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PADA Newsletter - 21. December, 2003

Jayapatka 12/21/03 - Date: Dec. 21, 2003
From: angel108b@yahoo.com (Puranjana)

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1) GBC NAMES UPDATE
2) GBC ORDERS DEVOTEES TO GO TO COURT ... (Letter to Devamrita swami)
3) SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE / Merry Christmas
4) BIF writes Jayapataka
5) MUKUNDA DASA

Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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PADA'S MOST WANTED LIST: Keep us apprised of the whereabouts of Jayapataka, Hridayananda, Bhakticharu and other GBC, thanks.

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[PADA: So our army of (according to you) bad grammar, bad foreign English, and basically not many "intelligent Americans" are the only ones doing the job? Who else is doing these things? No one. There are still molesters in the holy dham, according even to internal ISKCON reports, yet who else is trying to get them out of there, apart from us and our affiliates? No one. What kind of dharma does nothing about homosexual predators against children in their holy dham? What are you doing to address any of this? If it is only us, the so-called village drunks, and we are the best dharma fighter army, then that means: all of you are lower than us village drunks? Thanks pd]

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1) NAMES UPDATE

Hi Puranjana, We still don't have a comprehensive list of the GBCs' real names. Here's a start. This is the list of individual defendants in Children of ISKCON vs. ISKCON. I've filled in the names i know, but would you or your readers please fill in all the names of all ISKCON officials and post it somewhere? Thanks.

GREGORY GOTTFRIED [Gurukripa],
ROBERT GRANT [Ramesvara],
THOMAS HERTZOG [Tamal Krishna],
GOPAL KHANNA [Gopalkrishna],
HOWARD RESNICK [Hridayananda] and GLEN TETON [Giriraja], as Executors of The Estate of A.C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA;
FARAMARZ ATTAR [Atreya Rishi],
WILLIAM BERKE, [Bali Mardan],
ROBERT CORENS [Rupanuga],
WILLIAM EHRLICHMAN [Bhagavan],
JOHN FAVORS [Bhakti-Tirtha],
STEVEN GOREYNO a/k/a STEVEN GUARINO, [Satsvarupa]
MICHAEL GRANT [Mukunda],
KEITH HAM [Kirtanananda],
THEODORE RICHARD HARRIS [Panchadravida Swami],
JEFFREY HICKEY [Jagadish],
HANS KARY [Hansadutta]
GOPAL KHANNA, Individually, WILLIAM OGLE, [Balavanta] HOWARD RESNICK,
Individually, [Hridayananda] BRUCE SCHARF [Brahmananda],
Jayapataka swami, [Jayapataka Swami, now an Indian citizen, ex-karmi name: Gordon John Erdman]
Jayadvaita [Jay Israel],

[PADA: Is this not strange (see item below)? When people take a complaint to the GBC, the GBC sometimes says, go ahead, and take it to the karmi media, court etc.? Then, when some of us actually go to the media and court etc., then they say "you betrayed us and ISKCON by going to court"? Why can't we have a reasonable method of dealing with these issues? The good news is that our idea of going to the outside media, court and so on, has been proven as valid, since even now the GBC STILL tells folks: court and karmi media is the only way to make any progress. So the GBC should make up their minds, either they want items to be dealt with at the GBC level, or the court and media level? And they are telling not only us but everyone else the same thing, go ahead and expose them in the media and courts? So if that is what they want, they should not complain when it comes to pass? Or what? thanks pd]

Dandavats, Maharaja. Thanks for listening to me.
When you came to Madrid I gave you some valuable information. Now Praghosa prabhu says that I should go to court with the evidence that I have. It looks that you GBCs don't have any sympathy for me. Why should I go to court? What's then the meaning of the GBC? Bhakti Caitanya S. told me to contact Praghosa prabhu (GBC for Spain) and he doesn't show any symptom of believing in what I say and, finally, he suggests that I should go to court. So what's the use of contacting him? I'm a divinity student. I'm not into politics, porno, conspiracies and courts. Iskcon should take PD to court, not me. You said that you wanted to talk to me. Go ahead. Write to me. Let's see if PD answers my e-mail. What would Prabhupada do? Would he send me to court? Would he be indifferent? Would he allow a divinity student to be betrayed? Should a divinity student go to court or to the GBC appointed by Prabhupada? I belong to Prabhupada. We all belong to Prabhupada. Senior devotees take care of junior devotees. Lord Krishna preached to Arjuna in the great intimacy of friendship.
your servant Raghunatha Bhatta dasa

