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(1) LOS ANGELES GBC MEETING (or PADA's comedy moment?)

Once again it appears that the GBC's "fire brigade" is assembling to put out ISKCON's fires and fix "the problems." Yet the real "problem" is that the GBC has already had so many regional, national and international meetings -- which came to no positive conclusion since 1977. And all this despite that the GBC has even had "expert instructions" from people like Sridhara Maharaja and Narayana Maharaja, people who have supported similar homosexual "guru" projects in the past. Prabhupada says that their "gurus," who are having illicit sex with disciples, are de facto child molesters. Yet their "advice" failed to fix "the problems." Yes boys and girls, they are saying that their homosexual gurus (who orchestrated murders of those of us who dissented) are -- part of the bona fide vaisnava guru lineage and thus are somehow related to the activities of -- the residents of Vaikuntha? They are part of the parampara.

Yet these poor creatures are seemingly not making much progress despite: meeting after meeting after meeting, and despite "rubber stamps of approval" from Sridhara, Narayan, BV and BP Puri maharajas, ad nauseum? Notice: at the time of Srila Prabhupada's presence many bona fide scholars endorsed his guru position, but most bona fide scholars are notably lacking in coming to support the GBC's gurus? The GBC has only been able to find some isolated Gaudiya Matha folks like Sridhara and Narayan Maharajas to endorse them and not actual well rounded scholars. So a lack of "meetings" is not the GBC's problem, it is a lack of proper philosophy and implementation.

And so the GBC, and to some extent their Gaudiya Matha advisors, are sort of "stuck in a rut" of: crisis and emergency meetings; problem solving meetings; experts on management meetings; dozens of ad hoc commitees to fix ISKCON's problems meetings; ghost busting the guru meetings; saving our GBC gurus from tantric curses meetings; bad vibhuti (which was actually dangerous psycho tropic drugs) meetings; and lets not forget their GBC "gurus" are sometimes having "illicit sex with men and/or women and/or children" cover-up meetings; ad infinitum, so much so, that not many people even care what the GBC's "resolutions" conclude at the end of these so-called "meetings." Worse, the GBC has also made so many "promises" at these meetings to "fix" many of these issues, but they never seem to do that? It seems always "business as usual," "maintain the status quo" read: -- the money goes into our pockets so we can buy Svavasa a BMW, Hridayananda's Town Car, or whatever it is, it is a business. Let us thus look at a few "random samples" of some of the people who attend their big shot meetings. This might clue us in as to why their meetings always seem to come to naught:

HRDAYANANDA SWAMI: One of the last three (?) of "the original eleven gurus" left. And he was Tamal's best friend and confidante. Isn't Tamal a major player in the poison case? The poisoning of anyone is sneaky, period, it is heinous and insidiuous, and it is thus worse than Satan who is more open and forward with his program. It is that simple. And Howard is drinking from the same cup of Prabhupada's blood -- as Tamal? The good news here is that now we know why the "Sri Isopanisad" says that these guru imitators "are destined for the most obnoxious regions of hell" -- and they are pushed down to lower and lower species by the Lord so they will not hear about the Lord. These verses are simply crackling to life thanks to this crew.

Of course nevermind this, we also find that Hrdayananda's spiritual "advisors" like the Narayana Maharaja crew/ Jadurani -- and Sridhara Maharaja crew/ Tripurari -- also posted their own "glorification of Tamal" after he was squashed by a fifty ton truck, just like Hrdayananda glorified Tamal's "departure by truck" episode. They all admire Tamal as their idea of a great devotee and guru? Worse, the Narayana Maharaja crew wrote this -- after they admitted that Tamal was implicated in the poison case? "We love Judas and Pontius Pilate yes we do, for we are all wanna-be's of them too." The founder fathers of the poisoner and molester empire are their "great devotees" and "gurus"? And thus scriptures say they too will go to the same planet where their gurus go. Bhagavad Gita says this: they go to the same planet as their worshipped persons and gurus. They will all be down there having a big party with their endorsed "guru," Mr. Tamas guna Herzig, at least says scriptures?

Kamsa also had many supporters, advisors and hangers on, but so did Hitler for that matter. And so Tamal has had his advisors and confidantes like Hrdayananda, Narayan Maharaja and many other advisors and supporters of his deviant worship project. So the "poisoning of Prabhupada" is on many levels, maybe arsenic on one level, but for sure they all said that homosexual pedophiles are his guru successors. So this is simply another form of poison. Of course, like post-1977 Hrdayananda, Narayana Maharaja also endorses the founders of the 1936 homosexual pooja and he still says "there is nothing wrong" with that project in his recent "Guru Tattva" booklet. Indeed, a CURRENT follower of Narayana Maharaja named "Haripada" recently told us that he also agrees "there is nothing wrong" with the 1936 homosexual guru project, just as Narayana Maharaja states. We asked, "That means you are saying, it is OK to worship sex amongst men as 'Vishnupada'? A person like Jesus"? And Haripada threw up his hands and said, "well if that is what he says then yes." So this is all the same, Hrdayananda and Narayana Maharaja and so on. Even the gay people in San Francisco do not publicly say "there is nothing" wrong with linking homosexual activity to a person like Jesus, they have a little dignity and respect for God.

