The reason "Mayesvara types" are of interest is
that they are the self-appointed "moderates" that we have had to contend
with all along since 1977. We have heard their "let us not criticize"
arguments for the past 20 years, and frankly they are the prime culprits
in, de facto, if not directly, supporting the GBC's violent, murderous,
child molester guru cult. Some of the members of this group merely silently
acquiesce, while some of them are vocal supporters.

In other words, on their "pearly white pure gloves" many of these
"apologists" have the karma of the pain of many of molested children, the
blood of dissidents, the blood of many cows that were (still are?) sent to
slaughter, and so on, all of which took place while they were cheerleading
the orchestrators of these heinous crimes. Meanwhile, Mayesvara's pal
Nirantara just brought himself a brand new Toyota four wheel drive SUV it
seems? But there is no money to feed the cows, so send them to be
slaughtered? And all along, while all of the brothers and sisters were
being banned, beaten, threatened with death, and assassinated, these
apologists were going around saying: "Oh, we should not criticize (the
Gestapo jackbooters), they are my saints."

And worse, these self-certified "apologists" often support bringing in even
worse criminals to higher acharya posts, such as the pedophile
Kirtanananda's palanquin carrier, and dissident murderer glorifier (he even
went to jail to glorify a convicted killer of Vaishnavas), Umapati swami,
as their next wave of gurus, even worse than the first wave. Endorsers of
pedophile gurus and the murder of Vaishnavas are our next wave of saints?

Mayesvara is good pals with pedophile guru reinstator Hridayananda, who
also placed the names of two homosexual pedophiles, as acharyas, in his
corrupted Srimad Bhagavatam. Mayesvara is also good friends with the LA
temple managers, who will not sign a paper that homosexual pedophiles are
not in our guru lineage. Mayesvara is also good friends with Nirantara, who
says that the gurus in his lineage are having homosex in the holy dham (and
sex with children there?). Mayesvara is also a de facto supporter of
Jayadvaita, whose gurus are also having illicit sex with children, and so
on and so forth.

Thus, the molestation of children, as well as the excommunicating, beating
and murder of devotees, could not have ever gone on to the extent it has
without these "theological supporters and apologists." Of interest is that
Mayesvara lives in a small town two hours away from the temple where he
works as a Government consultant, and he is not under the authority of any
GBC guru that we know of? Meanwhile, an elderly lady was just tossed out of
a temple because, she says, "she is too old to do a lot of service." When
the cows get old, slit their throats? And Mayesvara supports these folks?
In sum, Mayesvara has got his own material security set up for himself, and
from that position he pontificates to those who are dependent on the tender
mercies of the GBC, much to their peril. And so, on to Mayesvara dasa's
latest paper:]

1999 VNN EDITORIAL May 1, 1999

Modification Crazy!
BY MAYESVARA DASA  (MD)

MD: The fact is that there have been many rebuttals to the suggestion that
Srila Prabhupad ordered a RtVik system.

[PADA: "Ritvik system" means: to worship the pure devotee, which is the
conclusion of all shastra. Why does Mayesvara object to this proposal? That
is the only conclusion found in shastra. Whereas Mayesvara has supported
people who say we should worship homosexual pedophiles as: pure devotees,
de facto messiahs, Vishnupadas, etc.? Thus, Mayesvara styled programs have
helped spawn the feeding frenzy of molestation in ISKCON.]

MD: Most devotees have had the futile experience of trying to explain
Krishna Consciousness to a "Born Again Christian."

[PADA: So why does the GBC have a Papal, Vatican styled guru voting system?]

MD: What is missing is the fact that sometimes the proper response is a
simple prayer for better understanding and both parties then agree to go
their own ways.

[PADA: Very good point. Let the homosexual pedophile lineage quit
misrepresenting ISKCON and go elsewhere. Sincere book distributors tell us
they can hardly preach nowadays due to the evil background of publicity
from the GBC.]

MD: In extreme situations advanced souls simply do not speak if the
audience is too hostile or not receptive to what they have to say. Those
who are obsessed with demanding others to respond to their ill founded or
absurd questions don’t seem to understand this principle.

