Bhakti
Caru - the Cash collecting Swami Bhakti
Caru - the Cash collecting Swami A Ray of Hope for Bhakta Kripa das?
BY: MAHAVIDYA DAS (ACBSP)
Jul 21, 2010 — UK (SUN) --
An interesting article from Bhakta Kripa prabhu wherein he rises up to defend HH Bhakti Caru Swami.
For the record, I have been trying to get in touch with HH Bhakti Caru Swami for several years now, all to no avail.
A bit of a joke, really.
Somehow or other, HH is never available.
I do not know what HH Bhakti Caru Swami does or does not do in the rest of the
world, but I do know what he does or does not do when he flies into
Bhaktivedanta Manor.
The said Swami's own disciples tell me.
HH Bhakti Caru Swami comes to ISKCON UK on a regular basis,
usually to collect cash.
Rumour has it the Swami has just been given a duff diamond by one of his followers, tut tut .
Some of his disciples complain to me that he rarely, if ever, asks them about their spiritual welfare.
He has a cosy relationship with the local management wherein they openly flatter each other.
Maharaja's feet rarely, if ever so to speak, get off the red carpet.
Of course…
we never hear of Maharaja speaking up against all the nonsense that goes on here at Bhaktivedanta Manor,
no... not once.
And why is that?
To put it simply…
no more cash for HH Bhakti Caru Swami!
So when Bhakta Kripa prabhu raves about HH Bhakti Caru Swami's preaching,
one is obliged to ask...
Just what is HH Bhakti Caru Swami preaching?
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BY: CHAKRESHWARA GOSWAMI
Jul 15, 2010 — INDIA (SUN) -- Back in the day of Srila Prabhupada's manifest lila, what do you think His Divine Grace would have done if an ISKCON "leader" created a conference poster with a woman, breasts half exposed and lying on her back sniffing incense, and a tiny wee picture of Srila Prabhupada one quarter the size of a postage stamp at the bottom? Are we to presume that His Divine Grace sits there beside a lotus flower and a creek because he left India as a penniless sannyasi to teach flower-sniffing and take peaceful strolls through the woods? This poster is offensive, the entire conference is wrong-minded, and Bhakti Caru Swami should be ashamed of this sort of minimization off Srila Prabhupada.
How can a Vaishnava sannyasi do this to his preceptor? Never has such an offense ever been committed before. The guru-drohi who creates such an aparadha should enter into severe tapasya as atonement. This is an unparalleled disgrace to the greatest representative of yuga dharma India has ever produced.
I do not know if he has ever actually tried it or not, but Bhakti Caru should stick to going out on sankirtan and selling Bhagavad Gita As It Is instead sponsoring Hindu-ized New Age conferences that wholesale nescience. We encourage Drutakarma to resign from this hodge-podge conference, which includes tantric yogis side by side with grinning New Agey "devotees".
Such Orovillian conferences make no one into Vaishnavas, but rather give the message that ISKCON is a society of limp-wristed impersonalists. It is a slap in the face of every devotee who ever stood on the concrete streets with a weighty book bag on his shoulder.
If Srila Prabhupada saw this disgusting poster, [http://harekrsna.com/sun/editorials/07-10/lifestyles2.jpg] a bomb would go off that would be felt all over the world. It is a symptom of the shame that has befallen ISKCON under unqualified, politically-oriented leadership. Corporate ISKCON has sunk to a new low.
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A Ray of Hope for Chakreshwara Goswami
BY: BHAKTA KRIPA DAS
Jul 20, 2010 — INDIA (SUN) — The assembled Vaishnavas don't see Chakreshwara Goswami's recent article, " Bhakti Caru's Planned Conference Minimizes the Pure Devotee " as a blatant and despicable act of Vaishnava aparadh (which of course it is). We see this as a desperate last cry for help from a tortured misguided soul. He may not even be aware that he is one step away from completely destroying his spiritual life.
Of course, if he has been reading Srila Prabhupada's books, then there is NO QUESTION that he would understand this. He is simply unleashing a mad elephant into his garden that will devastate his tender devotional creeper. Perhaps he is unaware that HH Bhakti Caru Swami is very dear to Prabhupada, and has for years sacrificed everything to preach the glories of the Holy Name for the pleasure of Srila Prabhupada, and the eternal benefit of uncountable millions of conditioned souls.