And just like Hrdayananda, later Narayan Maharaja endorsed "the re-instators of Bhavananda" guru regime, more homosexual gurus, in 1986. And NM was having tea and crumpets with homosexual guru founder fathers like Tamal for 10 years or more. And then again Narayana Maharaja was trying to bridge together Krishna and His best devotees, "the gopis" -- and Tamal's homosexual pedophile guru project, and again Hrdayananda was pounding the drum for Tamal during that era as well. This type of thing, mixing of the gopis and abominable people who promote sodomy and child molesters as gurus, is also described in scriptures, as is the result. As Prabhupada says of these false gopi lila preachers, they think they are in Radha Kunda, but they are in Naraka kund. Of course the sahajiya babajis are saints compared to guru poisoners and promoters of pedophiles as gurus, usually these "babajis" are more innocent of these more gross criminal actions.

Hrdayananda also pushed Pradyumna out of his God given post of "ISKCON's Sanskrit editor," a post given to him by Prabhupada. Why? So that Mr. Hrdayananda could hijack and attack Prabhupada's "Srimad Bhagavatam" project. Why? So he could write in his own version of the Bhagavatam -- the glories of Kirtanananda and Bhavananda, two of the GBC gurus Howard mentions in his Bhagavatam as Howie's wonderful examples of acharyas, since both of them are homosexual pedophiles. So Hrdayananda wanted to glorify his "homosexual pedophiles as gurus project" and he wanted to add that -- to the "eternally pure" Bhagavatam. And for this crime alone, sabotaging Krishna's scriptures, the scriptures say he is known as a "veda vada rata." Again, the future of these people is very dark indeed as are their supporters like NM. The good news here is that we would not trade one hundred billion years of our bad karma for one second of their bad karma. Writing a "scripture" that homosexual pedophiles are Krishna's successors in a hatchet job changed up Bhagavatam means, we feel very sorry for these guys. No one can save them.

According to a follower of Narayana Maharaja, Hrdayananda was also recently licking Narayana Maharaja's toes, saying that he (and hence the GBC) should have consulted with Narayana Maharaja over the GBC's version of "the Srimad Bhagavatam"? Why? Narayan Maharaja also said that Tamal's homosexual pedophile guru lineage is bona fide? "Sodomy pooja" is simply wunnaful boys and girls. Why? In sum they all wanted ISKCON's children to worship their child molester guru lineage. The odious statement glorifying homosexual pedophiles as acharyas was in the GBC's Bhagavatam while Narayana Maharaja was endorsing them at that time anyway? So that was their plan all along, and they all crowed against us in unison when we protested their sodomy worship project. Narayana Maharaja even says we non-sodomite worshippers are "ritvik poison" since he does not like those of us who do not worship his anus sex guru projects, which also attack children mind you. At least these sodomy pooja guys stick together, but how will that help ISKCON?

So what is the difference, the GBC's -- or -- Narayana Maharaja's "Bhagavatam conclusion," who cares, they all agreed with this sodomy pooja policy? Howard Redneck is also famous for hanging out with many ladies, as we have personally eye witnessed, which is again, forbidden for sannyasis. No wonder Narayana Maharaja greets folks like this sodomy pooja lineage advocate a.k.a. Hridayananda with loving exchanges and he refuses to even meet with us non-sodomite worshippers? He likes fellow poisoner/ molester beejer guru lineage/ women associating sannyasis, birds of a feather, and he dislikes anyone who wants to worship a non child molester guru lineage, like us Prabhupadanugas? And Narayana Maharaja was told by his guru Keshava Maharaja that he was unqualified to initiate people, just like the GBC were also told they were unqualified to initiate by their guru, so they are renegades to their own guru and what to speak of vedic culture in general -- which does not support their child molester guru projects?

Srila Prabhupada: "There are many renegades from the Brahma-sampradaya whose only business is to make men more forgetful of the Lord and thus entangle them more and more in material existence. Such persons are never dear to the Lord, and the Lord sends them deeper into the darkest region of matter so that such envious demons may not be able to know the Supreme Lord."

This makes PADA feel there may be some substance to the rumors that Narayan Maharaja was recently being dressed by young women, and that he always likes to have young girls in the front leading the kirtans etc. There seems to be some Howard Resnick and Narayana Maharaja chemistry here? They are birds of a feather? They look lovingly in each other's eyes and gladly proclaim their molester beejer guru lineage? Hrdayananda was one of the people who stood up to defend keeping Bhavananda (as homosexual pedophile) as guru in 1986, while just at the same time Narayana Maharaja was emerging as their "rasika acharya" darling. Of the same baby raper guru lineage? A coincidence? Are they still working together? Apparently so. So this is the main problem, the GBC is infested with these bogus molester guru ideas and instead of getting away from their Gaudiya Matha sources of these deviant ideas, they keep wandering back there? So they have to first of all make a policy that all bogus Gaudiya Matha's ideas, and the foot draggers who keep going back there (or those bringing in NM through the "back door" like Virabahu and Karta) they have to be removed from ISKCON's management circle forthwith.