[PADA: Excellent point. The GBC has gurus who are are appointed, zonal,
voted in, excommunicated, homosexuals, pedophiles, demons (GBC reports said
gurus may become demons), and so on ad infinitum. This is all absurd,
although they are obsessed with forcing others to accept their arguments.]

MD: But there does come a point where the only wise response to such a
confrontational antagonist is to wish them the best and simply depart their
audience. "One Who Knows Has No Need To Shout."(3) Such a person is
perfectly content to walk away from a bad situations because they are
unconcerned about the ways others may interpret an apparent defeat.

[PADA: Another good point. If the GBC cannot reply to the thousands of
bogus things they have put forward over the years, then they should leave
the field. Agreed.]

MD: The Example Set By Srila Prabhupada
In regards to the Guru/RtVik conflict Srila Prabhupada set the perfect
example for how it should be resolved by the way he dealt with the Gaudia
Matha.

[PADA: Another good point. Srila Prabhupada told us to drive out the
Gaudiya Matha influences from ISKCON. This is our duty.]

MD: He approached his God brothers several times and petitioned them to
join together and assist in his effort to take Krishna Consciousness to the
west, but he got no support. After being rejected several times he simply
went away and set out to do what he believed was the proper thing. He did
not write a treatise about everything his God brothers were doing wrong.

[PADA: True, Srila Prabhupada wrote 70 books, travelled all over the globe
preaching ceaselessly, and he started a hundred temples. No one else has
been able to do this because we, as neophytes, can only defend our Church,
we can not build a whole new Church. Nor has Mayesvara or his guru pals
made a new Church either? They have no potency to do what Srila Prabhupada
did. For example, Ramesvara, he is a businessman landlord, not the founder
of his own Church?]

MD: Nor did he stand outside of the Sarasvati Matha petitioning pilgrims to
force his God brothers to cooperate with his understanding of what Srila
Bhaktisidhanta asked them to do.

[PADA: That was not his role. The acharya does not need to reform a corrupt
Church, he is a walking Church himself. An acharya is powerful enough to
build hundreds of Churches, whereas the Church plumber can only fix a
broken pipe in his Church. There is a difference... ]

MD: He did not become obsessed with convincing the rest of the world that
his vision for the Gaudia Matha was the only valid thing for them to follow.

[PADA: But he did show us and the Gaudiya Matha what is the correct way to
preach.]

MD: Nor did He get trapped into the illusion that the temple buildings, the
marble on the floor, and the land it all sat on had any significant value
that Krishna could not easily give him if He was pleased with his efforts.

[PADA: Good point. We also do not want the marbles and stones, we want the
hearts and minds. And we are getting that. Many of the buildings are empty
now anyway? We do not want a big empty Church building? We want to convince
others, and we are doing that.]

MD: Cooperation means one of two things. Either one must work through the
system that has been set up in order to reform the mistakes that have been
made, or one should go somewhere else and do something better.

[PADA: Acharyas do not "make the mistake" of voting in pedophiles as
acharyas? What are we saying here?]

MD: To stand outside the temple every weekend and throw stones in the form
of arrogant self-righteous posturing has never been the way any enlightened
person has behaved.

[PADA: Good point again. Thanks for making this very clear Mayesvara! Why
are the defenders of the homosexual pedophile regime standing outside the
temples, under the illusion that the bricks and stones are theirs, giving
ill-looks to the visiting Vaishnavas? Of course, sometimes we as Vaishnavas
have to approach these types of people, just as Lord Caitanya approached
the smartas, the Muslims, the sahajiyas, the mayavadis, various bogus
temple authorities, the kazi and so on. Lord Caitanya's followers were also
not welcome at some temples, just like we are not, since envious people had
taken over some of these temples. That these followers could not attend
these temples, or they may have criticized the small-minded managers the
way Lord Caitanya addressed the smartas, is not because they were self
righteous?]

MD: It is not the way of a Vaishnava and not the example Srila Prabhupada
set for us.

[PADA: It is not easy to start a big Church by oneself, as Srila Prabhupada
did. Mayesvara knows this very well since he can only keep a teeny program
going in Ojai, California, a two hour drive from the big city. He is simply
proposing something that he has not done himself? Nor could he do so.]

