TRIPURARI DATES YOUNG FEMALE FOLLOWER

SWAMI DATES YOUNG FEMALE FOLLOWER

PADA Newsletter 10-Jun-99

SWAMI DATES YOUNG FEMALE FOLLOWER UPDATE

Dear friend: Concerning the Sanga subscription email: I did not request this Sanga mailer. I would not want to read the "Swami's" purports until he becomes honest and removes himself from his nearly seven year emotional/ intimate attachment and relationship with his spiritual daughter- Vrindaranya (who is more than 20 years his junior).

During several of the many years that the entire Eugene community has observed this ongoing relationship, male and female devotees have spoken to the "Swami" in regards to Vrindaranya. Each time the "Swami" defied the friendly concern for his wellbeing and reputation as a sannyasi monk. Indeed his defiant and audacious behavior was "in the face" of those community members, who on countless occasions observed the two of them on regular japa walks in the park, ice cream eating strolls through the Valley River Center in sannyasa robes, massage upstairs during the Sunday feast, car trips, international flights, rickshaw rides parading around the Dhama, and even a sleep over alone in a van at a rest stop between Seattle and Eugene.

Tripurari "Swami" then went on to purchase a travel trailer for Vrindaranya's personal living space, and a recreational vehicle four-wheel drive to pull this trailer by having a new bhaktin obtain a personal loan at a bank. (She later left) Kitchen supplies were purchased for Vrindaranya to cook exclusively and daily for the "Swami" in the adjacent home. All the while, hours are being spent together in "service" of publishing books containing the divine purports of "Swami Tripurari".

Why does this man continue to insult the intelligence of all senior members and his own disciples (many who have now left), by flaunting this illicit relationship, when anyone who understands the function and behavior of a sannyasi monk can see most obviously what he claims does not exist?? Number one: this is a form of incestual lust. Spiritual father for disciple daughter. Number two: the "Swami" soils the function of the monk ashram with his harboring and display of attachment for this woman. Number three: Many suggested he marry her and become properly situated to engage in the relationship and continue his preaching. He defies all and denies all.

Criminal conduct is extended into the authorization and habitual use of the "dead man's" credit cards. After the most unfortunate heroin overdose death of a Prabhupada initiate in Delhi- Kartika '96, the "Swami" authorized the fraudulent use of this man's credit cards- forging the dead man's signature for many purchases back in Eugene. One year after the death, there was still this usage going on. Sale of non-profit/tax exempt permits to non-members out of state for profit sales of goods. Local DA was contacted to investigate some months back. And this "Swami" audaciously behaves as though the rest of the community is dead wrong in their assessment of his behavior, demanding the utmost reverence and homage for his academic spin on the previous acaryas' writings, while nary a mention of his own Guru Maharaja's wonderful mercy upon him. A bottle of bleach is in order, eh?

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RE: TRIPURARI SWAMI - From: pada@neteze.com

22.03.99 - Dear Raghunatha dasa, thanks for your letter expressing appreciation of Tripurari swami. Unfortunately, we are not able to share your appreciation of him, since the last time we met up with Tripurari he was trying to get "voted in as guru" by the GBC. Yes, the same GBC who had already by this time brought us homosexual pedophile gurus. This was in maybe 1984, after we had already seen clearly that the GBC's "gurus" were having major problems of every type.

Tripurari swami then threatened the GBC at that time, that unless they "voted him in as an ISKCON guru," he would become a Gaudiya Matha guru, i.e. "I'm loyal to no one, except whoever gives me a guru vote, guru rubber stamp." Of course, why would anyone want to be "voted in as guru" by the same people who found and later re-coronate pedophiles as gurus? A little odd would you not agree? And Srila Prabhupada calls going to the Gaudiya Matha "prostitution," and here we find that a person was first asking ISKCON to prop him up, or he threatened he will go get propped up elsewhere i.e. "whoever pays me for services I will serve."

So, I asked Tripurari about this, saying, "Is this not a little bit like a businessman asking two different and competing companies to give him a post, and then he would be loyal to that company"? I then showed him some of the major differences between the Gaudiya Matha's ideas, and in particular Sridhara Maharaja's ideas: that acaryas go mad running after women, followers and money, and Srila Prabhupada's "gurusuh narah matih ...narakah sah." Frankly, I had never heard of this pagal baba guru idea through Srila Prabhupada?

Anyway, Tripurari was silent, and he gave zero explanation to any of the points we raised, so I left and went downstairs. Then, there was a thunderous calamity on the stairs as he came running down huffing and puffing. He pointed his finger in my face and yelled at the devotees not to talk to me since --I was a demon. As usual, he had still made no "point for point" reply to any of our questions, just fanatical shouting and demonizing the opponent, OK, not unlike the GBC. "We are right, you are wrong, and why, because you are a demon. Any questions"? And this is what he calls "vaishnava cooperation"? This is exactly how the GBCs behave, and he wanted to be one of them?

Then it gets worse, Tripurari's side-kick at that time, namely the so-called jagat acharya of the universe, Dheera Krishna swami, went running off with his young woman secretary and a nifty little sports car. Rumor was that he took temple money with him when he left. Then Tripurari said, not to worry, this is what happens to gurus from time to time. By the way, Dheera Krishna had also refused to answer our questions.