If he was aware how deeply Prabhupada loves HH Bhakti Caru Swami, and all devotees who have given their lives for the propagation of the Holy Name, he would not dare blaspheme him.
He definitely is unaware that, if he simply contacted HH Bhakti Caru Swami privately and made his observations, then Bhakti Caru Swami would undoubtedly thank him profusely and work hard to correct whatever inadvertent mistakes his disciples might have made in the course of enthusiastic preaching efforts. If he approached HH Bhakti Caru Swami according to standard Vaishnava etiquette, he would quickly find out that Bhakti Caru Swami Maharaj never tolerates any minimizing of Srila Prabhupada's position.
Obviously, the goswami was not aware of all these things. But a plea of ignorance will not save a devotee from the Mad Elephant Offence. We have seen many stalwart Vaishnavas blasted out of blissful Krsna consciousness simply because they did not take seriously the danger of Vaishnava Aparadh. Therefore, we understand that Chakreshwara Goswami's apparently despicable diatribe, full of sadhu ninda, is actually a pathetic call for help.
Help is here, Chakreshwara Goswami! We are offering you a free membership in Aparadhaholics Anonymous. The method used by A.A., as taught by Srila Prabhupada and approved by all previous Acaryas, is 100% effective. You can start right now!
1. Understand your fallen and precarious position. If this is not clear, wipe all the dust off your Bhagavatam and start reading
2. Once you understand how close you are to destroying your spiritual life, immediately rush to the lotus feet of HH Bhakti Caru Swami and all the other Vaishnavas you have offended (the typical aparadhaholic is almost always a repeat offender). With heartfelt tears, offer your sincere apologies and beg for the mercy of the Vaishnavas you have offended. Being soft hearted, these Vaishnavas will certainly be merciful unto you. Be aware that all the Vaishnavas you have blasphemed feel no enmity or hatred towards you – in fact all the devotees will embrace you in love.
3. The envious mentality can creep back into the heart at any moment. An aparadhaholic should understand that this tendency must be fought every day. The only sure medicine is to humbly serve the devotees every day of your life. Remember, you are one act of blasphemy away from destroying what is most dear to you.
4. Remember that we are here to serve you. We want to see you become a strong humble devotee.
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BY: NANDA KISHORE DAS
Jul 21, 2010 -- UK (SUN) -- Dear C Goswami, I am so sorry you are so angry and despite your lengthy and extensive chastisement, I am afraid you have completely missed the very simple point. The devotees are simply trying to do some preaching and introduce Krishna "somehow or other", as instructed to us in Srila Prabhupada's purports, and there are a zillion such examples in the whole history of our movement.
Ask yourself the simple question: "Do you really think their motivation in printing this poster and organising the conference was to do anything other than preach Krsna Consciousness? Or, as you are so unswervingly accusing them of having some bizarre motivation to minimise Srila Prabhupada and pander to the new agers? I mean why would they do that? Why? They aren't gonna make any money or get women? Why would they bother to do all that just to minimise Srila Prabhupada and be offensive?
Think about it. You are making out like they are evil monsters for trying to do a little preaching. Prabhu you are off the wall. You make out like they hate Srila Prabhupada and are purposefully making a huge offense to him. Are you forgetting that Srila Prabhupada was pleased even if the name of Krishna appeared in the media?
It's like so many other unfortunate articles on this site making aparadhas. What exactly is the motivation of all these devotees who are being so severely critiscised by people such as you? You think they are preaching and dressing as devotees and chanting, etc., etc. for other reasons then to follow the directive of our movement, which is to spread Krishna Consciousness. Or have they been doing these things for years and years with these underlying evil motivations that you and others so heinously accuse them of?
I mean like if they wanted to be materialists and enjoy wealth and women, I am sure they would be doing something else rather than wandering around the planet trying to do something to spread Krsna Consciousness. You make out the devotees are like evil monsters trying to undermine everything we hold dear. Give it a break yeah! And if you know better, let me see you put huge posters of Srila Prabhupada around the planet and save the world. Why don't you do that if you are so sure it's a brilliant idea. You do that and forgive the poor devotees who are trying their best.