... Printed a nice article about an oriental (Phillipine?) woman who had made an intricate Christmas display, the center being a lighted box with a little baby Jesus inside. The woman was holding the box and looking down at baby Jesus with a wonderful smile, and she had a look of -- well, bliss. And so the newspaper caption read "Looking lovingly at baby Jesus." No kidding! This shows that even some ordinary woman can experience some loving exchange with her guru. Nice! Of course don't tell this to his divine grinch "posthumous - pada" Rocana dasa, "mundane religionists," he will sneer and snort. Yep, he has so much love for Prabhupada he calls his guru the "post samadhi -- posthumous one" like his hero: Ravindra Deadwhiler/ pedophile pada lineage/ swarupa. This oriental woman has millions of times more love for her guru than Rocana's crew could ever even imagine. Nor could she imagine joining up with Rocana's "Jesus is posthumous" crew. Nor would the concept make the slightest bit of sense to her: "Jesus is posthumous"? Sounds nuts! Prabhupada says: me and Jesus are brothers!

So, her guru is "alive" and she OBVIOUSLY experiences his presence directly, and so her love is alive, as was highly evident by her look of loving bliss. Yet Ravindra the grinch says, "Write Prabhupada a letter and see if he replies," well, Jesus "replies" to this woman all the time. Thus, some ordinary woman can jump way up to the heavens, way above the clouds of this grinch class, head and shoulders, and indeed empire state building heights -- way above them. As Prabhupada says, there is no material impediment to love of God. Ya either love Him or ya call God's gurus "the posthumous ones." Wake up you morbid sour grapes posthumous padas! Rocana says, "We would not want to be like the stoo--pid Christians," yep, why love your guru when you can join the "living" Pope squad and cite the slogans of pedophile pada lineage leaders like Jayadvaita and Ravindra -- and/or love the second echelon of enablers/ supporters like BV and BP Puri/ Sridhara/ Narayana/ Tripurari/ GBC? Rocana also says he has "defeated" us, what? He has not even answered our first question! Where (!) "in the tradition" is one's guru given the title of: "the post samadhi -- posthumous" guru? He cannot even reply to one point that we raised with half our brains tied behind our backs?

And moreover, forget PADA since, even this oriental woman has defeated Rocana. She is flying at hypersonic speed while Rocana drivels along like a sleepy slug. Merry Posthumous Christmas? You grinches are a laughingstock. Of course the BV and BP Puri/ Sridhara/ Narayana Maharaja/ Tripurari (Tom Beaudry of Philo CA)/ all said the same thing as well, worship of Jesus is "bogus" ritviks and they supported the GBC's homosexual pedophile lineage, as did Rocana for many years. This is their "tradition"? And BV Puri still lectures at the GBC's temples just like Tripurari does, since they are STILL compromised with their child bugger guru project? And we have also asked Rocana, "who" is his living guru, and he has not replied to that either? Whereas this oriental woman knows the answer in two seconds? Rocana cannot answer in twenty five years? Umm my guru is posthumous pada, I mean nobody pada, I mean, well I am living so why not worship me, Mr. Rocana grinch pada?

Of course, when we asked Jayadvaita the same question, he at least said that his living guru "might" be living somewhere, say for example way atop the Peruvian mountains, or on the south pole etc. Jayadvaita at least said I'd have to go there and see if his guru was sitting there, so maybe he has a living guru somewhere, meanwhile he says we must accept his buggery lineage? While Rocana has -- zero? At least Narayana Maharaja and his pal Bhagavata Maharaja have the honesty to just came out and say that they support homosexual buggery as their gurus and "there is nothing wrong with that." Unquote. Of course Tripurari/ Tom Beaudry worships the founders of buggery worship as his gurus too. This oriental woman knows -- there is plenty "wrong" with these folks, so give her someone like Jesus please! This is why Prabhupada said, "just like they killed Jesus they may kill me also," ... kill him by killing his worship as "bogus ritviks." Perhaps this is why Jesus said, "Oh ye Pharisees, sons of vipers." Hey, hey, hey, yep, even the most illiterate drunkard in the Ozarks knows that Jesus is alive and these posthumous guru/ child bugger guru clowns are idyoots. thanks pd