Anyway, I am thinking, hmmmm, this "guru" Dheera Krishna takes his female followers out on dates, hey, isn't this just like what Ramesvara was doing? And Dheera Krishna left Ramesvara in disgust saying: "dating the female followers is bogus for a guru," but then he ends up doing that himself? Anyway, again, this is non-different from the GBC's idea of relativised and fallen gurus, and behavior-wise also ditto.

The GBC says that gurus fall down into illicit sex with men, women and children, and Sridhara maharaja's "Vasudeva" guru also fell down into homosexuality and illicit sex with a female prostitute in the 1930s. And then in the 1970s, Sridhara Maharaja's next wave of gurus, like Dheera Krishna swami, also fell down. So the Gaudiya Matha's deviants and the GBC's deviants both have the same siddhanta? Gurus fall down. Of course, the reason for that is proabably that the GBC made Sridara Maharaja their siksha guru in 1978.

After all of this, rumors started to surface about Tripurari being massaged by a young woman follower. He was reported to be found in a mall taking this girl out to buy ice cream etc., exactly as Ramesvara had been caught with a young girl in a mall, and exactly as Tripurari's shiksha guru, namely Dheera Krishna, had also done? Again, there seems to be very little difference between his ideas and the GBC's? Worse, Tripurari has endorsed the Gaudiya Matha's notion that gurus fall down (into homosexuality etc.). So, I am wondering, what is the difference between him and the GBC? And isn't Tripurari's "siksa guru" from the Gaudiya Matha: the helper, founder, of the zonal guru system, the bogus annual guru voting system, the homosexual pedophile bogus guru appointment, keeping Jayatirtha afloat, and other similar deviations which Sridhara Maharaja endorsed?

Tripurari's idea is to "merge up" all of the various camps, so much so that he wanted to be voted in as guru by the pedo-poisoner crew. He does not understand that guru is not made by rubber stamp, especially not by pedo-voters, and that gurus do not fall down into illicit affairs anyway, and that dating the female disciple is never done by any bona fide guru, and so on. I personally will never merge into that crew?

The most odd thing about these Gaudiya Matha people is how they downplay the poison issue. Do they feel guilty for supporting that sabha as gurus? Why the silence? This is the loudest silence in the universe. Tripurari, a so-called beloved disciple, has not ordered the poison tape, nor has he commented on the issue to us, nor has he even asked us about it? Instead he says, lets all join together with --the pedo-poison pooja-ites? Oh swell!

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GAUDIYA MATH TO SAVE ISKCON (NOT THAT AGAIN BULLWINKLE)?

24.06.99 - Tridandi Bhaktivedanta Tripurari Swami deputed by GBC to save ISKCON! Yes, he is now here in Los Angeles, invited by the GBC to help with their annual BBT meetings. Many ISKCON devotees were seen bowing down and worshipping him right on the sidewalk. Yet, we may recall that just a few months ago one of the GBC's principle West Coast "acharyas," Prithu dasa, stated that Tripurari was essentially a charlatan, crook and deviant. Now, all of a sudden, Tripurari has emerged as the GBC's new darling and savior, with GBC people all bowing down and offering homage? Of course if you are wearing a "Prabhupada t-shirt" you will be tossed out of the samkirtana van, as occured here recently, since you are a deviant for wanting to worship Srila Prabhupada.

So it seems a little odd that after the GBC has been saying that Tripurari is as bogus as a three dollar bill he has now become their de facto worshipped "rasika" acharya sannyasa? Also, Tripurari is a follower of Sridhara Maharaja, and the GBC wrote a paper in 1982: that anyone who follows him has severed his connection with ISKCON? Well, now that the GBC is cohabitating with Triupurari, one of Sridhara Maharaja's "guru" successors, have they not severed their connection to ISKCON? Anyway, as one "Prabhupadanuga" said to us about these shennanigans, "This shows how desperate the GBC are, they are signing a deal with a person they said is the devil in order to keep in power for a little longer. This is a very good sign that they are on the ropes."

We may recall the Sridhara Maharaja is the person who destroyed the Gaudiya Matha in the 1930s with a homosexual guru imbroglio, where dissidents were murdered, and later in the 1970s he rubber stamped the GBC's poisoner pedophile bogus appointees as "acharyas," resulting in more dissidents getting murdered, and so on and so forth. The GBC keeps calling this type of artificial acharya program back for more and more rubber stamps, especially whenever they get caught with their hands in an expose cookie jar, or one of their "gurus" gets caught with his hands in a child's cookie jar.

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26.03.99 - Tripurari swami: called us a demon when we asked him why he wanted to be "voted in as guru" into either the GBC or Gaudiya Matha guru lineages? That means he wanted to be rubber stamped as guru in either: (a) the 1930s "self-appointed" (Sridhara Maharaja concocted) homosexual, child poisoning, devotee assassinating, guru suicide lineage, or (b) the post 1977 (GBC concocted) homosexual pedophile, devotee assassinating (et al.) guru lineage: at the height of molestations. As far as PADA is concerned personally, getting a "guru rubber stamp" from either the leader of the known 1930s homosexual lineage, or from the leaders of the known post-1970s pedohile guru lineage, is what is deviant here?

