DANGEROUS. Then everything will be spoiled. As soon as you become AMBITIOUS to TAKE THE PLACE of GURU-gurusuh nara matih. That is MATERIAL DISEASE.

Srila Prabhupada: Don't be allured by cheap disciples. Go on steadfastly to render service first. If you immediately become guru, then the service activities will be stopped; and as there are so many cheap gurus and cheap disciples, without any substantial knowledge, and manufacturing new sampradayas, and with service activities stopped, and all spiritual progress choked up. (SPL (VI 1987) 68.8.17)

Srila Prabhupada: "This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away by maya. The GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I am the initiator guru, and you should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing what I am doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this platform. This is what I want." (to Madhudvisa 4 Aug, 1975)

Srila Prabhupada: "I am the Spiritual Master of this institution, and ALL the members of the Society, they're supposed to be MY disciples. They follow the rules and regulations which I ask them to follow, and they are INITIATED BY ME spiritually" - (Srila Prabhupada Radio Interview, 12 March 1968, San Francisco)

Jahnu das:
"It is foolish beyond measure to impose the condition on Srila Prabhupada that he has to state 48 times that he wanted his disciples to become gurus. Where did Krishna Kant get that idea? Isn't it enough that Srila Prabhupada, as shown below consistently and explicitly expressed his desire for his disciples to succeed him as guru"

Dear Jahnu das,
if anything is foolish beyond measure, then it is people like yourself, who are averse to Srila Prabhupada's continued position as diksa / siksa guru. Please do not think that Srila Prabhupada is dead. Certainly those reason ill who think so. The problem with you people is that you rather like to follow self-appointed bogus gurus then to take shelter unto Srila Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada clearly says in his letter to Madhudvisa that the GBC should all be the instructor gurus whereas he will be the initiator guru.

We should not be fooled by all those 2/3 hand voted in, self-appointed bogus isKcon gurus, who like conditioned souls, are falling down after some time, and who are preaching bogus philosophy such as the "current link philosophy", in support of "voted in successor acaryas", with a "less then liberated guru thesis" and a "minimum qualification theory", for adapting their "homosexual pedophile guru lineage" of conditioned souls into the pure guru-parampara, excluding Srila Prabhupada as a non physical link. This "current link philosophy" ( is completely nonsensical in any context and is not confirmed by shastra and is a negation of Srila Prabhupada's presence in his "vani". It is simply the same old bogus philosophy which has caused so much chaos in our movement.

We should not deceive ourselves into thinking that conditioned souls are infallible gurus. We rather should take shelter with Srila Prabhupada, who is the perfect guru for all. He will never disappoint us. Srila Prabhupada is still available for anyone who is sincere in his heart, but if Prabhupad is substituted for ordinary souls posing as gurus, then one certaily will be deceived.

Srila Prabhupada's ritvik instruction, outlined in his letter of July 9, addressed to all devotees is self- explanatory and anyone can understand it whose brain substance is not contaminated by bogus philosophy preached by Iskcons false successor acaryas, self appointed faggots gurus worshiped in a homosexual paedophile guru lineage. Religious propagandist and pseudo-gurus disguised as devotees exploiting the members and assets of the society. -Demoniac Kali-yuga disciples-

"There are many jealous people in the dress of Vaishnavas in this Krishna Consciousness movement, and they should be completely neglected. A false acarya may try to override a vaishnava by a high-court decision, (2/3 hand vote) but Bhaktivinoda Thakura says that he is nothing but a disciple of Kali-yuga." (CC.Madhy., Ch.1, Text 218 / 220, purport)

"A devotee should have intelligence to know who is deviating. Surrender by your intelligence but don't surrender your intelligence." (SP to Bali Mardana, 1974)

Srila Prabhupada: "I am practically seeing that as soon as they, our students, begin to learn a little Sanskrit, they immediately feel they have become more than their guru. Then the policy is to kill their guru and become guru themselves". "As soon as he learns that Guru Maharaj is dead, now I am so advanced I can kill guru and become guru. Then he is finished." (Srila Prabhupada 1976).