BADRINARAYAN DASA: Most of the ISKCON children were being starved and molested under his watch, and certainly they were not educated, while Badri was viciously endorsing the child molester guru lineage that was oppressing these children. Meanwhile, Badri's own son gets -- a paid college education? In sum, Badri was too busy stuffing his own fat chubby face with ghee soaked huge gulabs to notice that the children under his regime had to eat "days old moldy outmeal" until their bones stuck out, and indeed some did not survive his death camps. But why should he care since he is as fat as a pig in a poke? He proudly says he has "always" been a leader, and we agree, he is the leader of the Auswitch for kids era. As Sulochana used to say, guys like this are "boot lickers for the butt busters." To his credit, Badri once wrote a paper saying that "Prabhupada should be the guru for the newcomers," but then he slipped back to backing his old pedophile pooja project. He also says we have to "beware" when we get an ISKCON guru (from him?) since you might get one that he recommends -- and get yer back side poked in the shower? Ouch! In sum, watch your front, your back, your sides, your wallet, ... when you meet the Jesus-like saints supported by Badrinarayan dasa. Then Badri complains, well we have a nice hokey poker guru lineage, so how come the Prabhupada worshippers never come here? Duh!

SATSVARUPA DASA GOSWAMI: Another one of the sarva deva maya "sum totals of the demigods" conspicuous by his absence? He writes that he is walking on the beach in Ireland "kicking dead sea gulls with my new big rubber boots." Sounds like a kindergarten class -- for morons? Important preaching eh? He also writes about his various weird terrifying nightmares, and his ex-girl friends from High School etc., that PADA types never get? He is haunted by ghosts? And he writes, "The more I chant Hare Krishna -- the drier it gets." Yet he is still a GBC guru? Why is this type of a person, an evidently haunted and dry as a bone soul, a guy who is overwhelemd with his new rubber boots, still considered as a pure devotee? And why is he not doing practical managing, simultaneously, he is being paid and maintained as a leader?

Why is ISKCON wasting funds supporting mindless dry chanters and kickers of dead sea gulls as -- their leaders? Of course if we wanted money for some project, no, there are no funds since we have to pay to maintain Satsvarupa and print his wacky books? And lets not forget he wrote "Prayers to Spiderman Shoes," "My Life Of Prayer" (which was also insane depicting his banging his head on the floor) and this was banned by some other GBC, and other wackiness? He is also writing: that he needs to get enemas to pass stools, while simultaneously he is describing -- the colors of the gopis saris on the same page? The gopis? Their saris? And, "My enema"? So he is writing, "The importance of my stools -- and the gopis saris," which is, well -- insane at best, highly offensive is more likely?

Again, this is all coming from Narayana Maharaja since Satsvarupa was saying he was describing "A class about the gopis saris given by BV Narayana Maharaja." NM likes to talk about "the gopis" to people who are meditating on their "stool passing enema bags." How swell can you get here folks? What do you expect from the anus sex guru lineage though, really? Even the karmis are more advanced, they write, "My trip to the beach with Rover my dog," they never mix "conjugal love of God" and "my wonderful stool passing experience"? Do they pilgrims? Well what can we say, if you mix your stools with Krishna and His gopis, you are a pure devotee and even a guru according to these bone heads. There is another problem, that the GBC says no one can visit Narayana Maharaja, but folks like Ravindra are selling books by Satsvarupa, who always mentions that the GBC are -- visiting Narayana Maharaja? Of course this is merely one of countless similar hypocrisy evidences and contradictions in their process.

Her Grace (?) MALATI DASI: (formerly Melanie Speerstra) I dunno, first she was alleged to have some big dildos (sex toys) found in her baggage while she was travelling with her "female companion." Umm, I think there were reports of some big "strap on" devices and so on. Then, she was alleged to be hanging out with that goofy and very offensive ex-sannyasi "Prithu pootra," a person who had some amazing doubts about the existence of Krishna. And rumor is that during that era -- she got AIDS? This was also her "wearing mini skirts and boots" phase, some have said. She is very much connected to the New Vrindavana project and is apparently friends with all of Kirtanananda's ex-henchmen, the defenders of homosexual pedophile pooja. Many neighbors in West Virginia say, there are still bodies of some of the Hare Krishna's buried in those hills. So her guru lineage is sort of like a nice "Friday the 13th" movie. Watch that ax Eugene! Yes its true, some offenders "disappeared" when the criticized Kirtananda, Krishna took them away! No, they were bashed over the head with a shovel, and then chopped up and buried in the hills, ya silly!