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DISCUSSION WITH TRIPURARI's CLONE (TC)

27.06.99 * Tripurari's devotees are out in front of the Los Angeles temple openly preaching that one needs their "rasika" guru's instructions, i.e. Tirpurari and Sridhara Maharaja. One of them (we will call him TC) confronted us.

POISON ISSUE

TC said that our analysis of the poison issue was probably correct. He said, "It makes sense that some GBC may have tried to poison Srila Prabhupada. They had a different view of how to manage than Srila Prabhupada did, and so they felt he was in the way. Yet still these devotees did a lot of sincere service and so they should still be seen as senior devotees. Even Judas did service."

TC further told us we should "be careful to keep our hearts peaceful," while simultaneously he was saying that guru poisoners, molester guru enforcers, devotee assassins, and so on, are to be remembered as "senior devotees who have done sincere service"? We were kind of reeling at this point. Was this a dream or was someone saying --that killing the guru was "not too bad" of an activity? Of course, we may recall that mass murderer Charles Manson has a fan club and some people think he is a swell guy?

Let us get this straight? A vulture is staring at his victim, waiting for him to die so he can seize the body (or assets), and this is "service"? Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati thakura left the planet in disgust, seeing these same vulture-like "senior devotees" sitting aroud him wishing him dead, and this is a sincere service mood?

No wonder TC thinks like that, since he now is in league with the deviant party of bogus Gadudiya Matha gurus who, as Srila Prabhupada says, "killed guru to become guru." Yes, no wonder he sympathizes with the vulture-like "guru killer" sabha. Yet, his telling us to sympathize with the killer sabha did not make our hearts peaceful, as was his stated intention. Rather we felt intense pain thinking that the vulture sabha should be given any credit.

No. They have no "service" to their credit. They came to ISKCON to destroy it, not to serve it. And they have done a pretty good job, except that now their feeding frenzy party is over and it is now war crimes tribunal time.

They did not serve the guru, his senior devotees, his women followers, his children, his schools, his farms, his cows, no, they exploited, harassed, banned, beat, killed, etc. What if Srila Prabhupada had been alowed to live for six more years? The world would be a different place for sure. They did not want his world, they wanted their world: homosexual gurus and so on. And as soon as Srila Prabhupada left, Tripurari swami RAN immediately and went to the vulture/ poisoner/ child molester "guru" sabha for a guru rubber stamp in the early 1980s. Please make me one of you, he begged!

And when the GBC refused to recognize Tripurari as a guru, he was trying to get a guru rubber stamp from Sridhara Maharaja, the founder of the 1930s homosexual guru promoting sabha. Of course Sridhara Maharaja also endorsed the GBC's post-1977 self-appointed/ guru poisoner/ homosexual pedophile/ lineage as well. And when we asked Tripupurari, why was he trying to get rubber stamped as guru by one or the other of two bogus lineages, he became angry and said that we are demons. This seems to be the problem with the Gaudiya Matha, they seem to think that the deviants are "doing service" and the victims are the ones not to be given the benefit of doubt?

Anyway, at this point in my talk last Friday with TC, we were getting upset (from the cavalier manner in which he addressed the poison issue, down-played it, and almost defended the culprits), or our blood was curdling (wow, what kind of people would apparantly minimise the murder of a saint like this: scary!). It was very amazing, yet considering the type of moosh that Tripurari speaks it was not his followers's fault.

TC then said that we "are not peaceful." We said, "Maybe not, but Tripurari was trying to get voted into either the GBC's homosexual pedophile guru lineage, or the Gaudiya Matha's homosexual guru founder's lineage in around 1984, as one of their gurus, so is his an example of being 'peaceful'"? TC could not comment on this.

Anyway, TC continued that it is better to go away and be independent and be peacful. We replied, "You have avoided our question: why do we need a rubber stamp from either of two unauthorized homosexual guru lineages? You say we are agitated and angry, maybe, but not so much agitated that we need the 1930s or 1970s homo-pada's lineages rubber stamp to continue with devotional service"? We also pointed out that Srila Prabhupada said, "Amomgst my God brothers no one is qualified to be acharya," specifically mentioning Sridhara Maharaja, and he said, "This is not black and white." And so we said, "Fine where is it stated that Sridhara Maharaja is an acharya"? TC had no reply.

Anyway, we said, Sridhara Maharaja supported the GBC's bogus guru lineage which included homosexual pedophiles in the late 1970s, and he was saying that people like Bhavananada are acharyas. Therefore Sridhara Maharaja supported the child molester guru regime. "I don't know about this" was TC's reply. OK, so they are not telling him about the actual history then? Moreover, the actual history is that Sridhara Maharaja supported a homosexual guru regime in the Gaudiya Matha, and as such Srila Prabhupada told us that he was very competant to harm our movement. TC concluded by saying he did not like our language. Good, he de facto admits that homosexual pedophiles were supported as gurus, and that Tripurari was trying to get voted in to that sabha, and so it is not "the truth" he can attack but our manner of presentation.

