Srila Prabhupada complains


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His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami (Srila Prabhupada) said, on
November 8th, 1977, that he was being given poison. After he first reported
that he was being poisoned, his secretary then asked: why did he say that?
Therefore it was very clear, from the beginning of this conversation, that
Srila Prabhupada had conclusively complained that he was being given poison.

The secretary then discussed; that he and another secretary had been
talking about a "Shankara guru" who had been poisoned in the past. And
Srila Prabhupada added, "My Guru Maharaja also [was poisoned in the
1930s]." The idea that saints are sometimes assassinated by poison was
therefore also conclusively established.

The secretary then said that he should not allow "anyone else" to cook for
Srila Prabhupada. Yet, it seems that only the leaders, such as the
secretary in Vrindavana, were in charge of the water, medicine and cooking?
If not, "who else" was cooking for Srila Prabhupada?

Subsequent testimony from a devotee present at this time states: That Srila
Prabhupada had requested his sister, named Pisima, to purchase all of his
cooking ingredients at the market, and to cook for him. Srila Prabhupada
had told her that this was because he was being poisoned.

Srila Prabhupada also reported that he was "experiencing mental distress."
The doctor said that his heartbeat was normal, so what could be the cause
of his "distress"? Srila Prabhupada then said that his condition could not
have been improved with "ten medicines" [because he was being poisoned]?

Then Srila Prabhupada again re-stated that he was being given poison [in
Hindi]. "Vahi baat, ke koi hamko poison kiya." This can be translated as:
"The same thing" [which was used to kill other gurus], "someone has
poisoned me." This statement was immediately confirmed, and re-stated in
English, by a devotee who was present:

Devotee: Someone gave him poison here.
Secretary: Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him?
Devotee: Yes. [From: "Conversations" Vol. 36 page 367]

Therefore, the statement was again confirmed by a secretary, and again
confirmed by another eye-witness. The doctor then said, if Srila Prabhupada
had said [that he is being poisoned] then it must be true. The doctor then
elaborated that Prabhupada’s poisoning was certainly possible, because
another guru [in the Shankara line] had been given broken glass in his
food, as a means of killing this guru. The most obvious question here is:
Why has the GBC suppressed these tapes for the past 20 years?

MURDER CASE CITED. Then, the discussion moved on to a "murder by poison"
case in Calcutta: a husband had poisoned his wife. Why was a famous "murder
by poison" case now being discussed? Isn’t the parallel clear; a poison
"murder," and Srila Prabhupada’s being murdered--by poison?

HEALTHY COW WILL DIE. Then another secretary confirmed that a doctor had
just said that Srila Prabhupada’s small, closed-in room would have made a
healthy cow sick. Srila Prabhupada had made numerous requests to be taken
to Goverdhan, to Calcutta, to Mayapura, or on "parikrama," but instead he
was kept in this small confined room? Srila Prabhupada himself said he
wanted "fresh air." The doctor confirmed that the situation with his room
was itself unhealthy.

BULLOCK CART REFUSED. On November 10th, 1977, an arrangement was being made
to take Srila Prabhupada out on a bullock cart, which he said would
definitely cure him. Yet a secretary protested and said this was "suicide."
Srila Prabhupada replied that if he went out [on parikrama] and died, that
would be like Rama [God] killing him, but if he stayed there, then Ravana
[a demon] would be killing him. Who is the Ravana [or Ravanas] he referred to?

Maybe he just wanted to move--to get away from--his dark, confined small
room, his food, and whom else? A few other factors: We have obtained the
opinion a very learned and elderly Ayurvedic doctor, and he has confirmed
that Srila Prabhupada had the "physical characteristics" of a person who
had been poisoned. There is also a strange account in the "Conversations,"
wherein Srila Prabhupada was given an allopathic medicine, which he
specifically said he did not want. He then became very ill. There is also
an account about his being given another medicine which Srila Prabhupada
had also said he did not want. Yet the leaders kept insisting that this was
"makara-dhvaja," even after Srila Prabhupada had said this
was--not--"makara-dhvaja." Moreover Srila Prabhupada had said this
"medicine" was making him sick. Still, some of the leaders kept insisting
he should take more A secretary came in to give Srila Prabhupada some
"medicine" and he said, "This is poison."