I wrote to Malati once and she replied, "We have no interest in these things, do not send here," which is of couse what the Narayana Maharaja team says? Well yes, she has no interest in worshipping Prabhupada and jettisoning her homosexual pedophile guru lineage? No kidding. A few women who stayed at her "ashram" told me she acts like an imperious dictator, sort of like "Ramesvara in a skirt," if anyone can imagine that. Seems another species of what Sulochana called: "zeig heil zombies from the hills of West Vriginia." No wonder she is at the top of the GBC's list for "best manager on the planet." And how did ya guess, we hear that Malati is trying to promote the idea that "there should be some women (GBC) gurus." Maybe her? Well maybe, but is she the type of person who should be promoted as "God's living successor on earth"? Moreover it would seem that with her cracker jack track record, she would rather be trying to help us promote Srila Prabhupada as the guru instead of various bozos and kinky sex fools, men or women? Meanwhile others simply say, she either popped just one too many LSD tabs or had some bad hash experiences? And I tell others, I recall Malati as a nice sweet girl and they say, well that was before, she has now become hatchet Annie. Ouch!

PRITHU DASA (Peter Brinkman) Yikes pilgrims! Here is a guy who was handed a booklet with a nice photo of Prabhupada on the cover and he said, "what is this SHIT"! Unquote. Well this is your guru! And you just called him a piece of shit? So he says, Prabhupada is shit, and no wonder, he is always licking the booties of his fellow sodomite pedophile guru lineage advocates. And lets not forget that Prithu was certified as guru at the recoronation of a known homosexual pedophile who was being worshipped as "Vishnupada" in 1986 while Narayana Maharaja smiled on in approval. And when Mr. Brinkman is not equating baby rapers with Krishna's feet, he is scratching marble deities with a razor, trying to remove the paint, making permanent scratches on the deity of Krishna. Why? Because he kicked out all the bona fide regular pujaris so he could go in there and be the hatchet man "pujari." Prithu has had some disagreements with the Narayan Maharaja crew in Vrindavana, saying they are deviants, apparently because Prithu's guru lineage wants to implement the use of Vaseline for their sodomy pooja?

Prithu sometimes says that Hansadutta was "praying for Prabhupada to die so he could sit in Prabhupada's seat," well Hansadutta left that seat and you are still on it -- aren't you Mr. Brinkman? He is also another person who sat back while all the kids were being molested and he (de facto) said, let us keep up the worship of homosexual pedophiles so the children can continue to be starved, beat and molested, and by me compromising with that I will be the next "worshipped guru of the universe." Prithu wanted a homosexual pedophile guru certificate and even a street dog would not accept that, having more sense and dignity than him. Prithu's son affectionately called "Maddy" made a nice movie (indirectly) about the mass molesting: "Burnt Ladhus." Good movie perhaps, except it points to the problem and totally evades the cause -- just like the GBC does. Yes, it is true the children were burnt, and Prithu was one of those pouring gasoline on the fire that burned these children because he compromised with and he still supports that baby raper guru lineage, the creators of the molester infrastructure. This is why a million meetings will not solve anything, because the root cause of "the troubles" has never been addressed, just like this "Burnt Ladhu" movie avoids the whole "cause."

Prithu vociferously participated when they re-instated a known homosexual pedophile as a guru and he joined with that team, and he is still saying the same thing, "Prabhupada worship" to cite Mr. Brinkman himself is "shit." He still says we all have to worship his pedophile baby raper guru lineage, since he has not one iota of remorse for his team's burning the (children) ladhus. Worse, he is so proud that he is a homosexual pedophile recoronation certified guru that he has even taken that odious lineage -- to Vrindavana to pollute the holy dham. His lineage mass molested the children EVEN there! -- while Mr. Brinkman was simply wondering, "Who cares about the kids, when are these molester beejers going to make me a member of their lineage? Let the ladhus get burned to toast, objecting to molester guru lineages is 'shit.'" Wunnaful. Of course people like Atreya Rsi said many years ago that this Prithu is a crazy man, so this is the policy, the crazy man is -- the guru?

RAVINDRA SWARUPA (Mr. Deadwhiler) Oh great, another Tamal fanatic, and a back door Narayana Maharaja groupie, and a person who was "certified as guru" at the recoronation of a known homosexual pedophile. Ravindra (along with Gaura Govinda swami) spoke on behalf of keeping Tamal as their guru when the Narayana Maharaja "gopi lila club" issue was brewing up in 1993. Ravindra has said that the reason their gurus are so bad is that they are mostly former hippies, ummm, so when did Srila Prabhupada say these former hippies are "gurus"? Ravindra was holding hands with Narayana Maharaja in 1990 when they said that Sridhara and Madhava (co-founders of the 1936 homosexual guru imbroglio) and Tirtha (another bogus guru that Prabhupada says is a cockroach) are gurus, in sum the founders of the Gaudiya Matha's deviations are their "gurus." Worse, this same Madhava stuck his finger in Prabhupada's face in 1971 and he said Prabhupada had to quit using the title of Prabhupada, and this is what Ravindra and NM have been endorsing, the people Prabupada said "might harm me physically." Swell. And reports are that the Philadelphia temple under Ravindra is -- empty, except for his family and a few clone heads.