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 PADA: Tirpurari's mentor is credited, by Srila Prabhupada, with destroying the post-1930s Gaudiya Matha with his deviant homosexual guru imbroglio. Tripurari's mentor, having not learned from his first disaster (where incidentally dissidents were banned, beaten and assassinated) then underwrote the post-1970s GBC's deviant guru lineage. Again, homosexual gurus, zonal gurus, guru voting, and similar bogus ideas evolved with the direct or de facto support of his mentor. This caused the same identical havoc in ISKCON. Whether we "give benefit of the doubt" or not, these ideas are wrong. Even in the cannibal society they do not worship homosexual pedophiles or their voters, nor do they consider such deviants to be persons who are, were, or could have been, in their parampara lineage of saints. If you are happy with his explantions, fine, what are they? We have not heard them yet? We asked him many questions in 1985 and he has never replied to even one of our questions. Ever. Your servant and friend, PD

Prithu dasa said that Tripurari is a bogus Gaudiya Matha lackey.

Tripurari - SWIM, SWAM, SWAMI

reply to a local Mendocino newspaper, by pada

From: Pada Newsletter 18. April 2004

I'd like to respond to the "letters to the editor" regarding Tripurari swami. First of all, Nancy McLeod and Bill Allen are incorrect by stating that Tripurari has made his money "selling his books." Most of the senior "Krishna devotees" know that Tripurari's "funding" first of all came first from the sales of vinyl "rock and roll" music records in the 1980s. "Misleading tactics" were used in the sales of these records as well. People thinking they had purchased "The latest Rolling Stones record" got home to discover: they had purchased -- Scottish bagpipe music. Later, his group graduated to the sales of other trinkets and especially T-shirts at places such as: the San Diego Zoo, the San Francisco wharf, various market places in Seattle, and so on and so forth. And when Tripurari's guru partner (Sudhir) left with a Datsun Z sports car, and a female secretary, he allegedly "cleaned out the safe." It would thus seem that their "accounting procedures" are a little bit dubious and they tend to benefit their yuppie "guru elite." And there are people like Gary Lund who know about the T-shirt business since his brother partnered with Tripurari's group in that business in Seattle.

I once asked a Tripurari follower who was selling "Save The Earth" T-shirts in San Francisco, "Where is the money going"? He replied, "The money is going to help drug addicted youth." So the trinket and T-shirt sales business is apparently where Tripurari's group has mainly collected funds to purchase their rural property, Philo hotel, house in San Francisco, restaurant, store and so on. Yet the innocent public, those who gave his group their hard earned money, were never told that the money was going to fund Tripurari's country home, Volvo, exotic pets and so on? So this is what many Krishna devotees call simply: fraud. His group told the public to donate CHARITY funds for "causes" like helping drug addicts (or whatever their line for that day was) and yet the public was never informed that the funds were -- really going to end up supporting a "guru's" yuppie lifestyle. Apart from that, many of the young idealistic "collectors" who operated the T-shirt sales tables and who gave the money to Tripurari's group were later left standing at the door without a penny, when they finally became disillusioned with his group. Some would call this: exploitation of people's religious sentiments.

Of course, when the previous Panorama Road "guru" Jayatirtha (James Immel) was in Philo, and he was being told by Tripurari's mentor (B.R Sridhara) to "stay in the guru seat and be worshipped as God's successor" -- he was allegedly operating one of the biggest "ecstasy" drug sales businesses in England. The British police were quite baffled as to how to stop Jayatirtha since at the time; the drug was legal. Thus, later on when Jayatirtha's head was chopped off -- slowly with a dull knife -- by "a dissenter," and his head was placed neatly in his lap for his shenanigans with a married woman, the British police told his killer (John Tierney) that he had actually done a favor to the Queen's Empire for halting this drug sales problem. Moreover, the British Police allowed John to get out of jail early, which is almost unheard of in England. No doubt, some of the neighbor's in Philo also thought "Jayatirtha is such a nice man." And yet there was the same pattern, Jayatirtha liked to "associate" with his young female followers just as Tripurari has been doing, at least according to eyewitnesses like Nancy Gottfried. Jayatirtha had a nice Volvo, just like Tripurari has one. Jayatirtha "was ordered to be a guru by B.R. Sridhara" just as Tripurari has been. Jayatirtha's followers also ended up on the street without a penny when they became disillusioned with his program.