MD: His Divine Grace never said that after he departed devotees were free
to form political parties that openly defy the management body he entrusted
to lead ISKCON.

[PADA: So, why is the GBC engaging in politics to throw out so many devotees?]

MD: He was also adamant about not taking internal problems outside for
legal recourse.

[PADA: So why did Bir Krishna tell us to take the poison issue to the
police? Why did Arcit dasa tell us the same thing a few days ago?]

MD: The IRG claims that they know better than anyone else what Srila
Prabhupada wanted, yet they are the ones spearheading the very thing His
Divine Grace detested and feared the most!

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada hated bogus, if not homosexual pedophile, guru
lineages like the GBC's more than anything else. If Mayesvara has a plan
how to fix it, what is it? He never says?]

MD: GBC may have their problems but suing is clearly not the solution and
would NEVER be condoned by His Divine Grace!

[PADA: And retreating to the woods in Ojai to bask in the illusion that you
are solving the whole thing is what he wanted you to do? No, he wanted you
to stand and fight for the right idea, i.e. worship of the pure devotee,
not to defend the pedophile lineage.]

MD: We have seen Johnny Cockrin, Ralph Nadar, President Clinton and
numerous wacko’s like Jimmy Baker, Jim Jones, Marshal Applewhite, and David
Koresh bewilder people into believing very strange and tragic things.

[PADA: Yet none of these wackos has ever said that homosexual pedophiles
are God's living successors like the GBC has done? Even those you claim are
the worst wackos have some idea of civility and morality? Worse, the GBC
reinstated a known homosexual pedophile as their messiah while molestation
was rampant. The above "strange folks" are saints in comparison. Indeed,
most of us have not ever even heard of the concept of pedophile guru
messiahs, that is before the GBC came down the sewer pipe, with their
mindless cheerleaders like Mayesvara types.]

MD: It is also completely beyond comprehension how someone could
scripturally justify hatred, prejudice, and even murder, based on the
teachings of the Bible, but that is exactly what the Neo-Natzi movement is
founded on.

[PADA: Good point. The GBC has orchestrated devotees getting banned, beaten
and even murdered by distorting the teachings of Srila Prabhupada.
Jackboots preaching. Neo nazis, or pedophile guru's jackboot Pharisees?]

MD: One who has the ability to hypnotically bring others under their
control could easily misuse this talent and end up exploiting the innocent.

[PADA: Good. Describes the GBC cults exactly. While GBC hynotized people
were mindlessly mumbling, "Jaya Bhaktipada," Jane Wallace of CBS news was
wondering, "Why are these people worshipping a homosexual pedophile"
--covered with the hands of small boys? And Mayesvara's best pal,
Hridayananda, has his picture is on the altar smiling lovingly at
Kirtanananda's pedophile heaven display?]

MD: The important thing to note here is that there are only a very small
number of RtVik’s who actually spend any significant amount of time
associating closely with His Divine Grace.

[PADA: Yep, and here is where issues --such as-- the poison issue come in
to play. Those who claimed to have had "the most association" are the prime
suspects of the "sab milkar" poison clique, identified by Srila Prabhupada
himself. Similarly, those with the alleged "most association" in the
Gaudiya Matha are some of the worst deviants.]

MD: The objective person will recognize that most of Srila Prabhupada’s
senior disciples remain unconvinced of the RtVik conclusion.

[PADA: This is very nonsensical. Very few devotees still accept the self
appointed homosexual pedophile messiah's lineage at this point in time.]

MD: They don’t feel the evidence indicates that it was the intent of His
Divine Grace to reverse 12 years of extensive preaching about the
traditional parampara in the last few months of his life.

[PADA: Good point, Srila Prabhupada never intended the GBC's homosexual
pedophile guru lineage, ever. The traditional lineage is shaksat hari
tvena, not evil qualities.]

MD: The RtViks have adopted the unofficial reputation for brushing the
opinions of senior devotees aside by alleging many offensive and loathsome
things.

[PADA: Well, if our allegations are false, give us specifics? Otherwise,
the GBC are the people spreading the lies: that our allegations are false.]