SVAVASA DASA (Emil Beca) What can we say? He likes to maintain a bunch of snarling angry gangsters on the Watseka temple street. Svavasa is the leader of the "the hounds of hell" for the devotees so that if any "Prabhupada worshipper" happens by they can be threatened and maybe beaten up, since Svavasa loves nothing more in life than to "protect and serve" his baby raper guru lineage. And no wonder, they give him a nice apartment, nice big BMW car, nice everything. Again, Svavasa has always been living nicely, being maintained by the GBC, while the children under the GBC were being starved, beaten and molested. So these people simply do not have any feelings for any other living beings apart from no idea that there are thousands of victims to their policiy. And thus they are more condemned than the karmis, who feel great empathy for wronged persons.

The Bhagavatam has a nice picture of Svavasa types in the Fifth canto. A devotee is being beaten in one picture, and in the next window, that person who beat the devotee is being crushed through the rollers at Yamaraja's planet. This is the exact photo that describes exactly what Svavasa is all about. And the Bhagavatam says, since he harasses the vaishnavas, he will cry piteously in these rollers, but no one will hear him... and he will be put through the rollers over and over and over again. And that is just for harassing/ beating one devotee. And lets not forget that Svavasa is pals with the poisoner sabha, thus he is drinking from their cup of Prabhupada's blood. As for us, even if we have to live by eating smelly old shoe laces we shall, but we will never drink a fraction of a portion of a smidgen of a morsel of a drop of Prabhupada's blood from their cup. Neine danke! And this is all as it should be. Krishna keeps the guru's blood out of the hands of those who are repulsed by it, and He allows those who want it, to drink up, so that later no one can say, well I did not know? Phooey!

TIRTHARAJA DASA: The guy who collated the GBC's book "Not That I am Poisoned." When confronted about the validity his book he was quick to point out that he only collated the book, he did not author the major content, so he cannot answer for the content. In sum, do not ask him to validate any of the content of his NTIP book (because it is bogus?). An official propagandist and apologist for the GBC.

VIRABAHU DASA: Here is a guy who wrote the GBC's book about "Guru Tattva" wherein he says: the experience you get from your new guru, i.e. smoking marijuana, anal sex, and similar GBC hokey pokey guru's "lila," is the same experience you'd get from any bona fide guru (like Jesus). A very sick individual who thinks that when you meet someone like Jesus, you'll maybe get some good marijuana, or maybe (if you are a male) you'll get raped in the anus. And this is "the same experience" as if you met -- a Jesus-like guru? Swell. While I lived in Los Angeles a devotee who lived near Virabahu said that he saw that "The Wall Street Journal" was being delivered daily to Virabahu's door. So what is this, he is buying stocks with ISKCON's money -- while the same money was being deprived from the children -- and thus they were being starved? So, the children have had to starve so that Virabahu could buy stocks and read the Wall Street Journal? Or what? Meanwhile devotees from his zone say he has bankrupted several projects, or did he just pocket the money as some suspect?

Meanwhile, let us not forget that Virabahu's wife named "Karta" is the biggest groupie, and has been the biggest cheer leading exponent of, the "Narayana Maharaja" cult all around ISKCON's circles? The ISKCON people keep telling us at PADA that the GBC are not connected to the Gaudiya Matha's homosexual pedophile guru lineage advocates like "Narayana Maharaja" (of Mathura), but in fact this has simply not been the case. Tamal and others like Ravindra were meeting with him, at least according to the "ISKCON Journal" and other documents. Hrdayananda allegedly met with Narayana Maharaja even recently. Radhanatha is allegedly meeting with him nowadays. As a side note -- NM's cheerleader Jadurani is meeting with Tripurari (Tom Beaudry). So all the kings horses and all the kings men, i.e. the anal sex guru lineages, are always -- hanging out somehow or other trying to keep their child buggery guru lineages going forward? Thus, there is "a policy problem." The GBC says they will kick out ALL of the Narayana Maharaja folks, but Virabahu and Karta are -- exempt? This again is why no one takes the GBC seriously, they are "the untouchables" from -- their own rules. They think they above all the rules, but they have no rules for themselves, so it is a cult, antinomianism.