Of course other Jayatirtha "disciples" have had much more severe problems. For example, while stoned on "ecstasy" one of them pulled out a .22 pistol in a Berkeley theater where he tried to kidnap the actress off the stage. A swat team, and officer Joe Sanchez, had to be called in to intervene. Then again, a "dissenter" flew from Santa Cruz CA to Nepal to "talk some sense into Jayatirtha," and he was subsequently found "floating face down in an icy Nepal lake, after last being seen -- in a boat with Jayatirtha." Another one of Jayatirtha's followers tried to commit suicide by jumping off a freeway bridge. Jayatirtha is: "a nice guy"? So this is the result of B.R. Sridhara/ Tripurari "preaching," they encourage unqualified people like Jayatirtha to be "Jesus-like gurus." And the results are quite disasterous for all parties, such as money scams, drugs, madness, murders and suicides -- ad infinitum. Nevermind this, the first "Jesus-like" guru made by B. R. Sridhara in India (Vasudeva) had his child murdered to cover up his illicit affairs and scandals. And then B. R. Sridhara's "guru" committed suicide by drinking arsenic. Of course B. R. Sridhara says that people like Jesus (acharyas/ pure devote gurus) are often "tempted" and they commonly fall into such odious illicit affairs, and worse he says they also "go mad" (they commit crimes) to obtain these illicit items. This idea is expressed in a book distributed by Tripurari where he says that people like Jesus (acharyas) are "tempted" into illicit sex, money and the desire for worship. Dr. J. Stilson Judah calls B.R. Sridhara's "gurus" "antinomianists" (lawless -- in the name of religion).

As for Ed Smith's letter, he has just sent me $10.00 for our book about "the poisoning of the founder of the Krishna movement." He is therefore "not up to speed" on many of these issues? Moreover, when he wants more information -- he consults with me? He also says, for example, that there were only nine gurus (in 1977), whereas there were in fact eleven. In sum, his facts are a little foggy. Nonetheless, his heartfelt letter to AVA is overall quite good since he seems to have understood the main point: corruption has to be challenged. Yet I do not think that Ed Smith understands all of the history? For example, in 1976 Tripurari helped create a video for the Krishna movement, training people in "crooked collection techniques" (for use especially in the airports). The founder of the Krishna movement (Prabhupada) found out about this video and he was very upset. He sent a letter to all of the temples saying, "These illegal collection techniques will ruin the reputation of our movement and they must be stopped." Yet Tripurari's crew did not stop? This later proved to be a problem in 1980 when a Syracuse New York court case stated: "The Krishna movement is engaged in systematic defrauding of the public." I am not sure whether Ed knows that the source of Tripurari's wealth and property is -- "systematic fraud" and/or trinket and T-shirt sales "to help poor drug addicts," either?

From 1978 until the mid 1980s Tripurari and his mentor B.R. Sridhar were certainly the biggest cheerleaders of the Krishna movement's then "eleven gurus." I met Tripurari in San Francisco around this time, where his friend Marz Attar was trying to get him "voted in as a co-guru" with the other "eleven." So I confronted Tripurari, "Why are you trying to get 'voted in' to a guru program, which contains homosexuals and deviants"? He was very angry at me and he refused to reply. Of course, he has never replied to this question for 15 years hence. Around this time, some of us were openly stating that the eleven's "guru lineage" was "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles," and Tripurari was not only defending that group but he was trying to become one of their co-members. And as a result of Tripurari and similar others like him defending, and even trying to join that group as one of their co-gurus, several thousand children were molested under the jackboots of that regime. This is all documented and is part of the Dallas, Texas "Wendle Turley" lawsuit. "As the leaders looked on and did nothing, children were starved, beat, molested, and killed from medical negligence." And, "There was an epidemic of anal reconstructive surgery for boys." Tripurari certainly cannot say he "did not know about any of this" since I approached him directly about these matters, and also mailed him our papers on the tpoics, and told him there were major problems with his "gurus," including that some of them were homosexuals and pedophiles. As some say, Tripurari was so frantically propping up that regime that he did not hear the sounds of children's skulls crushing under his feet.

One of the gurus endorsed by B.R. Sridhara/ Tripurari was Kirtanananda (Keith Ham). He was always covered with the hands of fifty boys when he sat in his big guru seat, yet Tripurari still said he wanted to be Kirtananda's twin brother and co-guru, despite this rather odd public display? Tripurari's desire to be "voted in" to the guru clan was actually squelched by Kirtananda (who was subsequently arrested), who said, "Since Tripurari wants the name and fame of being a guru, he is not a guru. He simply wants to enjoy the post of guru." And so Tripurari got a "guru certificate" instead from the overarching mentor of ALL of the eleven (bogus) gurus, namely B. R. Sridhara. By the way, B.R. Sridhara is the founder father of a violent homosexual guru cult in India. Anyway, in the 1980s myself and my writing partner, Steve Bryant, were also getting all kinds of death threats for challenging the pedophile guru regime that was supported by Tripurari and B. R. Sridhara. Steve was assassinated on May 22, 1986. Then, officer Joe Sanchez of the Berkeley PD told me I was "next on their hit list." The FBI, Federal Marshals, and others then raided Kirtanananda's farm. I am not sure how Tripurari can say he is "unaware" of any of these events? Around this time B. R. Sridhara also told Hansadutta to keep his "guru worship" going, never mind that Hansadutta admitted to Sridhara that he was addicted to percodan, alcohol, other assorted pain killers and -- affairs with some of his female disciples? B. R. Sridhara also told Jayatirtha to keep his guru project going as well, despite illicit sex and drug problems there -- as well.