Yes folks it is true, more and more people are beginning to connect the dots:
(1) The ISKCON leaders (GBC) policy to ban, beat and kill the devotees;
(2) the GBC policy of orchestrating widespread child molesting;
(3) the GBC implication in Prabhupada's poison complaint;
(4) and in sum the GBC implication in so many criminal plots and schemes, ad infinitum.
Certainly some prominent GBC tried to "takeover ISKCON" even while Prabhupada was physically present with things like: their umbrella corporation scam, Tamal's Radha Damodara project taking away Prabhupada's temple's devotees, taking over (and killing?) Vishnujana and so on. Some GBC are thus the same people who put their photos on the altars and were "waiting for Prabhupada to die" so they could place their picture on his altars. And so it goes, the thief kills his victim, the butler kills the master, the king's minister kills the king, the prince kills his prince brother (so he can be king) -- this is all old news, therefore the motive to poison His Divine Grace is quite plain, to take away from him, or even fully take over everything from him, just as we see in the above examples. Of course they also stopped Prabhupada's order for his devotees to come to India, which is why Prabhupada said, "Where is everybody"? Satsvarupa at least admitted that he was the main guy who halted to order by saying everyone should stay and "collect money" instead. So they plotted, to get him in the room, plotted to chase all thes rest of the devotees away, plotted to hide the poison audio tapes, plotted to kill those of us who asked questions, etc.... very nice, except that Krishna can turn one into a cockroach in two blinks, and have one -- eating old cigarette butts? This is the only problem with these "plotters," they are atheists, they do not believe this can happen to them?

We have some new testimony from a devotee who was in Prabhupada's room when he departed and it confirms many things we have already discussed. For example, he says that there was some "disgusting talk" especially from Tamal about "dividing up the properties" and setting up a few select GBC as "big leaders" after Prabhupada departed. The idea was that Tamal seemed to be almost hoping Prabhupada would depart. And doctor Ghosh told this devotee that "there seems to be some foul play." Apparently, Hansadutta was also disgusted with Tamal and his "divide and conquer" talk, and the fact that Tamal was not allowing Prabhupada to leave his room despite his many requests, and so on. According to this devotee, Hansadutta stormed out of the room being angry at Tamal. Unfortunately, shortly after Prabhupada departed Hansadutta became Tamal's confederate and in some respects his right hand man, since it seems that the temptation to grab a few pieces of Judas gold is quite powerful. Sympathy for the Devil.

Thus, on the one hand, grabbing some of Judas gold is quite disgusting for some of us, while on the other hand, the motivated class of "devotee" (?) is always prone to being overwhelmed and enamored by the glitter of such Judas gold and its subsequent power, glory, worship, and they think grabbing Judas gold (or ISKCON's assets) is a wonderful prize. Indeed, this story is as old as time itself: a person exploits a religion and in sum he "sells his soul to Satan." So it is interesting that in the 1970s some of the leaders were totally disgusted with Tamal's cavalier and manipulative attitude towards Prabhupada. Yet! At the same time -- in the end -- many of them could not help themselves from being attracted to Tamal's vicious plan to "takeover." And so they became entangled in Tamal's spider web of endless plots and schemes against Prabhupada and his mission. Thus, some of the people who were "the most disgusted" with Tamal's blatant disrespect towards Prabhupada -- later on -- became his dedicated servants and confederates. Worse, Hansadutta later on (in 1986) endorsed Kirtanananda as "the only pure devotee in ISKCON," when child molestation and well known murders were linked to that deviant. This is because Kirtanananda offered Hansadutta a piece of his stolen gold at that time. People also surrendered to the Kauravas in Krishna's time, not the Pandavas, because the Kauravas had the money and power and could offer people a big position, or so it seemed.

This type of thing also happened with Kamsa. People came to complain to him how he was so irrelgious, and instead of convincing Kamsa, they became his servants. "What happened to Joe, that guy who hated Kamsa"? "Well, he has become Kamsa's new minister of horse whoopee cleanup." In the same way many other false co-conspiracy gurus joined Tamal, as well as many "lesser" helpers, those who were simply attached to being say -- temple presidents. Tamal gave them the bonus of having power, position, lots of money for buying things like expensive Italian jeans for their wives and so on. And so they wondered, "If I leave Tamal's empire, then my wife will want me to actually work so I can buy her some expensive jeans, and that is just too much trouble, so it is better to kiss Satan pada's feet."