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This is by no means a comprehensive lists of "the usual suspects," but it points the way as to why "the troubles" are never solved. To sum, the GBC and their advisors whether Tamal, Sridhara, Narayana, Triprari, Ravindra, or their second tier clones like Kailasha Chandra, Kundali et al. they are all crying in unison, "Oh Prabhupada is dead, he is the post-samadhi diksha guru, what we need is to worship a nice living deviant"? Notice, they all speak like Ravindra since he coined their term "the post-samadhi diksha guru." By logical extension: Krishna is also a post samadhi diksha guru? When was this term ever used by Prabhupada? It is an offense by itself, "My guru is that post mortem dead guy, but look at me, I am breathing, pretty cool huh?" So in this way they conspire to make Srila Prabhupada irrelevant "post samadhi" and themselves the "living" source of diksha. This is the Gaudiya Matha part two.

Yet Kailasha Chandra types are more mayavadi than the GBC since his "living diksha guru" has no name, no address, no physical body, no books, no nothing, it is just that he says Prabhpada is the dead guy, and so you now have to find this alleged living guy. And so when we asked Kailash, "OK then, give us the name of your living diksha guru since he had no name," Kailasha was incensed that we exposed him and he quit writing to us 10 years ago? So did Kundali when we asked him for the name of his alleged living diksha guru? So they would rather have people worship a zero than worship Prabhupada. So the GBC / Sridhara/ Narayana name bogus or homosexual people, or the Kailasha crew has the no name, non-existing guru. In sum, the rascals have actual people for their bad gurus like poisoners, molesters and so on, whereas the mayavadis say, worship a zero for your guru.

Yet all over the Bay Area we see bumper stickers "JESUS LIVES." Thus Srila Prabhupada ordered a ritvik system since he wanted the worship of the living pure parampara to continue with living worship of the living pure devotee and the living Krishna. The Madhvas and Ramunujas are Christians since they worship their acharya? Prabhupada is a "Christian" since he endorsed a system of priests? Well Krishna's family had a family priest, so Krishna is a Christian? More oddly, someone from the Kailasha/ Kundali sector just wrote to tell me that the poison case is true, but it is sentimental emotionalism? So, if we are upset that our guru was apparently murdered, we are sentimentalists? We should sit quietly like a dead tree stump? In the fourth canto it say we should cry over the departure of our guru? Sentimentalism? Crying is a sign of weakness? So Krishna was crying when He wrote to the gopis, He is weak? Of course most of these people never showed any emotion when we said that the molester worship was ruining our children either. Showing emotion is now also a crime? thanks pd

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2) TESTIMONY ON THE POISON CASE

Dear prabhus,

I first suspected that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned when I saw raw film footage of the "final pastimes" in Vrindaban in the spring of 1978. I was invited to sit in on the viewing, but after a few minutes of watching Srila Prabhupada's contorted face writhing in horrible agony, the projectionist said, "we cannot watch this" and switched off the projector.

The images haunted me. I had just witnessed Jayananda's peaceful departure from his body, a year before, and nothing could have prepared me to see my Spiritual Master so tortured and tormented by forces obviously not caused by His own karma....I left the room very troubled indeed. Shortly after (1980?) I mentioned my suspicions to Yuga Dharma das, and he confided... "Yes, I was walking upstairs behind Tamal and Bhavananda before Srila Prabhupada left His body, and I overheard them discusssing how they were poisoning Srila Prabhupada"...I asked why he did not report anything, and he told me that he feared that they would kill him as well.

In 1973 I had overheard Tamal and Shayamasundhara discussing that Srila Prabhupada was "senile, and old and attached to the Bombay land that nothing could ever be built on" .....They discussed this so called "senility" to some length.

In 1994, Narayan das was visiting me in LA, and when I brought up the topic of the possible poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, he knew all about it, and told me that there were about seven or eight conspirators who were discussiong their tactics in a room in Vrindaban. Their conversation was overheard by a boy sweeping the balcony outside, that they took to be Indian, but who turned out to be an english speaking Mexican. This boy told quite a number of people what he had overheard. I asked Narayan das to go public with this information, but he said that it would do no good, as he did not see the sort of evidence that would lead to a conviction.

In 1996, Naveen Krishna invited me to a sound lab in Alachua to hear the famous "whispers" ......As a trained musician, I was able to clearly distinguish that the whispers were authentic both in the enhanced and unenhanced versions. Now, two books have been printed that clearly mount a vast amount of information to support the suspicion that Srila Prabhupada was indeed poisoned with arsenic and then finished off with mercury.

The symptoms described in Tamal Krishna's diary, and the symptoms described in the case book in which it was proved that Napoleon was poisoned by arsenic and then finished off with mercury are exactly duplicate. In the case of Napoleon, a long lock of hair was available which showed the insidiously cruel style of the poisoner who "conducted" and "orchestrated" the poisoning by giving large doses to induce acute illness, and then smaller doses to mimic small recovery, and then NO doses for some time to give the false hope of "recovery", followed by high doses to demonstrate acute illness once again. In the case of Napoleon, many diaries were kept by his faithful friends and servants on the steamy island of St Helena, and it was possible with the chromatographic test of the long locks of Napoleon's hair to MATCH THE DIARY ENTRIES WITH THE INFUSIONS OF ARSENIC PRESENT IN THE HAIR ITSELF!

