Personal
witness account of Jayapataka's character
(from his female disciple)
In the late 80s I travelled with sad guru Jayapataka.
I considered my self blessed by causeless mercy and good fortune for such an honour. Over the following 2 years my faith in Iskcon gurus, leaders and even the science of KC was dissolved gradually and systematically.
Some cold facts of Jayapataka's non-acharya, guru- or faithful disciple-profile where made very plain to me... said cold facts include...
Jayapataka does not chant his rounds, for days on end he wouldnt pick up his bead bag or clicker...
Jayapataka was incapable of pronouncing the words Hare, Krishna and Rama, the GBC knows this and even assigned one of his disciples to sit and listen and then report, the report was in the negative. Even though the devotee was completely sold out to Jayapataka, he was honest. The only time JPS will pronounce the mantra clearly is, when making a big show, as in Mayapur when on the rare occasion of him turning up for japa period.
He will dominate the atmosphere, sitting on his ostentatious seating arrangement, calling out occasionally to "enliven everyone"...
While travelling, he would hardly ever attend the morning program, only making an entrance to give class, he would prepare for this by having a little read of comic book [folk tales and myths of India ] sourced from a Calcutta train station,
I never witnessed any study of Srila Prabhupada's books... On occasion he would fall asleep giving class...
He undoubtedly has an eating disorder and packs it away in a manner embarrassing to those with him in public. On the plane he would have 10 course take out feasts, and in meetings with non devotee professionals who where visibly shocked and disgusted, he would gorge himself on feasts personally served by his "servants" while others would have a simple lunch.
Maybe I was a little to sensitive to others reactions... he would have a young female disciple wash his kaupins regularly, [he doesn't wash his own, if there's some one else to do it]
He (Jayapataka) is violent, I
saw him beat a devotee round the face whilst on the Calcutta Rath Cart, he thought
it was his disciple but it turned out to be his godbrother...
I witnessed him give orders for gangs of fiery brahmacaris to go and sort various
problems out...
He threatened to "spill my blood" for
humbly expressing doubts over the contradictory behaviour I had seen, at first
he said he couldn’t remember anything then looking into my eyes pitifully told
me he thinks he has Alzheimer’s and doesn’t know what’s going on anymore...
He is regularly dishonest, to
many instances to write about here, but one example hails from our waiting in
line at the airport whereupon he lets rip with a huge **** everyone in the place
turned to look at him, his immediate reaction was to glare at me in a shaming
and blaming way.... he would fly into hellish rages and accuse those around of
causing all sorts of problems for which he was responsible...
There are many more examples of heartless and cruel behaviour regarding Jayapataka,
all of which I personally witnessed, [no need for hearsay and rumour for me to
fully realize he is not quite the pure devotee he would have us believe].
I don’t think they all need listing, maybe if comes to court, something like Nurenburg,
I will be there.
His main thing is psychic vampirism, a major method is public shaming,
he would do this in crowded airports sometimes screaming and baring his teeth
like a monster or at least in front of a group of devotees, such as in New Talavan
where he shamed an innocent young girl for not bowing down before him "what’s
up ******* don’t you pay your obeisance’s to Sannyasi any more" he said it
so mean, and all the other devotees give her disgusted threatening looks, this
was a young child standing outside her home just watching the devotees go by.
His idea of healing the problems devotees have in their relationships was to side
with one party and gang up on the other so there is, so to speak, a winner, he
just caused more trouble wherever he went...
One last thing to finish it for me, was when I tried to forget it all and take
it as my own faultfinding. I returned to Mayapur in the late 90s to get "purified",
he was giving class [no matter what the original topic was he would only harp
on about his right to be worshiped]
I was sitting to his side when it appeared that his features had changed, and
he looked a bit scary, as soon as this entered my mind he stopped speaking and
slowly turned to face me, this I swear is no exaggeration, his face
was fully demonic and filled with wrath, it even changed colour and became
grey with red eyes, he knew I could see him and didn’t seem to like it at all.
I wasn’t really phased with his glaring rage and thought of him as a real unfortunate
who has got himself in a right tangle. I am sure that one will not hold up in
court.... but I believe I had real darshan... what would Omkara or Acharya or
Mahatma do after such experiences? would they still follow blindly? or could they
perhaps face the truth that these people are posing as gurus and pure devotees
while reaping a terrible carnage in the hearts and lives of sincere souls?
they are the greatest ********s.
It is all there right in your face. Do you really not get it! Like you guys, many
of the Bengali devotees consider him the Acharya of Iskcon, he does not seem
to mind that misconception at all, they also think he is selflessly travelling
and preaching the science of KC all over the world, not true. He plays this role
as his image of a world acharya, when in fact one of the main reasons he travels
outside of Mayapur and India is to keep away from those natives in his zone, because,
quote "they drive me craaazzy" and collect more money and unwitting
disciples to enforce his own little deluded empire.
He takes complete advantage of the natural devotional
nature of the Bengalis to live out this grandiose delusional fantasy without a
care in the world as to his own madness [I for one am convinced he is seriously
in need of psychological help].
Devotees sometimes cite his service history as proof of his divines, not it seems
realizing that there are many other unsung heroes who worked harder and more devotionally
than him on those very projects he takes so much credit for. The difference is,
they are humble vaisnavas and therefore shun any wonderful displays of "specialness"
and showbottleism within the society of devotees.
By nature he seems to be a ruthless politician at heart and would think
nothing of having someone beaten or [if he thought he could get away with it]
killed if they stand between him and his fame, even those who now defend
him or similar regimes.
