"Senile Old Man"


IRG - USA - (24-1-99)   (Letter taken from IRG)

Letter from Nara Narayan Vishwakarma das:

Dear Prabhus,


This communication is in response to what appears to be Rabindra Swarupa's letter in which he expresses his incredulity that Srila Prabhupada could possibly have been poisoned. He makes broad assumptions on the matter:

  1. That poison would have come from a disciple and not from some other source.
  2. That if there is a concern of the possibility of poison that this only constitutes an attack on the GBC and does not attempt to really examine the possibility of poison at all.
  3. That apparently no one had motive or opportunity to administer poison, even though Srila Prabhupada had just sent out a formal letter establishing Rittvik appointments that was counter-signed by Tamal Krishna swami.
  4. That there was no disrespect shown to Srila Prabhupada by disciples even though he bitterly complained about how he was treated and how having requested all of his disciples to come to Vrindaban that no one came as well as his plea to go to Govardhana Hill was forcibly prevented in most disrespectful terms by Tamal Krishna.
  5. That the subject of poison is a new one, even though many unrelated accounts of having overheard fragments of conversation concerning Srila Prabhupada being poisoned had emerged as early as 1978. (Yuga Dharma Das) and several years ago (Narayan Das)
  6. That such a question supported by "whisper evidence" should be suppressed and not fully investigated by the GBC to set the record straight for the next ten thousand years of the Golden Age of Kali.

The writer seems to be amazed that a saintly person could be given poison. Has he forgotten Haridas Thakur, Sri Krishna shot in the foot by an arrow, The Pandavas beating each other to death with cat-tails that had turned to iron, of Grandfather Bhishma on the bed of arrows, What to speak of the crucifixion of Jesus and the martyrdom of practically every holy person that Christiandom has produced. Was Bhaktisiddhanta not poisoned? Lalit Prasad claimed to have been poisoned by Tirtha Maharaja. The entire family of Bhaktivinode Thakur fell ill due to the mystical spells of a demented yogi thrown in jail.

What about the men that the writer supports in the "guru" system of ISKCON?

Shall we mention Jayatirtha being protected by Krishna? or Jayapataka' throat being protected not by Krishna but by fat? Kirtanananda's head? Satsvarupa's migraines? Harikesh's vertigo? Kavichandra? These so-called absolute personalities...are they not protected by Krishna?

What the writer has apparently not understood on the subject of the Maha Bhagawata what to speak of the fallen souls parading as gurus in ISKCON is that in the case of Srila Prabhupada that poison is not what would cause Him to leave his body.

A Pure Devotee is held in place not by mortal issues, but by his value to his faithful followers as the ultimate Resource in accessing the Causeless Mercy of Sri Sri Radha Krishna. While His body remains stationary among us, He is actually fully active on the Spiritual Platform, in the transcendental world to which He is the unique exclusive bridge.

If He is subject to disrespect, then by what mechanism might He stay among the offenders? More importantly, even showering those about Him with his Causeless mercy, at what point is He facilitating the disasterous reaction resulting from the Mad elephant offence?


Hansadutta Prabhu is recorded (VNN) as arguing with Tamal that it is a choice of to follow the Kaviraja or to follow Srila Prabhupada. Apparently unable to break the inertial regarding the COMPETE AND CALCULATED DISOBEDIENCE of SUPERSOUL'S DIRECT ORDER through the via medium of Srila Prabhupada he nonetheless argued to follow that order. A weak but correct voice in a sea of disobedience.

Hansadutta reports that at one point Srila Prabhupada after days of making His ONE CONTINUOUS REQUEST finally asked for all of the devotees to assemble.

He asked them to vote; "Shall I be allowed to go to Govardhana" or "shall I not be allowed to go to Govardhana". Only two hands raised for our Transcendental Master to be "allowed" to go to Govhardhan Hill: Hansadutta and Giriraja. When Giriraja saw only two hands in the air, he prudently lowered his. Then there was only one hand Hansadutta's.

Stop and ponder the theological implication of this vote. Compare it to the time that Pontius Pilate washed his hands to absolve himself of what he had come to consider an unjust verdict.

Can you see the single plea of our kindly merciful Master to be obeyed; not because he wanted obedience, but because by obeying Him we could avoid the offense of minimizing His Direct Order. HE SAID THAT HE WOULD BE CURED IF HE WENT! ...Godbrothers, accepting this as a PIVOTAL MOMENT in the destiny of this world, THOSE PRESENT VOTED HIM TO DIE!

The conclusion cannot be escaped except by a faithless person. THEY DID NOT BELIEVE THE "WORDS EMANATING FROM HIS LOTUS MOUTH" that clearly stated that if he went to Govardhan He would

Godbrothers, please do not commit the mad elephant offense by saying that they were sentimentally feeling that "it would be best for Him to stay in Vrindaban." That is not the Theological issue. If you argue that their fear of Him going was justified, then you will have fallen prey to those, who like Tamal Krishna were sick of Srila Prabhupada and called him a "Senile Old Man". With such an attitude by his so-called "intimate disciples" why look to mercury or arsenic for poison? Those poisons, (If actually administered) were only symbols of gross disobedience and what Srila Prabhupada politely referred to as "discourtesies" in the context of the New Vrindaban "Prabhupada is God" coup in 1970.

Let us say that during His last days he was surrounded by the exact individuals who had been proven time and time again (through letter, room conversation, morning walks etc) to have tried the patience of a Saint.

Amazing that such Saint-baiting types should then announce themselves to be His True, pure, acharya
successors only months after He had held them very much to task for offensive behavior.

The writer refers to my statement that Tamal Krishna and Shayamasundhara das held a conversation in Bombay that I personally overheard in which Srila Prabhupada was described as Old and attached, a senile old man, senile etc.

This is no fiction. I am the witness. I call upon the Akashic record as my authority of verification. In the Court of Yamaraja, it will all come out. That is what was said. If Tamal Krishna believes in life after death and the judgement of Yamaraja, he will have to agree that what I say is the truth.

He made many statements within the hearing of devotees that reveal his utter lack of respect or belief in Srila Prabhupada.

Perhaps you need to know that I owe a deep and eternal debt to Tamal Krishna. I have no direct motive to degrade him or create any offense toward him. It was he who preached to me in 1968. It was his irrefutable arguments that caused me to renounce my mayavadi conclusions and to embrace the Vaishnava path. I have never had a cause to dislike Tamal or to envy him. He was my mentor in the early days of the movement. I have never aspired to be a "guru" or GBC, and have seldom served as temple president. My work was to build Vyasasanas, Carve Deities, build Rathayatra cars, decorate temples, and to manage the BBT art department and design the paintings from 5th canto to the middle of 10th canto Srimad Bhagavatam. I was art editor for Back to Godhead and designed the masthead currently in use.

BLASPHEMED Srila Prabhupada in my hearing whether he remembers or admits it himself or not, and HE WAS THE STRONGEST ALL-PRESENT ALL-DOMINATING PRESENCE during Srila Prabhupada's last days. WHAT MORE POISON DO YOU WANT? Or don't you believe such things are true.

IN THE END, YOU WILL EITHER ACCEPT OR NOT ACCEPT WHO SRILA PRABHUPADA REALLY WAS. That will be your only test. The line is drawn irrevocably in the sand.


Your eternal servant,

Nara Narayan Vishwakarma das

Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!