After the mass molestation was exposed, and the poisoning of the founder was more and more being exposed, the main founder of the eleven false gurus "Tamal Krishna" (Thomas Herzig) was crushed to death by a large truck, in a car accident in India. Tamal is the main suspect in the poisoning of the Krishna movement's founder and launching the subsequent homosexual pedophile guru cult. And Tamal's self-incriminating "whispers" are prominent on what is now called "the poison tape" where he is saying things like: "the poison is going down." After the car crash, many people were thus clapping and rejoicing that: the founder of the pedophile guru project; the main suspect in poisoning the Krishna movement's founder; the main person who tried to lead the Krishna movement astray by deviating it into another B. R. Sridhara homosexual worship project, was dead. Most everyone was happy, except Tripurari. He wrote a "Eulogy to Tamal" where he was weeping and crying that his hero was dead. Tamal used to lecture that his favorite "guru" was Bhavananda, Charles Bacis, a former "Chelsea Girl" in the Andy Warhol camp. And now Tripurari was saying his favorite hero is, Tamal, the twin brother of homosexual guru Bhavananda? And when Tripurari visits Los Angeles he associates with people like Virabahu, who was "voted in as guru" at the 1986 "recoronation of a known homosexual pedophile guru." Marz Attar by the way told me that if he had tried to overturn the reinstatement of that known homosexual pedophile guru in 1986, "They would have beaten me to death with bamboo sticks." These are the kind of folks Tripurari writes "eulogies" to?

Last but not least, Ed implies that our documents are not factual. Why then are my documents submitted to the Dallas courts by Wendle Turley? Why didn't the eleven gurus challenge our documents and instead they pleaded "no contest" -- and then declared bankruptcy in that court? Why have we never been challenged in any court case EVER for libel and slander, since we started writing even before 1980? Why have we got death threats instead? Why have our statements gone unchallenged when presented to John Hubner who wrote "Monkey On A Stick," or the Rolling Stone Magazine's article "Dial Om For Murder," or Time magazine's "Tempest In a Temple," or CBS news' Jane Wallace on her W.57th street program, -- all of which were repeating my statements, and so on, ad infinitum? Why do Tripurari's followers threaten to "sue me in court" every month, for the past 15 years or more, but they never do that? Why have audio forensic experts such as Jack Mitchell agreed with our poison tape analysis, that the founder of the Krishna movement was indeed: poisoned? And if our documents are all faulty, why is Ed ordering our book and audio CD? Because, there is no solid counterpoint. That is why, thanks, Timothy K. Lee (pada@neteze.com)

PADA ARCHIVES: http://www.harekrsna.org/

Tripurari Swami / Dheera Krishna

Tripurari "voted in as guru" / selfstyled Gaudiya Matha guru

RE: TRIPURARI SWAMI "

From: pada@neteze.com Date: 22.03.99

Dear Raghunatha dasa, thanks for your letter expressing appreciation of Tripurari swami. Unfortunately, we are not able to share your appreciation of him, since the last time we met up with Tripurari he was trying to get "voted in as guru" by the GBC. Yes, the same GBC who had already by this time brought us homosexual pedophile gurus. This was in maybe 1984, after we had already seen clearly that the GBC's "gurus" were having major problems of every type.

YS PADA

PADA's MEETING WITH A FOLLOWER OF TRIPURARI Swami
From PADA Newsletter - Feb. 23, 2003

First of all, the follower announced to me that Tripurari swami has "patched up his relationships with the GBC and he is once again working with them," read: that means that Tripurari has gone back to endorsing the GBC's "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles regime and guru lineage"?

Swell kiddies? Tripurari is the new "re-incarnation" of Ramesvara? He is "back" to hanging out with the GBC and "being one of them"? Well, he always was one of them wasn't he? Indeed, this follower told me that Tripruari was now indeed "friendly with the GBC and they are working together." Well no kidding, they have both endorsed homosexuals, even pedophiles as: gurus? This is like that "Chucky" horror movie, "Chucky Is Back"! Oh great!

So they are birds of a feather? They had nothing to "patch up," they were always really one and the same, part and parcel, i.e. both parties endorsed deviants as Krishna's successor gurus, pure devotees, and Jesus-like saints? Indeed there are three main parties of agreement, the GBC/ Sridhara/ Narayana Maharaja team, they all endorsed the GBC's (homosexual pedophile) "pure devotees," "Vishnupadas" (aka Jesus like) and then again, Jesus is another pure devotee? So they have all juxtaposed homosexual pedophiles and the level of Jesus? And they have all said that those of us who disagree are: "offenders"?

So that means Tripurari is still saying the Prabhupada worshippers are the evil party, he is still saying we are offenders, he is still trying to get the Prabhupada worshippers banned, beat and killed? Indeed the GBC/ Sridhara/ NM crew have said we are offenders all along since 1978 and they still say that? So this is dangerous, Tripurari is teaching people to brand the Prabhupada worshippers as bogus ritviks, just as Ramesvara did, read: go kill em?

