Message from Adridharan Das, Temple President of ISKCON Calcutta:
Theme: Read the story that VNN refused to publish
From: Adri@cwcom.net (Adri)
Date:
18.Sep. 1999
Welcome to issue 3 of our newsletter, which
is a special issue edition. The following article was sent to VNN 3 times
for publication, and they have refused to answer why they will not publish
it. It is not the first time they have refused to publish an article from
us that deals with the Gaudiya Matha. We decided to write this article since
it is very clear that Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON is under increasing attack
from other institutions that wish to take advantage of the fact that ISKCON
itself currently operates an unauthorised and impotent Guru system. In view
of the fact that ISKCON's leadership has been either unable or unwilling to
fight off this challenge, we decide that we had to write the following to
protect Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON from being misled by outside influences.
We will let the readers decide for themselves why VNN refused to publish the
following:
In order to make absolutely certain we have not misunderstood Maharaja, English
not being his first language, we have only taken quotes from an article that
appeared in the 1990 ISKCON journal entitled 'Conversation with H.H.Narayana
Maharaja' where he was interviewed by H.G.Ravindra Svarupa. Prior to publication
the article was read to Maharaja in Hindi by Satya-narayan das, and he was allowed
to make whatever adjustments he wanted. Thus we know for certain that the quotes
given below fully and
correctly represent his views; especially since, to this very day, he has never
retracted a single word of the article. We shall give subject headings followed
by Narayan Maharaja's statements, and then point out where he differs from Srila
Prabhupada.
*** Narayan Maharaja accepts the concept of re-initiation
"And in the case of a fallen guru- when one has taken diksa
from a guru who falls down, and again he takes from a Bhavananda or someone,
and again he falls. In that case we should watch and see see that the guru is
reliable (.) And when a reliable brahmana-nistha and sabda-brahma-knowing guru
is found, then he certainly should be re-initiated." (GBC 1990 ISKCON JOURNAL
p.21)
According to Srila Prabhupada, authorised members of the disciplic succession never deviate for a second, what to speak of fall into gross sinful life:
"A bona fide spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from time eternal and he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord." (Bg.4.42, purport)
He taught that if a so-called guru falls down then he was never properly authorised to initiate:
".sometimes a spiritual master is not properly authorised and only on his own initiative becomes a spiritual master, he may be carried away by an accumalation of wealth and a large number of disciples." (NOD p.116)
Rather than preach that such fall-downs are indicative of a lack of authorisation,
Maharaja fully accepts that such things occur, and that when it happens one
must be 're-initiated'. The term 're-initiated' was never used by Srila Prabhupada,
and for good reason. If the guru was unauthorised then he was never giving diksa
in the first place, and therefore there is no question of the disciple ever
having been 'initiated'. If he has not been 'initiated' then where is the question
of 're-initiation'. Remember initiation is not just a ceremony, but is defined
as the authorised transference of transcendental knowledge from guru to disciple.
The term 're-initiation' is thus meaningless and implies a deviation from the
teachings of our parampara as given to us by Srila Prabhupada. If a guru
falls down then he could not have been authorised by the predecessor acarya
in the disciplic succession, and could therefore not have initiated anyone with
transcendental knowledge. There is not one single example in all of Srila Prabhupada's
teachings of a former authorised member of the disciplic succession falling
into illusion.
*** Narayan Maharaja teaches 'living guru' philosophy
"And for a newcomer, it is sure that he should be initiated by a living guru."
In answer to Ravindra Svarupa's point that the Vaisnava guru is always living, Maharaja said:
"But not in eyesight."
He later added:
"The meaning of parampara is living guru, present guru." (all from p.22 ISKCON Journal)
The Maharaja offers no scriptural support for his 'living guru' 'physical presence' philosophy. Certainly the above statements are never made by Srila Prabhupada, and hence must be rejected by anyone claiming to follow Srila Prabhupada:
'The potency of transcendental sound is never minimised because the vibrator is apparently absent'. (S.B.2.9.8, purport)
'So we should associate by the vibration, and not by the physical presence. That is real association.' (SP Lecture, 18.8.68, montreal)
'Therefore we should take advantage of the vani, not the physical presence.' (SP letter to Suci Devi dasi, 4.11.75)
If it was a fact that in order to be initiated the disciple must have the
guru in his 'eyesight', then many hundreds or even thousands of Srila Prabhupada's
disciples were not properly initiated, since they never saw his physical body
even once. This 'physical presence' idea was rejected by Srila Prabhupada over
and over again and is never mentioned in any sastra, yet it forms a corner stone
of Maharaja's particular brand of Vaisnavism. Furthermore nowhere does Srila
Prabhupada ever teach that the current link
in the disciplic succession must be 'living', as in 'physically present' in
order to remain current.