Even big scholars like BV and BP Puri/ Sridhara and Narayana Maharaja, they also became totally enamored by Tamal and his plots. For example, when we forwarded Prabhupada's poison complaint, Narayan Maharaja was one of the first persons to angrily and bitterly oppose us -- since he was at the time Tamal's "rasika guru." He thought that his good friend Tamal could not have done such a dastardly deed since at the time NM was in Texas living large with his best friend Tamal and eating from Tamal's rice bowl, and in sum he was having tea and crumpets with Satan pada. NM also took some of this Judas' gold and became befuddled just like so many of his Gaudiya Matha contemporaries. Even Bhakti Pramode and Bhakti Vaibhava Puri, so-called big scholars, they became friends with Tamal's plan to be worshipped as "Prabhupada's successors." So it is not too astonishing that lesser "scholars" and many innocent devotees were fooled.

Then we have folks like Krishna Kanta and Adridharana of the IRM. According to the BIF report below, those who knew about the poison complaint and did not speak up, protest, try to get an investigation going and so on (like Adridharana?), are all implicated in "aiding and abetting the crime." "A conspiracy of silence." They are implicated in hiding the crime, or what will soon become famous all over the world as "Prabhupada's poison complaint." Of course the IRM told me that if I could convince some (karmi) cigar chewing and chicken eating judge in India -- that Prabhupada had made a poison complaint, then the IRM would accept the complaint as valid. Mundane Judges are the IRM's authority, of course the IRM's advertised "poison case" expert -- Tamal, does not even accept defeat when the courts and media prove he is wrong. So the IRM's authority is some cigar chomping judge, or Tamal, but it is certainly not Prabhupada. Let us face it, this is all stalling technique. This is the same techinique the GBC and IRM types and other people used to cover up for the child molesting issue all along as well, "Go get a judge and court." Meanwhile, the kids are being starved, beat and molested? Stalling tactic. Just as, when a bank robber is caught with a bag of money and blood stains on his shoes from the person he shot in the bank, he still says, "I am innocent, go talk to my lawyer." Stalling technique. Prabhupada called these people "rascals."

And so we find Hansadutta surrendered to Tamal early on but he has tried to distance himself subseqently. While the IRM surrendered to Tamal early on (and then again: later on) and they now cite the web site of Tamal as their authority, "Judas is our leader." Thus the trend and tendency is there to support Judas and his plots, this is always possible whether by Hansadutta, the Gaudiya Matha leaders who are compromised with Tamal's ideas, or the IRM who now states that Tamal/Judas is their Lord and Master for the poison case, or anyone else. Notice: Hansadutta still does not make a formal statement favoring the poison case since: he cannot betray "the good old boys network"? Of course that makes him way more advanced than the IRM who is not neutral like Hansadutta but they attack Prabhupada's complaint. And they openly take the side of Satan pada Tamal and Krishna Kanta Desai cites him as his real authority.

The Pharisees also told Jesus he was subordinate to their Judges and courts, and the Gaudiya Matha told Prabhupada to go get a lawyer if he wanted to object to their guru project. So these guys are all birds of a feather. The problem being, even with the GBC's good mundane lawyer, if one aids and abets Judas, one is cooked since there is a much higher authority than the karmi judge? The Pharisees also got Jesus prosecuted by their rigged karmi court. So this is the standard of the rascal class, they do not accept the authority of the pure devotee and worse, they may try to force us lesser devotees, or even the pure devotees, to wrangle with them in their courts when it suits. And yet, as soon as we win in the courts as we did on the child molest case, then they cry, oh see, boo hoo, they went to the courts! Yes, and you told us to go to the courts you rascals! thanks pd

Your disinclination to submit a statement in connection with the mysterious circumstances surrounding the passing of His Divine Grace, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, may appear strategically acquittable to you but does no such thing in reality, or for those investigating the evidence. Although convinced beyond measure in your anticipated decision to remain silent, hence uncommitted, your constant presence at the deathbed of His Divine Grace in 1977, involves you directly in the allegations of poisoning made by the deceased, the poison 'whispers', the poison conversations, negligence to report the same to medical authorities and/or Law Enforcement, ergo, conspiring to keep secret a (possible) homicide in progress, and after the fact. In sum: conspiring, aiding-and-abetting, an accessory before, during, and after the fact.