The amount of arsenic found in the sample of Srila Prabhupada's hair that has been tested may show a very low day of dosage compared to other days, for which we have no hair samples. If a long lock of hair were available from Srila Prabhupada ...(such as several strands of his sika) it would be possible to trace the amounts of arsenic administered on different days, and it is quite likely that the amount of arsenic presently discovered would be that of a low dosage day. Tamal's diary traces the exact pattern of "high hopes" followed by tragic disappointment that was used to disguise the poisoning of Napoleon.

I would recommend that all three books be made available in a set so that one can fully peruse the evidence. This latest book, Judge for yourself" presents information in a compact and telling format. If any sincere, intelligent reader reads both books, (or better yet) all three books, such reader will have little choice but to be convinced that Srila Prabhupada was indeed not only poisoned, but tortured to death by his intestines being burned to liquid due to the interaction of arsenic and mercury which produces the black vomit and stools described both in His poisoning and that of Napoleon.

It is chilling to realize that Srila Prabhupada' Iskcon movement has been conducted for the last 26 years under the satanic and ruthless control of those who gleefully tortured Him to death! It is high time that we elect the GBC, bring the poison issue out into the open, and restore His movement to Him, as Acharya ....IN THE CENTER WHERE HE IS MEANT TO BE!

Your eternal servant,
Nara Narayan Vishwakarma das

[PADA: Thanks NNV, well said!]

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3) SANAT and MUKUNDA update

Dear pada, Hi. Should have read the whole item before emailing previous. Sanat (Steve Voith) and Mukunda (is this Mark Whitely from Oldham in the UK?). Your item is very confused. Are these two in the US? Are they running some bogus cow protection scheme? If these two are the two that I knew here in the UK, then I can say that the first is a psycho and the second a crook. Do let me know more. Regards, S das.

PADA: Yes, they are wack jobs. And yes Sanat is trying to collect some money for a bogus cow protection program, yet he has no legal place to keep cows. They have another "Gita Nagari" style fraud. As for Mukunda being a crook, I've heard that too. If anyone has info on his charity scams let us know. thanks pd]

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Dear S Dasa, here is a recent letter I wrote to Sanat and Mukunda's cheerleader, Jaya Krishna dasa (Jay Whitehead),

Dear JKD,

Thanks for your very revealing letter exchange between us. I think a lot was learned by me so there was some benefit. First of all you wrote to tell me that you are good friends with Mukunda dasa (Mark Whitely) the cheerleader of Sanat (Steve Voith). And you said that I should have joined your team instead of helping the Windle Turley case. And as we all know, and as is publicly posted, your team has said that ISKCON's child molestation victims must be: killed, chopped up and fed to dogs. This indeed still is your team's method of "solving" the molestation crisis since you have posted no retraction. Your idea is also not new, this is the "final solution" which Hitler proposed to fix his "unwanted population problem." And "killing the noisy victims" is of course "a solution" found in all kinds of third world terrorist governments such as Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Stalin and similar others.

I am a little astonished that a polished scholar and a professional chess player such as your good self would endorse these killing methods of children and their purveyors. You say first of all that ISKCON's children can all die of suicide, and then you say the remaining survivors have to be killed and chopped up? And here is another fine quote from your team, you want to see "a blood bath in Houston"? Sounds like very merciful devotee sentiment prabhu, or is this "The Texas Chain saw Murder" movie? And so your team proposed that mass killing of ISKCON's children will -- save Prabhupada's reputation? How? Worse, it seems to me that you have become the judge, jury and executioner of GBC's victims, while you let the GBC's and their perps program go scott free, as you have done all along? You said the suicides are not an issue? Why not?

Your team de facto says that these children are all "varnasankara" or unwanted. Your team are not only happy to find that these children are dying off from suicide, you are also saying -- the survivors must be killed as well? Well sorry prabhu, Prabhupada wanted them! And he wanted us as adults to take care of them? And if the only "care" we can give them at this point is to help them getting some funds for their molesting, then at least let us do something for them. This will win some of them back to Prabhupada and Krishna, and it has. And besides, it is further astonishing that you are crying that the GBC will be minus these funds, oh boo hoo, since some of the funds will now go to their victims instead? Why are you so interested in continuing to bank roll the GBC? Are they not the actual "root cause reason that Srila Prabhupada has a bad reputation" -- all round? The ex-children are not the root cause of ANY of this? This is what you fail wholesale to take into account? They are the victims? Why kill the victims? And you never have any reply to this?