*** Narayana Maharaja teaches that a madhyama adhikari
can give full initiation
"If a man is not uttama Vaisnava, even if he is madhyama adhikari stage, if he is simple and sincere, he should be treated as guru and we can take initiation from that person." (page 22)
In a section of the C.c dealing specifically with initiation Srila Prabhupada says the exact opposite:
"The guru must be accepted from the topmost platform of devotional service. There are three classes of devotees, and the guru must be accepted from the topmost class." (C.c.Madhya, 24.330,purport)
As is self-evident this directly contradicts Narayan Maharaja's assertion. Certainly a madhyama can accept disciples in an instructing sense, but such followers are warned:
'.they cannot advance very well towards the ultimate goal of life under his insufficient guidance.'
Therefore:
'One should not become a spiritual master unless he has attained the platform of uttama-adhikari.' (The Nectar of Instruction, text 5, purport)
*** Narayana Maharaja teaches that a madhyama adhikari can only give partial
initiation
At another point in the conversation, Narayana Maharaja seems to contradict this concession for madhyama adhikari Diksa Gurus when Ravindra Svarupa asks the following question:
RS: "Let me ask another question. You said earlier that a madhyama adhikari is qualified for giving diksa."
NM: "To some extent"
RS: "To some extent"
NM: "Yes, to some extent.
As well as contradicting his own previous assertion; in downgrading the madhyama adhikari's ability to give initiation, and saying they can only do it 'to some extent', Narayana Maharaja presents us with the novel concept of 'partial initiation'. Certainly Srila Prabhupada never taught that some authorised diksa gurus can only transmit a portion of the transcendental knowledge required for liberation. The diksa guru who only initiates 'to some extent' is an entity never mentioned by Srila Prabhupada, and therefore no ISKCON devotee can accept this idea as bona fide.
*** Narayan Maharaja teaches that a kanistha adhikari can initiate
"Say there is no madhyama adhikari. Suppose we are all kanishta adhikari. Then within the kanishta group, if one is on a higher level than me, he should be treated as guru. He will be vartma-pradarsaka-guru, or he can initiate." (p.24)
Above Narayan Maharaja clearly states that a kanishta adhikari, or someone on the lowest platform of devotional service, can initiate disciples. This seriously contradicts Srila Prabhupada's teachings on guru tattva:
"When one has attained the topmost position of maha-bhagavata, he is to be accepted as a guru and worshipped exactly like Hari, the Personality of Godhead. Only such a person is eligible to occupy the post of a guru." (C.c.Madhya, 24.330,purport.)
*** Narayan Maharaja teaches that a kanistha adhikari can not initiate
Later in the conversation the Maharaja seems to contradict himself:
'Uttama adhikari and kanishta adhikari cannot be guru.'
We understand from Srila Prabhupada that in order to preach, an uttama adhikari will act on the madhyama platform; but he is still an uttama adhikari. Indeed he 'must' be on the topmost platform before there is any scope for occupying the post of initiating guru, on this Srila Prabhupada could not be more emphatic.
And if kanishta adhikaris cannot be guru we wonder why the Maharaja had just said they could initiate?
In summary, Maharaja has presented the surprising scenario that the less qualified one is, the more qualified they are to give initiation. Let us look again at the statements he has made:
1) Uttama adhikari's cannot initiate.
2) Madhyama's can only initiate to 'some extent'.
3) Kanistha adhikari's can initiate fully.
However Maharaja simultaneously contradicts the above statements by saying that a kanistha adhikari can not initiatiate, and also that a madhyama adhikari gives full initiation.