MD: Some of the biggest RtVik advocates are notorious for proclaiming that
for the most part the same devotees Srila Prabhupada personally intrusted
to lead ISKCON are corrupt, selfish, insensitive, on the take and in some
cases even flat out demoniac.

[PADA: Homosexual pedophile gurus lineages are demoniac? What, they are
saintly?]

MD: ISKCON leaders are routinely criticized by RtVik supporters for either
grossly, or subconsciously, being consumed with the desire to protect their
own bank accounts, followers, position, or prestige etc.

[PADA: And the GBC report this year confirms that some of their gurus are
consumed with these types of things? Also: the GBC proposes "guru financial
accountability." That means: the ritviks were right all along, and even the
GBC is gradually admitting.]

MD: We don’t even have to turn to our Vaisnava literature to recognize how
reprehensible those who think like that are.

[PADA: Well, the GBC agrees that some of their gurus are out of control and
thus they are proposing controls themselves? If this is reprehensible, this
is again: the GBC?]

MD: Of course the IRG leaders are very quick to deny these types of
allegations for obvious embarrassing and political reasons.

[PADA: Mayesvara says we should not criticize the Vaishnavas, then he drops
the other shoe, criticizing the Vaishnavas? Hello?]

MD: They then go to great lengths to remind us of few strategically placed
pleasantries embedded in FO-Fairy-Tales as if that vindicates them for all
the ugly things that are posted on their web site.

[PADA: So, Mayesvara is admitting his guru lineage contains the "fairy"
element? Hmmm! "Fairy" is slang for homosexuals, in New York anyway? So,
Mayesvara's guru lineage has not only fairy-padas, but also "tails." Oh oh!
Fairy-padas? Nope, it is worse, fairy tail padas? Yikees pilrims!]

MD: The truth is the IRG is sailing under false colors, and it is evident
to anyone who has scratched beneath the surface of their self-righteous
highly polished but artificial moral facade.

[PADA: But your gurus are sometimes fairies chasing children's tails? So
what is your facade?]

MD: The Klu Klux Klan doesn’t have a written policy that spells out how to
burn a cross or lynch an African American yet everyone with even a little
brain in their head knows they have a historical reputation for doing that
very thing.

[PADA: And GBC gurus have a reputation for making homosexuals into gurus
and banning, beating and killing those who object.]

MD: It is a qualification of a Vaisnava that he is adosa-darsi: he never
sees others’ faults.

[PADA: So, why are you writing all of these criticisms then?]

MD: But a Vaisnava, a sober man, accepts only a man’s glories and not his
faults, for flies seek sores whereas honeybees seek honey. Haridasa Pandita
never found fault with a Vaisnava but considered only his good qualities. -
Adi 8.62

[PADA: So, let us get this straight, Mayesvara says the Prabhupada
worshippers are like the Ku Klux Klan, but he only sees their good side?
Hello!]

MD: Despite whatever bad decisions that have been made by ISKCON management
in the past, it is not logically consistent to say that because of their
personal foibles, they did not KNOW what Srila Prabhupada wanted.

[PADA: "Ex-Cathedra" from a good Catholic? The Pope is always right, even
when we catch him engaged in nonsense. Oh yummy! Mayesvara wants to
introduce the Catholic ex-cathedra principle? Where is this mentioned by
Srila Prabhupada?]

MD: Those who literally gave up everything and associated with Srila
Prabhupada for several years would obviously know better than anyone else
how to interpret the two words that constitute the only two pieces of
flimsy evidence that the RtViks can dig up to support there case.

[PADA: Your GBC's case: to establish homosexuals as messiah-like acharyas,
is not only flimsy, it is totally disgusting.]

MD: But aren’t all of us also disciples of Lord Caitanya and don’t we refer
to ourselves that way?

[PADA: You were not ordered to consider yourself a direct disciple of Lord
Caitanya? Whereas Srila Prabhupada wanted and ordered to continue being the
acharya of ISKCON with a managerial board, not an acharya board concoction.]

MD: It is not only very possible that Srila Prabhupada made this change to
distinguish between those who were trained up as members of ISKCON who
studied his books, from those Vaishnavas that were initiated in the Gaudia
Matha.