Having briefly outlined our reasons for making contact, we would like to point out that you have not been singled out as a target for inquiry. Bhakti Caru Swami has also been contacted, but, even at the expense of having his name and reputation tarnished via International exposure, has refused to answer even the most basic questions, which, for any innocent party would have been effortless. Our letter to him is accessible on www.b-i-f.com. Should you follow Bhakti Caru Swami's lead in choosing to pretentiously ignore the work being done to effectually bring the matter to a conclusion, we will email this letter/questionnaire out to devotees, media, and Life Members, and upload the same with your bio/ photograph onto the internet where it will hang long after your demise.

[PADA: Great idea. What about photos of folks like Jayadvaita as well? And put in a few of his quips like, "In ISKCON our gurus are having illicit sex with men, women and children." Identify some of these scum bags in public.]

Along with our objectives presented for your reflection, we put before you, and in the event of your failing to comply, before the world, the first of our questionnaires to you, Jayapataka Swami.

Firstly, and of grave concern, we draw your attention to audio tape T-46/B, or BBT publication- Conversations with Srila Prabhupada, Vol. 36, p391. On the tape, we hear Bhakti Caru Swami very clearly saying (Bengali) to Krishna Das Babaji Maharaja: "Aro ek deen pora asho", after which your voice can be heard saying: "Poisoning for a ....". Then, we hear Srila Prabhupada say in a high pitched voice, "To me?"

[PADA: First, poison Prabhupada, then poison his movement by kicking out so many nice devotees, then poison all of Prabhupada's children by getting them molested, quite a plan or what?]

We have sent T-46 to the same forensic analysts who worked on the "Nixon Tapes", and are currently awaiting results.

1) What were you saying to His Divine Grace in connection with poison that
caused him to raise his voice in question?

Throughout the discussions concerning Srila Prabhupada's wish to go on "parikrama" (T-45/46. Con. Vol 36, p 369-391), you showed yourself to be in agreement. Here are some of your quotes:
a) The kaviraja said ...he said that even a healthy cow, if it's kept locked up inside of a room, then it will deteriorate.
b) This kaviraja assures that by taking a little milk frequently during the day...
c) Which holy places you would like to visit, Srila Prabhupada?
d) You are very famous, Srila Prabhupada, wherever you go there will be crowds of people to have your darsana.
e) I'll be back to say that you defy all medical laws....
f) ...if you feel any pain or experience any difficulty, then we can bring you back.

Then, after the quotes transcribed above, we hear you say to Srila Prabhupada - "Poisoning for a..." . We then hear Srila Prabhupada ask - "To me?" ... after which we hear no more from you. There is a break in recording, and then we hear Tamal Krishna Swami (who claims to have met with some devotees) make a speech to Srila Prabhupada which ends with: "...So why are we throwing everything out the window, that we must go tomorrow? I cannot understand". Then Srila Prabhupada says: "I cannot refuse all your requests".

2) Were you in the meeting where everyone changed their minds and voted to request His Divine Grace not to go on parikrama?
3) Why did you change your mind and accept what Tamal Krishna thought best, and against the expressed wish of His Divine Grace?
4) Who/what caused you to change your mind?
5) You were present when Srila Prabhupada said if he went on parikrama he would be cured, why did you choose to ignore him?
6) You heard Srila Prabhupada say if he didn't go on parikrama a 'Ravana' would kill him. You were there. What do you think he was talking about?
7) You heard Tamal Krishna say to Srila Prabhupada - "Now you have to choose which suicide." You were there. What do you think he was talking about?

When Srila Prabhupada was asked how he had received information about his poisoning, he said: "Ye saab friends". Meaning, those who were in the room at the time, were discussing his poisoning. You were in the room along with Tamal Krishna and Bhakti Caru Swamis:

7) Were you discussing the poisoning?
8) Who, if not you, was discussing the poisoning?
9) If you were not involved, and did not hear the discussions, how do you think it possible that Srila Prabhupada overheard the discussions?
10) Did you believe Srila Prabhupada when he said that he had heard those present (All these friends) discussing his poisoning?