*** Narayan Maharaja teaches one does not need specific
authorisation to initiate
"Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati has not said or given any document that Swamiji (Srila Prabhupada) will be guru. But yet he is guru. (.) Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura has not mentioned that so many others will do acarya, yet they have done. This is the system." (P.23)
Srila Prabhupada clearly taught that one must only take initiation from someone who has been authorised by his own predecessor acarya:
"One should take initiation from a bona fide spiritual master coming in the disciplic succession, who is authorised by his predecessor spiritual master. This is called diksa-vidhana." (S.B.4.8.54, purport.)
One might argue that all Srila Bhaktisiddhanta's disciples were authorised to initiate. However, there are several problems with such a hypothesis.
1) At the time of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta's passing there was only an instruction
to co-operate under a GBC. There was no order for everyone to start initiating.
2) That no one was authorised is evidenced by the fact that the most senior
and influential disciples of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta decided to vote in one initiating
acarya, Vasudeva. If they had all been clearly authorised to initiate then why
did they not all just start initiating straight away?
3) This proves that the 'system' Narayan Maharaja confidently refers to above
was not known to most of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta's leading disciples. Certainly
Srila Prabhupada never taught it.
4) Srila Prabhupada said none of his Godbrothers were qualified to be acarya,
and stressed that authorisation was essential. When advising one of his disciples
against taking initiation from one of his Godbrothers he wrote:
"On the whole you may know that he is not a liberated person, and therefore, he cannot initiate any person to Krishna Consciousness. It requires special spiritual benediction from higher authorities." (SP Letter to Janaradhana, 26.4.68)
Yet according to Maharaja the 'guru' in question (Bon Maharaja) had received such a benediction, along with every member of the Gaudiya Matha who began initiating.
5) Narayana Maharaja cannot possibly claim to know the content of every single
exchange between Srila Prabhupada and his Spiritual Master. So how can he, in
good faith, state so categorically that Srila Prabhupada was not the recipient
of such a "special spiritual benediction"?
6) Since Narayan Maharaja accepts Srila Prabhupada as a perfect acarya, then
he must accept Srila Prabhupada would not preach that one needed authorisation
from ones own guru before initiating, if he had not gained such a 'benediction'
before he himself started initiating. Srila Prabhupada practised what he preached,
the definition of acarya.
*** Narayan Maharaja rejects the ritvik system
"We don't follow any ritvik system". (page 23)
His main reason for rejecting the July 9th order seems to be based on the idea that he has not heard of such a system being employed previously:
"In our Gaudiya Vaisnava line there is no ritvik".
Of course this ignores the fact that there was a ritvik system running within
ISKCON for the last few months of Srila Prabhupada's appearance. In rejecting
the very notion, Narayan Maharaja is rejecting a system Srila Prabhupada personally
set up and allowed to run 'in our Gaudiya Vaisnava line'. This 'precedent' argument
is itself illogical and self-defeating since there is no example of a disciple
rejecting the order of his guru purely on the basis that such an order had not
been issued previously. All
acaryas set precedents, otherwise there would be nothing to look back and compare
with. So Maharaja's assertion that such a system has not occurred before, even
if it were true- (and we have no way of knowing what went on in all the world
movements in previous Kali yugas just after the appearance of the Golden Avatar)
- would still be irrelevant, since acaryas invariably
set new precedents; albeit in line with sastric injunctions.
Since Maharaja fails to offer any injunction from Srila Prabhupada's books that might prohibit the deployment of officiating priests to carry out initiations on behalf of a departed acarya, we can only assume he has no real philosophical validity to his opposition. Thus he remains conspicuously at odds with Srila Prabhupada's explicit orders, such as the July 9th institutional directive.
*** Narayana Maharaja accepts the ritvik system but states it is not called
ritvik
"Only in a case where a guru is very far away from someone. (.) But it is not called ritvik."(p.23)
Yet Srila Prabhupada himself called the 11 nominated devotees "ritvik- representative of the acarya" (July 9th letter). And what happened to the idea of the disciple needing to be within the 'eyesight' of the guru. How will the disciple see the guru if he is 'very far away'?
"If someone is in America and the guru is in India, and the guru cannot go to America and the American cannot come to India, then, at that time, a devotee in America can officiate and give hari-name, japa-mala and so on, if the guru orders."