How are we going to win the ex-kids back if we simply applaud their deaths and make them feel they really are unwanted "varnasankara"? Sorry, Prabhupada wanted us to take care of HIS kids, and that did not happen. And so Mr. Turley has to do your job and get at least something for them, and he even has to save some of them from suicide? That means "protective adults" (your team) failed, period. Had the history instead been that elder devotees like you, Sanat and others tried to help me and Sulochana stop the molester empire in the early 80s with a class action lawsuit, this whole Turley lawsuit could have been avoided. You were too busy playing chess while Sanat was hanging out with his dope fiend pals and you were stuffing your fat faces while the children were being starved, and he was supporting the molester empire and Satsvarupa's stupid books with his funds, not the children? So if the children's neglect gave them a bad impression, well you are part of that problem? And now that you want to see them dead, that means you are one hundred percent negligent, and they know that as well: your death threats to them are another huge cop-out.

And then Mukunda said, "one is compromised when one gets a lawyer." Umm ok, so Prabhupada was "compromised" with his meat eater lawyers too? And then your team announces in public that your lawyers are in fact the "North American Man Boy Lover Association's" (NAMBLA) lawyers, and this was posted all over Angelica area in the local newspapers? So you admitted in public that you are compromised with NAMBLA, and you are openly and publicly linking Prabhupada to NAMBLA by your own stated system? And once we pointed some of this out to you, then you lied to me: that your team never said any of these things? Sorry, we all know that is what your team offered was death threats and murder as your solution to the child molestation crisis in ISKCON. So the reason I was happy about the case was that at the time there was a troubling "suicide" wave going on amongst our youth and this grieved and concerned me and I was losing sleep thinking about it. I came to understand that when the lawsuits were filed in the Catholic Church that their molestation victim's higher rate of suicides dropped dramatically, since this validated the victims. So I was sort of hoping this would also occur in our faith, and I was right, the Turley suit did in fact help make a big dent, dramatic decrease actually almost to nil, of our suicide rate. Your team's idea, "Let the suicides grow more and more and kill the remainder" -- would have certainly have dragged ISKCON into PUBLIC ill repute way beyond what the Turley case eventually did. Clearly, the Turley case is vastly nominal when compared to your proposals. Or are you active NAMBLA members, not just compromised?

We also remember when your team said the children should be killed and chopped up, you wanted to publicize your "jihad against molested children" in "The New York Times" and you sent them copies of your illegal death threats: "Chop up yer kiddies, that is what Prabhupada is preaching"? Of course you never show us where Srila Prabhupada says we have to -- kill -- ANY molested children? And why should the GBC goondas have the millions anyway? The GBC used that money to kill Sulochana? And so you want them to have more funds, to do more of the same? Or they will use that money to cover up and harass more molestation victims? Why are you saying in public that Prabhupada's policy for dealing with child molesting is to -- kill the victims, and you said this is what Sulochana also said? No. He wanted to pressure -- the perps, and their molester infrastructure -- not the victims?

Also the "severe wording" of the Windle Turley case was never advertised widely since, again you seem to be unaware of the facts, the case never even went to trial? Thus the only persons on the planet who are constantly advertising the "severe wording" of the case is -- you! Then you said no sane man would agree with us, well sorry, hundreds and hundred of the ex-children do agree with us, as well as hundreds of their parents agree with us, indeed even one GBC told me that "the day of reckoning" was -- inevitable? And many hundreds of others agree, for example when I told one mother at Rathayatra that the Turley case was going to get some funds for the children, she launched into a spontaneous dancing jig, whirling around and laughing like crazy -- in ecstatic happiness -- since her child was also a victim, and she was not even on the case. So your team says, this poor woman also needs to be killed, chopped up and fed to dogs? So you have no feeling for either the victims or the people who care about the victims? And so to sum, and this is the honest to Krishna truth, while we have had credit from hundreds of people, -- not one single person, either perp, victim, GBC, parent, or anyone else on the planet, has wrote to tell me they agree with you that child molestation victims must be "killed, chopped up and fed to dogs" as your team still proposes?

So what is the result of your preaching is very hard for us to figure out? Sanat complained that since he has threatened to kill the ex-children, he can no longer go to any devotee functions, because they may confront him there? Well yes. Probably. Even Sanat admits that the whole result of your "big preaching" is that the ex-children hate your team? What have you convinced the ex-children to do? Nothing. Other than: that you hate them? So whatever you are preaching, you have had zero success? Your team has rather made your own lives miserable since your shiksa guru leader, Sanat, admits he cannot even go anywhere to any festivals? So you painted yourselves into a corner here, that is all? Why not, especially since Sanat is an expert on getting free everything, SSI, welfare, foodstamps, health care, government housing, and this and that, why does he not have your team offer to help other's get free SSI etc. for some of these molestation victims? Some of them are still having a very hard time and they will not get a penny from the case, since there were more than a thousand victims? Why not do something positive and help these kids? Then maybe they will listen to you and not make it so you cannot even go where they are? Your "killing of children" model is also not the tone and tenor of Prabhupada, indeed any society which applauds its children's suicides and says let us kill and chop up the rest, this is not a human society. It is not even a dog society. And we think Prabhupada will back us on these points. Apart from this your death threats program is -- illegal. thanks pd