[PADA: So, why did the GBC go to the Gaudiya Matha in 1978? You are going
in circles Mayesvara! We should be distinct from the Gaudiya Matha, and
that is why the GBC went there... Hello!]

MD: With the advent of the Folio everyone now has full access to the
lectures, books, letters, and recorded conversations of His Divine Grace.

[PADA: Exactly! The letters contained very important information. Ever
wonder why Ramesvara said that Sulochana dasa would be dead meat if he
published those letters? The GBC was, and still is, suppressing
information, even at one point ALMOST ALL OF THE LETTERS. Now, ever wonder
why they actualy did kill Sulochana dasa for publishing the letters anyway?
Ever wonder why PADA also had to also publish the poison account? Another
20 year cover-up?]

MD: The elimination of eyewitness testimony is a tactic used to hide crimes
of oppressive and dictatorial governments.

[PADA: Exactly right, elimination of testimony. And that is why the GBC
kicks with jackboots on Yasodanandana, Gauri dasa pandit, and many other
eye-witnesses. And that is also why PADA published the poison account and
not the GBC. Hiding crimes.]

MD: One of the most disturbing things about the RtVIk campaign is the
nonstop flow of arrogant criticism and faultfinding intended to discredit
the testimony of these devotees.

[PADA: And the GBC is better since they ban, beat and kill with their
arrogant fault finding?]

"Even if one commits the most abominable action, if he is engaged in
devotional service he is to be considered saintly." (Bg. 9.30)

[PADA: And if we read the purport we find that this does not apply to
acharyas. Duh!]

MD: The concept of communication is crucial to our investigation and
relevant in all aspects of our life.

[PADA: And that is why the GBC de facto banned isti-gosthis, and the result
was that maybe a thousand children were molested since there was no forum
to compare notes.]

MD: Chanakya Pandit specifically advises not to give advice to a foolish
student and recommends that one should steer clear of those who are miserable.

[PADA: Yes, agreed, we should avoid many GBC gurus who are: miserable; too
sick; too tired; have too many headaches; cannot come to the phone; cannot
write responses; are taking too many pills; are on a special diet; are
having special health needs; cannot come into the sun without sunglasses;
are getting Monika massages, and so on ad infinitum.]

MD: The fact that teenagers, Psycho-Napoleons, or RtViks, sound convincing
to their peers and that "All their friends are doing it."

[PADA: Those who do NOT want to worship a homosexual pedophile lineage are
psycho-Napoleans? oh please!]

MD: This is known in as the law of association.

[PADA: And you, Mayesvara dasa, associate with the sidewalk glaring
vultures whose job it is to glare with hate at the non-homosexual pedophile
lineage devotees for the past 20 years.]

MD: All the devotees who were personally selected by His Divine Grace as
his most trusted servants became completely corrupt or incompetent the
moment he passed away.

[PADA: No, the evidence suggests they were corrupt before he passed away.]

MD: Some are even bold enough to suggest that certain individual were
corrupt prior to Srila Prabhupada’s departure!

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada is that someone who said "sab milkar."]

MD: Those who associated extensively with Srila Prabhupada received
valuable training we can all now benefit from if we are willing to do so.
That is why Vaishnava etiquette is so important. Senior devotees are there
to assist the newer devotees. That is our system.

[PADA: Which the GBC dismantled. FACT: the GBC kicked out many senior
devotees. We went to one temple in 1979 where the president was only 17
years old, and the temple looked like a ghost town! Stalin's purge? Ethnic
cleansing? Where was everyone? Mayesvara's ethnic purgers had thrown the
devotees out.]

MD: The point here is that if we are to accept the conclusion of the
FO-Sastra we are forced to reduce the law of association down to the point
where it becomes insignificant.

[PADA: Nonsense, we say you should and must associate with devotees, not
make the temples into ghost towns as the GBC does?]

MD: We have already pointed out that it is evident by their behavior that
RtViks do not respect the opinions of elder Vaishnavas,.. especially in
regards to the subject of Guru-Tatva.

[PADA: And you do not accept the opinions of many elder devotees who do
accept the ritvik conclusion. So, you are the black pot calling the other
pot black?]