Then, this follower said that Tripurari and Narayan Maharaja are now holding hands as well and being good old friends, peas in a pod, and that Jadurani was recently visiting with Tripurari. Well yes, the GBC's homosexual pedophile guru lineage was first endorsed by Sridhara Maharaja in 1978, then later Narayana Maharaja took over as the GBC's advisor in maybe 1984. So (1) The GBC still has documents that say their homosexual pedophiles are "pure devotees" aka Jesus on their web site and they have not retracted and recanted all of this, (2) Tripurari is friendly with the GBC, (3) Jadurani is visiting Tripurari since they agree with the GBC's homosexual pedophile guru lineage and that we are offenders? So now they are all back to square one, they are all "working together" or de facto so. Peas in a pod.

Oddly, this Tripurari follower still says that we are still "offenders," ummm because we do not agree with the GBC/ Sridhara/ NM crew that homosexual pedophiles are or were: pure devotees, gurus, another Jesus? When we asked this follower how -- specifically -- we are "offensive" he had no reply. Stumped. He did not know what specific statements we had made that are allegedly "offensive," he just hears the incessant sabre rattling rants of Tripurari and Narayana Maharaja, "they are all offenders," the rants of the Sridhara, Narayana and Tripurari swami's war mongering against the idea that we have to worship a bona fide Jesus or a Srila Prabhupada and not child molesters? More war drums, more sabre rattling: that all of us non homosexual pedophile worshippers are deviants and offenders?

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Tripurari's Sanga/ Tuesday, February 11, 2003
Sri Guru and His Grace

Q & A with Swami B. V. Tripurari

* "Srila Sridhara Maharaja said that in the matter of choosing a guru it is important that an atmosphere allowing for the free flow of faith prevails and that the individual's choice of guru be respected and his guru honored appropriately by others."

[PADA: Yes, sounds good, but! ...as soon as we "Prabhupadanugas" say we ALSO want this "freedom," we want our "free flow of faith" to flow towards the worship of a bona fide guru, like Srila Prabhupada, and we do not want worship the Gaudiya Matha's or GBC's homosexuals and pedophiles deviant guru lineages et al., then Tripurari swami's real colors emerge: his Gaudiya Matha deviant's party will oppose our "free flow of faith," and militantly? We, the Prabhupadanugas, are all "offenders," because their party militantly does not allow our "free flow of faith" to flow -- to a bona fide guru like Srila Prabhupada? Tripurari's idea is somewhat like the Papal system, you cannot worship Srila Prabhupada (or someone like Jesus) directly, rather you have to worship our rubber stamped Pope, and Sridhara and Tripurari's party have handily endorsed a few of their deviant pals as their "short list" of (their endorsed Popes) gurus or "pure devotees" you can select from?

This ecclessiastical guru concept is also what Tripurari's "siksha guru" Sridhara Maharaja orchestrated in 1936 in India, "anyone" was allowed to have their free flow of faith in any guru, well maybe, provided their faith was affixed to Sridhara Maharaja's appointed and annointed guru: Ananta Vasudeva, a homosexual and a deviant. So this is a little bit of tricky word jugglery here, they make it sound like you are "free to worship any guru of your choice" but the reality is: that Tripurari and Sridhara types have already selected a few of their deviant friends as their exclusive list of "choices of guru" for you, and in sum you have to worship their appointed or annointed guru lineages, which contain homosexuals and deviants.

Notice also that Tripurari is still essentially saying we "Prabhupada devotees" have to "honor another person's choice of guru as Srila Prabhupada's successor," even if they have chosen homosexuals and even pedophiles as their "gurus," as has occured? Why do we have to "honor" that? This is what Sridhara Maharaja also said in 1936, and then again he repeated that in 1977, we (the worshippers of a bona fide pure devotee) have to allow their "worship of homosexuals and deviants program" in our temples and our places of worship, so that their program of "worship of homosexuals as gurus" can be promoted. And notice they are still saying, we have to defer to that deviation? Why?

Tripurari's Bagh Bazaar homosexual guru party has never explained this since 1936? When did Srila Prabhupada ever say we have to "honor" everyone's "choice" of guru, even if they have chosen deviants as their guru? No, he said, mostly the mass of people's choice of guru: is faulty? Sorry again, Srila Prabhupada also says that the persons who misuse the post of guru are "the most obnoxious elements in human society." He never says, "we have to respect them"? Moreover Srila Prabhupada said that this idea, that we have to respect anyone's choice for their guru, is a hodge podge, and is a devation which destroyed the Gaudiya Matha in 1936? And notice as well, what happens when we fail to respect his bogus gurus? We can get banned, beat and killed? That is not a problem, indeed killing people who do not accept "the free flow of faith to homosexual gurus" is not a problem for Tripurari?]

* Tripurari: In spite of what the excerpt from Srila Prabhupada's conversation seems to say, he did not desire or authorize a rtvik system of initiations with himself being the guru of those initiated after his departure from the world.