The disciple would certainly need exceptional eyesight to see a guru from that
distance! And where are the previous examples of such a system? If the Maharaja
feels that a system is invalid if it has not been practised in the past, how
is it that this type of initiation is suddenly so acceptable?
When has inter-continental diksa ever taken place before with no physical contact
between the guru and disciple? What happened to the physical eye to eye contact
that Maharaja previously deemed so essential?
*** Narayana Maharaja accepts that ritviks were appointed for after departure
Srila Prabhupada also referred to the 11 ritviks as 'officiating acarya' on May 28th 1977; and in the following exchange we see Narayan Maharaja confirm that these nominees were meant to act after his departure:
Ravindra Svarupa: In fact, that word (ritvik) was not introduced by Srila Prabhupada but by Tamal Krishna Goswami. Srila Prabhupada himself said "officiating acarya".
Narayan Maharaja: Well, that can be done. He has told me like this.
Ravindra Svarupa: He?
Narayan Maharaja: Swamiji. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. I asked him in Vrindavan, what arrangement have you done for after your. And he told me that in different countries I have given this trust to our devotees to do the work of acarya, and they will do. And that after his demise he said they will preach and give hari-nama and diksa. He has told me also.
Notice that Narayan Maharaja admits Srila Prabhupada had mentioned the term
'officiating acarya', and that they were meant to give diksa after his demise.
Not only does Maharaja immediately accept a term with no direct mention in sastra,
once more contradicting his earlier insistence on precedent, but he also inadvertently
helps support the ritvik position. If Srila Prabhupada had wanted diksa gurus
for after his 'demise' then why talk about something with no mention in any
sastra, namely 'officiating
acaryas'? Why did he not say 'I shall be ordering diksa gurus for after my departure'
if that was what he had intended?
On the one recorded occasion where Srila Prabhupada used the term 'officiating acarya', he equated it with the word 'ritvik' (May 28th 1977) and according to the final July 9th order ritviks were indeed meant to give diksa after his 'demise'. Since they were 'officiating acaryas', not acaryas in their own right, they would give diksa only on Srila Prabhupada's behalf. Please note that according to Maharaja, Srila Prabhupada gave this answer specifically with regards to what was to occur after his departure, not before. So Narayan Maharaja here accidentally supports the ritvik position by agreeing that Srila Prabhupada wanted 'officiating acaryas' or 'ritviks' for after his departure. Unfortunately Maharaja seems unaware of the clearly prescribed role of these 'officiating acaryas'. Perhaps he had not been shown the July 9th letter by the GBC.
*** Narayan Maharaja applies the term 'acarya' to persons
Srila Prabhupada criticised
".Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Goswami Thakura- he did not mention who will be guru after his demise. But there is a system in our sampradaya. So Tirtha Maharaja, Madhav Maharaja, Sridhar Maharaja, our Gurudeva, Swamiji- Swamiji Bhaktivedanta Swami- they all became acaryas."
Above Maharaja mentions persons such as Tirtha Maharaja as being acaryas as part of a bona fide system 'in our sampradaya'. Yet Srila Prabhupada described such persons as envious rascals. Srila Prabhupada described Tirtha Maharaja as an 'envious snake' intent on causing trouble; he said Madhava Maharaja was 'especially' in the business of 'poison'; and that Sridhara Maharaja had 'disobeyed the order of his guru maharaja'. Though Srila Prabhupada encouraged his Godbrothers to co-operate with ISKCON, and was affectionate to them, he clearly did not endorse them as being qualified acaryas:
"But Sridhara Maharaja is responsible for disobeying this order of Guru Maharaja, and he and others who are already dead unnecessarily thought that there must be one acarya. [.] So Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly selected one acarya and later it proved a failure. [.] Actually amongst my Godbrothers no one is qualified to become acarya." (Letter to Rupunuga, 28/4/74)
Obviously there is a vast gulf in the perception of what constitutes a bona fide acarya between Maharaja and Srila Prabhupada.