MD: For example how would they deal with grand disciples who choose to
remain loyal to their spiritual master?

[PADA: So, according to Mayesvara, being voted in as a guru, simultaneously
at the recoronation of a known homosexual pedophile guru (as many GBC gurus
were in 1986 while many children are getting molested) makes one: a
spiritual master? Hello!]

MD: Would RtViks have a Zero tolerance for anyone who disagrees with their
proclamations and decrees?

[PADA: Some people in your circle certainly have zero tolerance? As soon as
we say, "Homosexual pedophiles are not EVER found in Krishna's guru
successors," some of your pervert pals throw a fit? For example, your pal
almost blew his fuses and said, "So what?" (who are you to question the
divinity of homosexual pedophile messiah lineages?) when we asked him about
the molester guru party? Yes, so what if our gurus are child butt pirates?
So what if children are getting molested? So what if we are murdering
dissdents? So what if we are getting pedophile palanquin carriers like
Umapati as our next wave of gurus? So what if our gurus are having illicit
sex with men, women and children, and thus they are not even as advanced as
dogs? And so what if the Yamadutta's dogs are going to tear us to pieces on
the way to Yama-loka for placing pedophiles in Srila Prabhupada's seat, a
crime a million times worse than eating hamburgers according to Sri
Isopanisad?]

MD: Would they start their own black lists of defectors?

[PADA: Oh, like the GBC? We are already on the non-homosexual pedophile
lineage worshipping black list already?]

MD: Why is the IRG team of Omniscient Super Managers so reluctant to tell
the rest of the world how they would handle devotees who dissent with THEIR
management decisions?

[PADA: Well, we already know how your party deals: death threats, banning,
beating and killing. Maybe you should get your own house in order first... ]

MD: Are they so preoccupied with throwing stones and finding fault with
others that they just don’t have time to answer these questions?

[PADA: Mayesvara, you are the one who has not answered squat diddley. You
have evaded 1) The original appointmnt lie issue, as well as, 2) Subsequent
molester guru issue, and 3) The poison issue, and umpteen thousand other
issues. Your best pals cannot even sign a letter than homosexual pedophiles
and their voters are not in our guru parampara? And you have not signed it
either? You are the evasive crew.]

MD: We can get an idea of just how gently the RtViks will deal with the
feelings of others by how gently they are currently dealing with the
feelings of Tamal Krishna Goswami, Jayapataka Swami and Hridayananda Goswami.

[PADA: The three identical people who presided over "voting back a known
homosexual as guru," in the holy dham no less? These are the exact people
Mayesvara cites as his beloved pals! Told ya!]

MD: Srila Prabhupada stated on numerous occasions that his mission would be
served if he could make just one pure devotee.

[PADA: And the GBC decided to make 150 of them, some of them pedophiles,
since they could not wait to follow the actual process?]

MD: "This is the influence of a pure devotee. If there is one pure devotee,
his association can create hundreds and thousands of pure devotees." -SB
9.21.18

[PADA: What kind of pure devotee wants to land in the middle of a bunch of
fools who think homosexual pedophiles are part of the parampara?]

MD: If it was so obvious what Srila Prabhupada wanted in 1977, why did it
take so many years for everyone to realize it?

[PADA: Because evidence was suppressed. It took us until 1985 just to hear
the appointment audio, and it did not match the manuscript we got in 1980
in England.]

MD: Anyone who is educated about the history of this debate knows that the
whole RtVik concept took many years to formulate.

[PADA: Again, because the appointment tape etc. were hidden. By the GBC.]

MD: In fact it didn’t even really gain any substantial credibility until
1997..

[PADA: Show that the conspiracy of sab milkar worked pretty good, at least
for awhile?]

MD: I apologize to anyone whose spiritual life may have been compromised
because of bad behavior by my God brothers. This is something ISKCON must
deal with to preserve the integrity of the organization.

[PADA: Gurus do not behave badly. "There is no such thing as a bad guru,"
Srila Prabhupada says. Mayesvara is changing all of this, however, since he
is smarter than the acharya? We think not.]