[PADA: OK notice again, Tripurari is saying that in any case Srila Prabhupada is NOT going to be the guru, "Srila Prabhupada did not authorize a system with him being the guru." This is their idea all along: Exclude Srila Prabhupada's worship, include homosexuals and pedophiles worship, and they have been doing this since 1936. Notice! There is no "freedom" to have Srila Prabhupada as a guru? Who is going to be the guru then, who did Tripurari's party endorse as gurus then? As we all know, people with anarthas, even homosexuals and pedophiles, again as Tripurari explains herein below:]

* Tripurari: Careful study of all the conversations he had with his leading disciples in the months preceding his departure in conjunction with all that he wrote as well as the entirety of the Gaudiya philosophy makes it clear that he expected his disciples to succeed him by qualifying themselves to serve in the capacity of guru.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada allegedly "expected" that his "leading" followers, even those with homosexual anarthas, even those with pedophile anarthas, would "succeed" him, within hours or days after he departed, as Tripurari's -- Sridhara Maharaja endorsed? When did Srila Prabhupada say that he "expected" that the GBC would be his successive gurus? No. He never said that? He rather said the opposite, over and over, that he fully expected the GBC would fail: "will the GBC spoil it after I depart," he asked this question over and over and over? Does this sound like he "expected" they would be his (pure as Jesus and guru) successors? No!

Srila Prabhupada simply never said he "expected" that the "leading disciples" (aka Tamal, Bhavananda, Ramesvara) were going to be "qualified to succeed him" at all, what to speak of within these leader's lifetimes? Srila Prabhupada never said that these "leaders" were in any way -- ready or able -- to be qualified to "succeed" him, or that they would be qualified any time soon? Srila Prabhupada also never even said that these leaders were near, or "on the verge" of being qualified to "succeed" him either as Tripurari implies? Let us forget all of that anyway, the fact is that Sridhara Maharaja and Tripurari endorsed that these "leading disciples" (the GBC) WERE in fact ALREADY qualified to be gurus in 1978, and they advertised these leaders or GBCs as "gurus." Tripurari was indeed trying to get voted in by the GBC as one of their co-gurus.]

* Q. When is rtvik initiation okay and when is it not? Is it only acceptable when the guru is still living and can give his official acceptance but cannot be there in person for the initiation?

A. The essential element of initiation is the will of the guru.

[PADA: Notice that Tripurari swami says here that the most "essential element" is "the guru's will"? Yet his alleged gurus are sometimes homosexuals and pedophiles, posing as gurus. Their "will" is the essential element? Who cares what deviants posing as gurus "will"? Read: who cares that the mass of devotees are being banned, beat and molested, that is not important, rather the victim's "desires and will" has no bearing? What is "important" then is what his bully boy goonda false guru lineages want, even if they are homosexuals and pedophiles. They may want "sex with children" (as actually occured in Tripurari's lineage of "gurus") so their will has to be considered as foremost? And if they are orchestratring murders as well, as indeed Tripurari's "gurus" did, so what, we have to align with what they are "thinking and willing" as most essential? It does not matter what Krishna wants, it only matters what homosexuals and pedophiles posing as His successors want? No, "the most essential element" is that: the guru must be bona fide, otherwise he is not a guru, he cannot give initiations? Tripurari has never clarified that his post 1936 and post 1977 guru lineages are: homosexual and even pedophile and therefore they are not "the will of guru," rather his guru lineages are "the will" of deviants.]

* Tripurari: If this is in place, everything else is a detail. Those who had been accepted as disciples by Srila Prabhupada but were waiting for the actual initiation ceremony to take place when he passed from the world were still considered his disciples.

[PADA: This is false. These "waiting in 1977" people were told in 1978 that they needed to get an initiation from "a GBC guru," and this policy was endorsed by Sridhara Maharaja, and thousands of them were then "initiated" by Ramesvara, Jayatirtha and so on.]

* Tripurari: The initiation function was conducted appropriately by a rtvik representative of His Divine Grace after his passing. ISKCON's decision to proceed in this manner was determined in consultation with Om Visnupada B.R. Sridhara Maharaja.

[PADA: Again this is false, Sridhara Maharaja never said that these GBC are priests (or ritviks), rather he said they are not ritviks but that they are "initiating gurus."]

* Tripurari: In general, the rtvik is a representative functioning in the guru's absence but not after his passing from the world. With the guru's passing another takes a place after him in disciplic succession. This is the meaning of guru parampara, "one guru after another."

[PADA: Maybe, but Tripurari's lineage of "gurus" contains homosexuals and even pedophiles? Sridhara Maharaja endorsed a homosexual as his idea of guru in 1936, and he again endorsed that same deviastion as his idea of guru in 1977? No. The guru must be bona fide? Just because a BONA FIDE guru departs, that does not mean automatically that his "leaders" are "qualified to be his successors"?]

* Q. What is the position of a devotee who rejects one Gaudiya guru to accept another and then rejects the second guru and goes back to the first?

A. This is a difficult question because unknown factors are involved. Srila Sridhara Maharaja said that in the matter of choosing a guru it is important that an atmosphere allowing for the free flow of faith prevails and that the individual's choice of guru be respected and his guru honored appropriately by others.

[PADA: Again notice. As soon as a devotee says he wants to accept Srila Prabhupada as his guru, and he does not want to accept homosexuls as his guru, Tripurari and Sridhara say this is "bogus ritviks" and they insist people worship homosexual guru lineages? They are not allowing any "free flow of faith"? Rather their lineages or those they endorse do the exact opposite, they ban, beat and shoot people who do not agree to their policy of worship homosexuals, pedophiles and deviants.]

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