He comes first, he has to be the biggest best and baddest, or he gets very
upset indeed, he runs on image, take that out of the picture all you have left
is some one in severe need of clinical attention.
Am I straying from the facts here?? This is 14 years on for me and I am still
disturbed and troubled. The GBC etc. know all this and much, much more but
still he reigns. What a f*****up useless cult.
Last night I had a dream of Jayapataka [it inspired me to post again] he came
calling at my place in a travelling Vyasasana mobile [really] and wanted me to
go with him again, I agreed thinking "wow my guru has come for me personally",
I went to get my things from my room and found a whole flock of birds had come
in through the window, all types really colour full and lively, in particular
there where lots of humming bird types, so beautiful and delicate... they allowed
me to catch some of them to show to Jayapataka, I held them carefully in my closed
palms and was just about to reveal them to Jayapataka, when he quickly and forcefully
blew on my hands, all the life energy which I felt fluttering and vibrating in
my palms left. As I opened them all that remained where lifeless and featherless
bodies... (any dream analysts out there?) maybe more later....
yours desiring love and peace... sri fruitcake apada
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Dasdasi: I think your dream is pretty obvious even from the dream itself as well as everything you said in both your posts. Certainly you know you should never go anywhere with JP either in body or mind. In your dream he killed those birds in your hands just by blowing. If he could blow them to death what would happen if you got any closer? Stay away from Jayapataka and some of the other ones as well. Some of them put up good external shows but inside they are just like Jayapataka.
Nitaicandra: If indeed it is true that you had a special vision of Jayapataka,
then maybe you saw his subtle body (aura), and also his original, real (?) features
(theoretically supposing he is a demoniac creature envious of Prabhupada, while
leaving the possibility open that none of the above is true). So if he really
is a demon who has been exposed by your subtle vision, then also many claims made
by other people might also be true (poison issue, takeover plans, enforced ritualistic
jackboot-licking , orchestrated child-abusing by cheerleader-pooja as good as
jesus qualified to assist radha-krishna in divine lilas, book changes ...). That
gives rise to the question if he has not incarnated (among others) especially
for that purpose (usurping and destroying Prabhupada's mission) ?
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Omkara: the anecdotes you have mentioned all sound very out
of character to me and borderline delusional. I don't believe them.
Really? how much personal experience
do you have to be such an expert on his character? as for my borderline delusions,
I would say they where mostly confined to accepting false gurus [3 altogether]
and thinking the upper echelons gave a flying f---- about my spiritual well being,
please clarify which anecdotes seem delusional and I may clarify in return, don’t
forget Jayapataka at least at one time had more faith in tantric ghost busting
to solve just about any problem than in the holy name>, however, since they
are your personal recollections, the only one I can attest to be wrong is
> he was giving class [no matter
what the original topic was he would only harp on about his right to be worshiped]----
how can you attest? where you there? I was referring to a specific time period,
the same time period when he led a march of around 300 'disciples' on the temple
in Mayapur when his right to be worshipped was in question by the GBC, also in
this same period he read out, somewhat resentfully, an apology from the GBC concerning
the original 11 admitting they had committed 'the greatest offence to the devotees
of Iskcon' this was just after Harikesh split with a ton of $$$ and the heat was
on. Its not a lie, I don’t need to print lies, I am making a great effort in my
life to live with truth. Its not easy for us to do that, but I do realise if I
lie about such serious things I am setting myself up for more torment. This is
an obvious lie. (yeah, I'm sure all he did in every class was talk about how he
should be worshipped. That sounds real credible.) I suspect that the rest of what
you have written is equally motivated.
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What I have written about Jayapataka is motivated by what? Truth and freedom
are my motivational aspirations. If I can be supportive of those with similar
directions by exposing blatant hypocrisy then I feel satisfied,
I have seen some of my friends go crazy, kill themselves and come to hate with
a vengeance the cult which fu***d them up, so much they need to take medication
to keep there sanity.
You may be living in a bit of denial if you don’t mind me saying such, denigrating
others pain by dismissing them as delusional liars is on par with the hurtful
cult dynamics currently employed in Iskcon, what exactly is your motivation?
Regarding my experience of seeing Jayapataka as demon-like for a few moments
- I don’t see him as full blown demon specifically incarnating to disrupt Srila
Prabhupada’s mission.
He was a young extremely intelligent man with great [material] future ahead of
him he gave it all up after reading about Buddha and was on route to India when
he met the devotees and surrendered to SP, he applied himself as only he can in
a focussed obsessive way, then one day he was told he was a guru [not by SP though]
so he applies himself to that in similar 100% fashion.
His whole id is that of guru on the same level of Srila Prabhupada. Now that
unfortunately, is delusional. The stresses and strains of maintaining that
particular illusion and receiving and expecting massive lavish worship would warp
any sane mind no matter how smart, is it not?
His demonic visage which I glimpsed in all its wrath was, I believe a manifestation
of extreme attachment, threatening any who would challenge, and its sort of understandable
to me, that’s why I consider him as "in a right tangle" that’s what
happens to all of us when we are implicated in deception, no doubt, this is nature
how things work.
Omkara do you think I am the only 'servant' to have witnessed these things
and rejected him as a guru? Do you have idea of the turnover rate of his disciples?
I personally do not hate Jayapataka or any one [I don’t think] I have seen the
man behind the madness and I could really get on with him, but at the moment I
consider him trapped in false world.
As I have ventured to speak my mind in all honesty please refrain from replying
with more insults and perhaps furnish us with your personal experience and again,
your motivations.
yours desiring love and peace... sri fruitcake apada
http://www.harekrsna.org/jayapataka-hist.htm