MD: Trying to repair a problem with a faulty solution will never produce
the desired result.

[PADA: And we have asked you if the GBC's homosexual pedophile lineage is
the solution, and it seems: you think it is?]

MD: But we would not be surprised by this type of rebuttal from the
FO-Pundits who we have also been known for spotting exotic long haired
Albino Tibettian Yaks grazing in the deserts of California!

[PADA: Well, that is far superior to finding gurus in your lineage in
homosexual bars.]

MD: ...Srila Prabhupada repeatedly quoted Lord Caitanya’s order for every
Vaishnava to become so serious about spiritual life that they would be
willing to become a fully empowered Spiritual Master themselves in every
sense of the word.

[PADA: So why did the GBC kick out 5,000 potential gurus? And kill a few?]

MD: That His Divine Grace stressed the principal of Vaishnava etiquette and
how Senior Devotees are responsible for leading junior devotees and how
junior devotees should respect their leadership.

[PADA: And the GBC has tossed out the senior devotees and placed 17 year
olds in as temple presidents?]

MD: Having ceased to maintain the historic mood of His Divine Grace the
RtVik would then be able to suggest that he intentionally appointed himself
as the exclusive savior of the world for the next 9,500 years.

[PADA: And why not? He brought Krishna to the West, and that could save the
world?]

MD: That Srila Prabhupada always set the right example and taught how we
should act if we disagree with the administrative principals of the GBC by
the perfect example he set in dealing with the Gaudia Matha. Yet following
his example was only temporary, specifically to be terminated on the
departure of Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada did not care about their administrative policy, he
challenged their philosophy of relativised gurus.]

MD: This includes, but is not limited to, creating political parties,
campaigning in front of the home of the Supreme Lord, and taking internal
problems to the media further slurring the name and reputation of Srila
Prabhupada.

[PADA: And if we had not gone public? We would have been assassinated by
GBC goondas by now. Gee, thanks for all of your love (to have us bumped
off). Can you at least get the goondas to use large bullets, I just hate
those .22 clonkers.]

MD: That Srila Prabhupada was very displeased when his God Brothers took
their differences into the courtroom to be settled. Yet that directive was
only temporary, specifically to be terminated on the departure of Srila
Prabhupada.

[PADA: The GBC are the folks who went to court over Hansadutta which was
only settled in 1998. Boy you have a short memory!]

MD: That His Divine Grace taught how the foundation of spiritual life is
humility manifest as courteous respect for all Vaishnavas and a willingness
to serve them without reservation. Yet that attitude was only temporary,
specifically to be terminated on the departure of Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Yep, this is why we get death threats from GBC clones. They are
being trained up to love --to kill-- the Lord's Vaishnavas. "Let us hunt
and kill the devotees," as predicted in shastra of the kali-yuga demons.]

MD: That Srila Prabhupada demonstrated how he could gracefully end a debate
when it was clear that it was no longer advantageous to continue. Yet that
type of dignity was only temporary, specifically to be terminated on the
departure of Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Well, we are picking up new people every single day. So, if it is
not in the advantage of the GBC to continue, they can quite today. Agreed.]

MD: Having ceased to honor how Srila Prabhupada handled antagonistic
situations, the RtVik now teache by example that a Vaishnavas should argue
with each other until they are sick in the face and one of the two parties
collapses to the earth in exhaustion,.. never to speak again.

[PADA: We are not sick, we are making good progress. Just now five more
people wanted on our mailing list, and in a short time 1700 people visited
our web-site. People are down-loading the poison tape, several brijbasis
recently said some GBC's poisoned Srila Prabhupada, so things are going
forward on all fronts. People are waking up. Everybody wants the poison
book, and so on and so forth.] PADA


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SITES TO CHECK OUT:

PADA Homepage -- Poison tape audio and pada newsletters

* General Board of Complaint (GBC)
* (e-mail) gbc1008@aol.com

* (french) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html
* IRG - ISKCON REFORM GROUP
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas
* (SPANISH) http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/
* Cyber gurukula
* Rocana's site
* Poison issue
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* Appointment tape fraud
* Gaura-Nitais Homepage (deutsch)
* VNN news

pada email: 
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