"All of my disciples will take the legacy. If you want, you can also take it. Sacrifice everything. I--one--may soon pass away. But they are hundreds, and this movement will increase. It's not that I'll give an order: "Here is the next leader." Anyone who follows the previous leadership is a leader... All of my disciples are leaders, as much as they follow purely. If you want to follow, you can also lead. But you don't want to follow. Leader means one who is a first class disciple. Evam param parapraptam. One who follows is perfect." (SP BTG Vol. 13, No. 1-2)

Your's in the service of Srila Prabhupada
Urdhvaga Das

PADA Newsletter 16. April 2005

Dear PADA, Hare Krishna. PAMHO. All Glories to His Divine Grace.

We have been meaning to thank you for keeping us up to date with your NL's, but it was difficult due to moving into new premises and having problems with securing an internet connection. Anyway, thanks. Yes we have read the article by Kaw Kaw (IRM), [KK=Krishna Kanta Desai] which was published under the name of another one of his split personalities - Pyaju Raj (the onion king). Previously he would write under the name - Adridharana, but when the cops started chasing the real Adridharana, KK found himself another subjected spoof. He is more twisted than a corkscrew in a tornado. Anyway, in sympathy with his Attention Deficit Disorder, and in full knowledge that Kaw Kaw hangs onto every word in the PADA newsletter, we will tap out a short counter.

[PADA: Yes, it is true that Krishna Kanta Desai has been writing the IRM's "position papers," plagazing (ok stealing) most of his material from old PADA, Karnamrita, Rupa Vilas, Sulochana and VVR articles written in the 1980s, while not giving any credit to the original authors, and then signing these papers as "Adridharana dasa." That is because Adri had some credibility perhaps, while everyone knows that Krishna Kanta is a newbie to all this. And yes, now that Adri is in his own legal trouble, this has foiled the IRM's plan to forward Adri as their main credible spokesman. Perhaps all this is coming to a head now that Adri's legal problems are growing. In any case, this has created the impression that the IRM makes things up, falsifies signatures and documents, i.e. they are plagarizers and liars.]

* BIF: Although he side-stepped our allegations of sensational reporting to facilitate debate in his comfort zone, he did what we expected, and that is to open himself up. His article, basically, was the same old same old "Kaw Kaw is a clever crow" nonsense, with the same old "did not defeat my points" drivel. We did our best to explain things to him, it is not our fault that he has a cranium density problem. So in all honesty we will not even pretend to address any of his "points". Instead, his reduction to absurdity will make him easier understood.

[PADA: The real problem is that Krishna Kanta Desai can be defeated by any five year old child who speaks hindi, since any child knows that a poison complaint is being uttered by Srila Prabhupada. Kaw Kaw Desai keeps saying "there is no proof," while all other hindi speakers, including those only five years old, say "there is proof." So, Kaw Kaw is "not accepting proof," that is another thing. Worse (for the IRM), many more people are accepting, and as the IRM lumbers along like a tortise in a stupor more and more folks move on board with the issue. Naturally, this makes people think some of the IRM bosses are either fools or GBC spies/ plants and so on.]

* BIF: First, Kaw Kaw gives us two reasons why a professional investigation into Srila Prabhupada's poisoning should not be undertaken. Just see: 1) At best remove less than a handful of Gurus from their positions (those allegedly involved as accessories to the crime, with the chief suspect Tamal Krishna Goswami having already died), leaving the vast majority to carry on their unauthorized practices.

[PADA: Yes, Jesus was crucified, but why acknowlege that? This will only implicate Judas and Pontius Pilate, yet how will that enhance the position of the IRM leaders? Better that we re-write history, and make pretend no poisoning happened. Thanks Saksi ji, yes this is the root issue, the IRM has no concern for the poisoning of the pure devotee, unless they can benefit by getting some political mileage out of it. This is what they told us right out of the box, "The IRM cannot endorse the poison issue for political reasons." The pure devotee is not important, politics is important.]

2) Be proven at the risk of disturbing Srila Prabhupada's Samadhi (sacred burial place) to carry out an autopsy. An act most of his disciples would find completely unacceptable.