Srila Prabhupada said on November 3, 1977, "This is my only request, that
at the last stage don’t torture me and put me to death. So, I am not eating


Srila Prabhupada said that his guru, Srila Saraswati Thakura, had been
poisoned. A motivated "follower" had killed his guru in order to usurp the
assets of the post 1937 Gaudiya Matha. Worse, this motivated follower, and
others, declared that they were now "living guru successors" to Srila
Saraswati Thakura. Srila Prabhupada: "As soon as he learns that guru
maharaja is dead, now I am so advanced I can KILL GURU and I become guru.
Then he is finished." [August 16th, 1976]

In short, both the guru poisoner’s party, and those who usurped the worship
of their guru, are described herein as "guru killers." In the Gaudiya Matha
many people claimed to be "guru successors," and in ISKCON many people also
claimed to be gurus. Thus, a few preliminary questions are in order:


1) Why didn’t the leaders, who had just heard Srila Prabhupada say that he
was being poisoned, immediately investigate his water, food and medicine
sources? Isn’t this a normal thing to do?

2) Why wasn’t it immediately determined: who was in charge of these items?

3) Why weren’t any samples of the above items immediately collected up for

4) Why weren’t Srila Prabhupada’s food, medicine and water sources
immediately changed?

5) The leaders present also had access to the best analysis labs in the
world. For example, they could have brought samples back to Europe, or the
USA, for express processing, yet no one did this? And haven’t the same
leaders subsequently spent hundreds and thousands on their own travel and
medical expenses?

6) Why weren’t any tests or investigations made immediately after November,

7) Why weren’t the layman devotees, those who were present in Vrindavana in
1977, informed that Srila Prabhupada had just said he has been poisoned?
Perhaps some of them could have helped, but none of them even knew what was
being discussed? Why have the leaders intentionally kept devotees in the dark?

8) Why wasn’t Srila Prabhupada’s complaint of his being poisoned publicly
addressed by the GBC just after 1977? Why wasn’t a formal and public
investigation made? And why hasn’t the GBC allowed this topic to be
discussed--in public--since 1977? Why has the secrecy continued? Is this a

9) Why hasn’t someone like Bhakti Charu swami ever translated the full
versions of the "poisoning" tapes, since he was present when this was
taking place, according to eye-witnesses from 1977? And why has the GBC not
translated the Hindi and Bengali portions of these conversations--ever?

10) In 1990, when parts of the "poison" discussion were first published by
the "Bhaktivedanta Archives," why didn’t the GBC, at least by this late
time, demand an investigation? Instead, we have the GBC’s continued silence
on this issue, or far worse, the GBC’s de facto policy of continued
banning, beatings, harassment, death threats, vilification,
excommunication, and even murder--for "asking questions"?

11) Why did the GBC suppress the distribution of the 1990 "Archives"
conversations even when they finally were published, and instead they
promote items like a GBC guru’s writings about: his constipation and the
[female lovers of Krishna known as the] gopis? Many scholars think this
writing is offensive?

12) Who was in charge of the custody of the "poison" tapes during and after
November of 1977?


13) Why did the leaders suppress Srila Prabhupada’s order to bring ALL of
his devotees to Vrindavana in mid-1977? Why didn’t they want the devotees
to be present, as Srila Prabhupada had requested?

14) Did the individuals who had control of the "poison" information have a
vested interest in hiding this from the devotees? Since there is clearly
"potential criminal activity," isn’t "covering it up" also criminal?

15) Would not many more devotees have presumed that Srila Prabhupada had
been poisoned if the tapes had been made available? Most of the people who
hear the tapes now are convinced he was poisoned.

16) Why is a Houston, Texas based follower of a guru recently stating that
all of this talk of poison is "a concoction"? Why would Srila Prabhupada
"concoct" that he was being poisoned?