I think you and people like you are just missing the simple point and are huge fault finders who have lost their way, being in some kind of cloud of misguided self-righteousness.
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BY: MAHAVIDYA DAS (ACBSP)
Jul 22, 2010 — UK (SUN) --
Interesting article by Nanda Kishore das .
I will first of all agree with the principle of Vaisnava aparadha.
Unfortunately... history has shown us that many "preachers" in ISKCON do exactly what Nanda Kishore refers to…
collect money and eventually run off with a member of the opposite, or in some cases, a member of the same sex.
Does Nanda Kishore prabhu want a list?
How about the sordid details?
How about a list of GBC Gurus who molested children?
How about a list of GBC Gurus who looked the other way?
How about a list of those who still do ?
And this is a mere tip of the iceberg.
Of course, the easy way out of this conundrum in ISKCON is to label anyone who finds this disagreeable (take your pick) "fault finder", "aparadhi", "envious", "outright demoniac", etc., etc.
Yet…
His Divine Grace AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder-Acarya of ISKCON, also speaks about the "Kali chelas" in the guise of Vaisnavas.
You can read about it in Sri Chaitanya-caritamrta.
You can also read about Vaisnavas in the mode of ignorance and why they are to be avoided in Sri Srimad Bhagavatam.
Now... this does not sit well with much of our ISKCON leadership.
They would have you simply respecting everyone (especially the leadership).
The underlying point being, "don't look too closely at me ".
Do not look at my history.
Need any examples?
But... what to do?
Apparently, according to some, simply shaving ones head, applying tilak and wearing a dhoti (or sari as the case may be) is the be all and end all.
We have become pure devotees.
Sorry... but this is not the case.
The fact is... many of our ISKCON leaders (and others ) fail to grasp this rudimentary understanding.
Simply take a look at our ISKCON history.
It has come to the point now where here at Bhaktivedanta Manor , it is our neighbours in the village who stand up and quote from Srila Prabhupada's teachings in order to challenge the ISKCON nonsense.
Yes... rather than all the preachers who visit Bhaktivedanta Manor, it is the neighbours, those karmi meat eating demons, who speak up.
How ironic that a society supposedly dedicated to self-realisation is totally scared to death when it comes to feedback.
As Srila Prabhupada taught us, "Krishna consciousness is a science".
Simply remaining a fanatic will not take one back to Godhead.
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BY: CHAKRESHWARA GOSWAMI
Jul 23, 2010 -- INDIA (SUN) -- I have raised an objection to a depiction of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabhupada shown on a New Age poster with a half-naked woman. I thought the community of devotees would support me in this, that a sannyasi, what to speak of a Jagat Guru, is never depicted in such a demeaning way. Of all the gurus, swamis and yogis that went West in the 60's and 70's, practically one and all returned to the homeland burdened by sex scandals. Except for the spotless Paramahamsa, Srila Prabhupada.
Nonetheless, I have received attacks on my character for trying to protect the singular position of the Sampradaya Acarya. I am characterized as vicious and envious. I have been invited to join the Aparadoholics Anonymous (doubtless by some members in very good standing!). I am spoken down to as an outside fool with no right to comment on errant inter-organizational affairs.
It was suggested that had I written His Holiness Bhakti Caru Maharaja of my concerns, he would have immediately complied with my request. In fact, I did write to every member of the committee and never received a reply. According to His Grace Sriman Mahavidya das Prabhu's article in my defense , His Holiness has a reputation, unlike Srila Prabhupada, for not answering letters.
I do not wish to argue like the bickering bidi-smoking "sadhus" who have nothing better to do than beg for free food in the holy dhams. Life is too short and too serious. Krishna consciousness, the goal of existence for all sentient creatures, remains elusive for those who would argue rather than surrender. Therefore, I am left here wondering, "How would you like it?"
Please also see:
http://www.harekrsna.org/Bhakti-Charu-hist.htm