[PADA: Yes, because the IRM is downplaying the evidence PADA and BIF are forwarding, the IRM are the ones trying to force an exhumation, as many folks pointed out. The IRM is the exact party demanding "further proof" i.e. the IRM is the exact party de facto demanding an exhumation.]

* In the first point we see- Kaw Kaw believes that exposing Srila Prabhupada's murderers would only be justified if it facilitated a coup. He shows no love for His Divine Grace, nor the slightest affinity for truth or justice. To him, Srila Prabhupada's Society is nothing more than a political arena in which his miserable existence could score some brownies. In the second point we immediately recognise the sensationalism with which this hack promotes his distortions. Just like his GBC bosses, Kaw Kaw persists with the paradox of "no evidence" but attempts to thwart the investigation with the old GBC scare-mongering - "they may exhume." Where do these clowns get the idea that the Indian judiciary, or any judiciary for that matter, whimsically allocates government funds for such purposes? Is it any wonder that the IRM has gone RIP? An exhumation is not the prerogative of claimants, it is ordered by the judiciary based on evidence which demands conclusion.

[PADA: And it is the IRM whom are the ones demanding further evidence, i.e. the IRM wants to force an exhumation.]

* Secondly, had the GBC in 1977 carried out desiderata, we would never have reached this juncture.

[PADA: Yep, and had Adridharana dasa notified all of us about the poison complaint in 1977, almost none of the GBC's crimes could have occured because the rank and file devotees would have become suspect of their whole guru appointment. And "the poison case" would have been investigated close to the time of the crime, with much more viable and readily available evidences. Adridharana is one of the main persons who thwarted things to the point where he now de facto says, "Well, why are we not exhuming, since I hid the whole thing for so long"? He hides the evidence, and then he says, "Well, you may have to search further since I hid the whole thing for so long, and would have hid it forever if I could have got away with that," and he is PROUD he messed the whole case up from square one!]

* Thirdly, had the GBC subsequently accepted onus (it is their responsibility, really) the plaintiffs would not be exposed, as they are to time, expense, and cult psychosis. Fourthly, the liability of exhumation may never arise unless evidence is solid, and where suspects persist in denial.

[PADA: Umm, you mean like Adridharana, who is persisting in denial despite he origianlly said that there was a poison complaint and he was alarmed by it?]

* In any case, a government investigation should be carried out to establish the truth. Truth is above all else. So we will say to the crow what we have said to his handlers - Albeit your chicanery may excite party-liners into seeing fault where there is none i.e., it is an offence perpetrated by the plaintiffs; the laws of God and mammon are more holistic and all-encompassing than the law of carrion crow.

[PADA: Exactly, we have asked both the GBC and Adridharana and his IRM to help us pursue this case through the proper channels, and notice, they refuse to help, since they do not want the truth to come out.]

* In the quest for clarification, we need to perch Kaw Kaw on one tiring lie: why does he persistently claim that BIF has directly accused certain members of the GBC of poisoning Srila Prabhupada? We have requested him to show us where we have done this, instead he again stated in a recent IRM newsletter - ".... BIF launching an endless campaign that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned by certain members of the GBC....". Only a bird-brain would believe that BIF will expose members to litigation. Anyone can see that our reports are generously peppered with words like "alleged" and "suspect". And these suspicions, understandably, are placed among those who were there at the time and profited by the tragedy.

[PADA: Unfortunately, one of the main group of people who profited from the tragedy were the elites, ok people like the IRM's Adridharana dasa, who became the darling of the GBC as one of their biggest leaders from 1977 - 1997. As a result of Adri being in the room at the time of the poisoning, and his failure to report and/or take action upon hearing the poison complaint, he has implicated -- himself. Nevermind that, Adridharana is implicated in countless crimes that went on from 1977 - 1997 when he was the biggest henchman for one of the worst criminals, Jayapataka swami.]