17) What are the names and current positions in ISKCON of all of the
devotees who were present at the time this "poisoning," and subsequent


18) Have any of the people who were in charge hiding the tapes [and
harassing or suppressing the investigation] benefited by gaining a position
of worship and control of assets in ISKCON after Srila Prabhupada’s
departure? Many devotees think there is a connection here?

19) Why are there periods of time, such as Srila Prabhupada’s visit to
London, where no tapes are currently available? Did Srila Prabhupada--not
speak--for three or four weeks in August and September of 1977? Have some
tapes been intentionally hidden, lost or destroyed? If not, where are they


20) Were the symptoms Srila Prabhupada had in England corresponding to any
type poisoning, such as Mercury? For example, we are told that his
inability to pass urine is a symptom of Mercury poisoning.

21) The Kaiviraj also said that he may have had mercury posing, was this
ever investigated? If so, what is the result of the forensic studies of
Srila Prabhupada’s medicines and food from 1977, and if it was not
investigated, why not? Why did some GBC change the subject when this was
brought up in 1977?

22) What is the officially listed cause of death for Srila Prabhupada?


23) Tamal Krishna said that he was criticized for killing Srila Prabhupada
[in Topanga in 1980]?

24) A devotee related a conversation he had with Tribhuvanatha dasa.

23) Tribhuvanatha had said that Bhakti Charu told him that Srila Prabhupada
did not want Tamal Krishna to handle his medicine anymore.

25) Doesn’t Srila Prabhupada say, "A thief will say ‘I am not a thief’?"

26) A prominent Gaudiya Matha sannyasi was told by a woman follower that he
should refuse to visit with an ISKCON "guru," because, the woman said "he
poisoned his own guru, and he will poison you as well."


27) Why did Srila Prabhupada say "don’t keep me locked up," when he asked
to go on parikrama?

28 ) Why did a Mayapura based GBC say to Srila Prabhupada: that a doctor
had said that Prabhupada’s cramped room would have also made him unhealthy?
And since some GBC knew this, why was he not taken out of that room as he
requested repeatedly? Why weren’t his unhealthy facilities changed?

29) Why was Srila Prabhupada prevented from going on tour [parikrama] to
Govardhana as he requested?

30) Why did the GBC glorify the guru poisoner of the 1930s in their 1990
"ISKCON Journal"?


31) Why does the GBC NOW forbid discussions of any of these "controversies"
at ISKCON centers?


31) Why is it that the same persons who hid the tapes where Srila
Prabhupada said he was being poisoned, also forwarded that some homosexuals
and even pedophiles had been "appointed" as gurus? And weren’t there child
molestations which resulted from the GBC’s enforced worship of pedophiles?


Srila Prabhupada said, "So there may be attempt like that [as attempts were
made to kill Krishna]. And Lord Jesus Christ was killed. So they may KILL
ME ALSO." (1976 Honolulu) Also, in Srila Prabhupada’s astrological chart,
it said that he would have potentially fatal dangers from "juniors or
subordinates." Srila Prabhupada also said that if he was forced to take
medicine he did not want "Then you’ll kill me."


1) CALIFORNIA. To "The Secretary of State for the State of California" to
protest: That Mr. Jayadvaita Swami (Jay Israel) should not be allowed to
act a trustee for any California charity or non-profit corporation and
especially for the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. This is because Mr. Israel
says that ISKCON’s gurus may engaged in "illicit sex with both men, women
and possibly children as well." And thus he, and his colleagues, associates
and supporters, by their own admission, do not represent the Krishna faith.
No bona fide Krishna guru has ever engaged in child molestation or similar

2) INDIA. We also want to finally resolve the issue about Srila
Prabhupada’s complaint that he was being poisoned. Please write to us and
find out how you can help us convince the Indian Government to open up this
case and begin an investigation.

We thank you very much for reading this paper. If you have any additional
testimonies, accounts or helpful ideas how to proceed with this information
please feel free to contact us. If you think you know of anyone who has
benefited from suppressing the story of Srila Prabhupada’s being poisoned,
please let us know. Please copy it and send it out to all of the persons
you think might be interest in the Hare Krishna religion. OM TAT SAT.

[The Prabhupada-anugas]

Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!

All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!