Looking at the above quote from Narayana Maharaja in relation to his professed conversation with Srila Prabhupada just prior to his departure, the following is worth thinking about:
If Srila Prabhupada had told Narayan Maharaja he was going to appoint just
11 officiating acaryas for after his departure, according to Maharaja, he would
have gone completely against the 'system in our parampara'. Remember in Maharaja's
'system', after the departure of the guru any disciple can give initiation as
and when he feels ready. For Srila Prabhupada to appoint
just 11 of his thousands of disciples as officiating acaryas would go completely
against what Maharaja considers correct practice. Thus just why Maharaja felt
the appointment of 11 'officiating acaryas', or ritviks, was the 'system in
our sampradaya' is far from clear, especially since he completely rejects the
very notion now. It would seem he is rather confused over just what is acceptable
practice in our sampradaya, and what Srila Prabhupada actually ordered for after
his departure.
*** Narayan Maharaja rejects the very existence of the word ritvik
I have not seen the word "ritvik" in our Vaisnava dictionary. (.) We have seen no such word as "ritvik". (p.23)
In the Srimad Bhagavatam the word "ritvik" and its derivatives are mentioned over thirty times. Thus the Maharaja is not only at odds with Srila Prabhupada, but also with one of the most important Vaisnava scriptures!
Conclusion
*** Narayan Maharaja teaches the following in opposition to Srila Prabhupada:
1. That authorised initiating gurus can fall down.
2. That the term 're-initiation' has some place in Vaisnava theology.
3. That diksa is dependent on the physical presence of the guru.
4. That the guru must be within the 'eyesight' of the disciple in order for
initiation to take place.
5. That a madhyama can initiate.
6. That a madhyama can give partial diksa
7. That a kanishta can initiate.
8. That one does not need to be authorised by one's guru before starting to
initiate.
9. That we should not follow the final order on initiation issued by Srila Prabhupada
on July 9th 1977.
10. That envious persons who spent decades fighting over property, and who voted
in a bisexual initiator, are examples of bona fide acaryas.
11. That the word ritvik does not exist in vaisnavism.
*** Narayana Maharaja also contradicts himself by simultaneously stating the following:
1a) That a madhyama adhikari gives full diksa.
1b) That a madhyama adhikari only gives partial diksa.
2a) That a kanistha adhikari can initiate.
2b) That a kanistha adhikari cannot initiate.
3a) That he rejects a ritvik system in toto.
3b) But he accepts the ritvik system that Srila Prabhupada set up both for his
presence and for after his departure.
4a) That he rejects a system based on the fact that there is no precedence
for such a system.
4b) That he accepts the ritvik system Srila Prabhupada set up in his presence
even though there is no precedence for such.
5a) He states that the initiating guru must be 'living' in the 'eyesight' of
the disciple.
5b) He accepts that one can be initiated even if the guru is not in the 'eyesight'
of the disciple by ordering an officiator to act on his behalf from another
continent.
6a) That the standard system of disciplic succession in our sampradaya involves
every disciple initiating on his own initiative.
6b) That a system of only appointing 11 officiating acaryas is also bona fide.
It should be noted that we have only looked at one brief exchange between Narayana
Maharaja and a member of the GBC. Yet even in such a short text we have found
many serious discrepancies. It may be that Maharaja or his followers can justify
his views on the basis of teachings outside of Srila Prabhupada. But it should
be clear to the reader that no amount of justification will make Narayana Maharaja's
teachings the same as Srila Prabhupada's - and that is what is at issue here.
Most significantly we have shown how Narayana Maharaja admits that not only did Srila Prabhupada appoint officiating acaryas to perform initiations for after his departure, but that Srila Prabhupada actually personally revealed this intention to him when he was ill in Vrindavan. Srila Prabhupada defined 'officiating acarya' as meaning the same as 'ritvik' - both on the May 28th tape, and in the July 9th letter that refers back to the May 28th tape. Thus by Maharaja's own words we learn that Srila Prabhupada told him he wanted to remain as the initiating acarya for ISKCON. Hence there is no need for any ISKCON devotee to seek diksa from Narayana Maharaja, since he agrees that only Srila Prabhupada should be giving diksa within ISKCON.
In light of all the above we would humbly suggest that whatever Maharaja's spiritual credentials, and we are sure they exceed our own many times over; as aspiring followers of Srila Prabhupada, wishing to remain chaste to his teachings, His Holiness Narayan Maharaja is not someone we can take guidance from. Respect from a distance has to be the only safe policy in this instance. We hope His Holiness will forgive any offence as none was intended.
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