* Further, our reasons for suspicion have been clearly referenced. Besides, as far as we know, Bhavananda is not a GBC member, nor is Bhakti Caru, nor was Tamal prior to his death, nor is Satadhanya. The only GBC member mentioned among our suspects is Jayapataka, who we believe to be Kaw Kaw's handler, and one of the reasons for Kaw Kaw's convolutions. Our bone with the GBC is that considering the evidence presented in professional conclusions, they have not accepted onus. The BIF mission is to initiate an investigation to establish the truth. Whether we are right or wrong in our suspicions, it is yet to be decided. However, unlike the IRM, who were legally exterminated by the GBC but continue to moan like ghosts from a grave, BIF will feel great relief if proved wrong.

[PADA: Again, the problem here is that due to the malefic behaviors of the GBC, including molesting, banning, beating and murdering the devotees of Srila Prabhupada, many now suspect that they would have ill-treated the father (Srila Prabhupada) the same way they ill-treated his children, and thus many folks accept that a poisoning of Srila Prabhupada would perfectly conform to all their other subsequent post-1977 actions. "It (the poison complaint) makes sense," is the comment we hear repeated all the time.]

* Just another point, or enigma if you like, before dispelling the crow and his IRM ghost: In his latest caw on the IRM newsletter we are told in reply to our disclosure that Kaw Kaw never goes to worship Sri Sri Radha Krishnachandra, Bangalore- "Of course the fact that KK lives nowhere near a temple is not mentioned by BIF." This is indeed a startling revelation from someone living in India, where temples are everywhere. But the most enigmatic twist in this statement is that the crow designates Bangalore Mandir as the IRM "Head Quarters," yet the IRM 'top brass' does not go there. We find it very difficult to understand how Madhu Pandit Prabhu, who is one of the most dedicated disciples of Srila Prabhupada on the planet today, and the architect of elaborate worship to Sri Sri Radha Krishnachandra, can allow the Temple and Deities to be used in this way. Furthermore, when we read in the latest IRM newsletter that Adridharana Das is still an active member of the IRM: "...and if all that were not enough, for good measure throws in an attack on Adridharana Das too (another member of the IRM)!" we must ask Madhu Pandit Prabhu why he chooses to associate his seva, the reputation of Sri Sri Radha Krishnachandra, and his own reputation, with lying sensationalists and fugitives from the law?

[PADA: Yep, if Krishna Kanta lives near the temple, and almost never attends, that is what most of the GBC's gurus are doing? Sometimes they might show up for some show bottle performance, just like KK does. And if Adri is wanted by the police, and he is being hidden as a fugitive from justice by Madhu Pandit, then this implicates Madhu Pandit and the whole Bangalore project.]

PADA Newsletter 16. April 2005

[PADA COMMENT: At present the IRM (Bangalore) and the GBC are still at loggerheads in the courts of India. Apparently, every time they go to court it costs the Bangalore/ IRM devotees US $15,000 dollars. So this is getting to be a very expensive endeavor. And we told the IRM way back in 1997 that this is EXACTLY what would happen, if they did not bring forward a clear criminal case against the GBC. Instead, the IRM opted for their muddled-up mish-mash of, what would especially be the case in India, an arcane succession argument. This is what every other bhoghi yogi matha and temple in India is "in court" over already, including the Gaudiya Matha. In fact, a Russian devotee just wrote to tell us that the IRM strategy is on par with the Gaudiya Matha. Moreover, this Russian devotee says that the GBC will simply bribe the courts and win no matter what, if things are kept on these technical lawsuit levels.

Sorry, you have to come out and use a real strong criminal case argument, not some complex discussion over ritvik acharyas vs. diksha acharyas, which is pretty much incomprehensible for the courts, and is a topic that is not even allowed into courts in the USA for the same reasons. It is too theologically technical for the average court system. This would be like the Protestants suing the Catholics over their Popes? Thus, even Srila Prabhupada said that the Gaudiya Matha lawsuits are a waste of time and money. Had PADA been in the IRM's seat in India however, we would have smashed the GBC years ago by hiring a few people for a few rupees a day to stand in front of their temples with placards "Srila Prabhupada said he was poisoned, herein lives one of the people who was whispering about poisoning him." That would take this case off into the stratosphere of another level altogether, a level the GBC could not win. But the IRM does not want to win. The IRM enjoys their endless ping pong Gaudiya Matha styled cases, apparently, ... so that the GBC can continue. They have never been serious about "taking on" the GBC and so they are still using kid gloves on the situation. Even from our weaker position we are at least attempting the stronger case argument ... as Srila Prabhupada says, shoot for the rhinocerous, if you win that is good, and if you loose, no one holds that against you.

This is sort of a tragic in that IRM chief Adridharana was once serving Krishna and His Divine Angel Srila Prabhupada, when he got ensnared/ diverted in serving the Satan-pada Tamal party instead for 20 years. And he became the molester beej guru's shameless protectionist and public image consultant. Of course, since there are references to Adri "collecting medicines" for Srila Prabhupada in 1977 (in the archives), some say he was implicated in Satan-pada's web earlier on. In sum, all this implicated Adri in countless crimes against devotees of God. Then he seemed to have an epiphany in that he was going to reform himself, and work with us, but he could not quite get out of the clutches of his evil mentors. And so he insisted that PADA stop all publication in 1997, so that he could re-enthrone his old Satanic masters on his "new seat of reform" and play his old GBC cadre card: "All we need to do is place a Pope hat on Al Capone, and this will solve everything."

Probably NOT! Again, their ideas muddled everything, and confused even their own devotees so much so, that some Bangalore devotees formerly dear to Madhu Pandit signed court papers in favor of the GBC, and have testified against him in court. That is because a lot of devotees, even more refined Bangalore devotees, cannot comprehend the more technical succession debate, but most folks can immediately understand the implication of a criminal takeover conspiracy. Of course, since the IRM also says that the July 9th letter contains "a direct quote" that is applies for 10,000 years (they lied), they tried to discredit the whole ritvik argument as well ... to the benefit of the GBC. Everyone asks, "Where does Srila Prabhupada say he has rescinded his statements that he could 'on my order' have a guru or pure devotee in the future, as the IRM says he did"? He never said this, ever, this is all IRM speculation and addition to the words of the pure devotee, and over-riding his DIRECT statements. So they have created more problems and confuted the ritvik argument here as well. Tamal ruined ISKCON from inside, the IRM leaders like KK ruined it from outside.

Unfortunately, Adridharana demanded that we halt all our progress -- just as -- we had launched the poison case. And so this became a sort of epic battle, PADA and the poison case v. the perps and the cover-up for the perps (the IRM). The "poison case" is something like PADA's being a new mother, of a five hundred pound newborn baby gorilla. On the one hand, the baby could have died waiting 20 years to be born. On the other hand, the mother of delivering the case could have certainly died forcing out such an enormous and intensely emotional package into the world. Yet as it turns out, the baby became a strong issue with its own legs and momentum, and the parent, PADA, albeit somewhat exhausted from the delivery process, survived quite happy and healthy as well. A miracle. Now the IRM wants to attack our newborn baby issue and they think we are not going to counter their attack? This is most foolish.

So, Adridharana took the wrong side. He went to bat for the Kauravas. Now suppose Adridharana had taken our advice and helped us launch the poison case? Well, nobody would have ever cared one fig about his "misuse of funds" issue, this issue would not have even appeared on the horizon. The whole focus would have gone onto the poison case and made all else seem insignificant. Now Adri will have to reap the results of his thwarting Srila Prabhupada's words on so many levels. By his off putting the issue of Srila Prabhupada, the IRM has made itself the focus of so many issues and questions. And thus: The unclean works of some of their leaders for 20 years as GBC henchman and pillars of the child molester empire are being remembered; As well as Adri's "collecting medicines" during the time of the poison complaint; As well as Krishna's Kanta's plagarizing most of his writings ad infinitum, just like Romaharsana Suta's past was recalled once he began to deviate. And as such, Romaharsana Suta was killed by Lord Balarama for trying to imitate a post he was not qualified for. So all of this is a great lesson for all of us. ys pd]

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