In the letter to Bhakti Caru Swami, we have asked a number of questions that also apply to you; a perspective witness. We will now present to you the same facts we presented him, before asking you some fundamental questions that beg answers. Here are the facts:

Kaviraja: "Yeh Maharaja, yeh kotha aap kaise bola aaj ki koi bola hi ki poison diya hai?........"
Kaviraja: "Dekhye, bat yeh hai, ki koi rakshas ne diyo ho."....
Kaviraja: "Yeh bolte hai to isme kuch na kuch satya he. Isme koi sandeha nahin."....
Bhakticaru: "Someone gave him poison here!"
Tamala Krsna: Srila Prabhupada, Sastriji says that there must be some truth to it if you say that. So who is it that has poisoned?
Tamal Krsna: "Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him."
Bhakticaru: "YES."
Bhakticaru: "He said that when Srila Prabhupada was saying that (He was being poisoned) THERE MUST BE SOME TRUTH BEHIND IT."

Tamal Krishna: "We asked Srila Prabhupada later what was the cause of his mental disturbance. Prabhupada disclosed his thoughts that someone has poisoned him." TKG's Diary, 340p.

11) Do you concede that Srila Prabhupada (and everyone in the room) WAS THINKING SOMEONE HAD POISONED HIM, or not?

Bhakti Caru Swami has written to us saying: "As a matter of fact, when we heard His Divine Grace speaking in that way, we became extremely worried".

12) Were you also worried.. Why/Why not?
13) Why didn't you alert the authorities to a possible homicide in progress, or after the fact?
14) Who decided against informing Law Enforcement/pathology? Was it you?
15) May we have the names of those who decided not to investigate Srila Prabhupada's plaint?

SP: No, these kind of symptoms are seen when a man is poisoned. He said like that, not that I am poisoned.
TK: Did anyone tell you that or you know it from before? (Know what from before...that he was NOT POISONED?)
SP: I read something, (Read what...that he was NOT POISONED?)
TK: Ah, I see. That's why actually we cannot allow anyone to cook for you. (Why would Tamal Krishna want to stop "anyone" from cooking for SP, unless he believed in the poisoning as a reality?)

KAVIRAJA: (translated) "Look, this is the thing, that maybe some rakshasa gave him poison". (...the kaviraja also believed in the poison theory.)
KAVIRAJA: (translated) "If he says (that he has been poisoned) there must be some truth to it. There's no doubt". (So, there is no doubt in the mind of Srila Prabhupada's attending doctor.)

Bhakticaru: "He's saying that someone gave him poison".
Tamal Krishna: "Prabhupada was thinking that someone had poisoned him".
Bhakticaru: "YES".
Tamal Krishna: "That was the mental distress?"
Bhakticaru: "YES".

It appears that Srila Prabhupada, Bhakti Caru Swami, Tamal Krishna Goswami, and the Kaviraja, are all convinced in the poisoning as a fact. Now, Maharaja, in light of the evidence presented above, we ask you:-

16) Do you accede that His Divine Grace had apprised you (et al) of his poisoning?
17) Do you concede that everyone there attested to the fact?
18) Considering the evidence- why did you enter into a conspiracy to keep the evidence hidden?
19) Why have you not entered a statement to clarify your position on this matter?
20) Why did you instruct your disciple to publish a book of deception (Not That I am Poisoned) only after the truth was discovered, and to protect you and your confederacy from suspicion?
21) Do you or don't you accept the 'not that I am poisoned' excerpt, behind which you have hidden for four years, to be a distortion of the truth?
22) Do you actually believe, in view of the revelations, that twenty years of silence by YOU and your confederacy does not in fact betray a concerted effort to cover-up a murder conspiracy?

Further, on an occasion in Mayapur, Srila Prabhupada discovered two poisonous snakes in his room. When he called out, you were the first one to dash into his room. In your explanation for rushing up the stairs and being first into Srila Prabhupada's room, you said you had heard Srila Prabhupada call to you in your heart. Could you please elaborate on the story for us. We are very interested in this special spiritual bond you shared with His Divine Grace. But most of all, we are interested in the details of the story itself. Could you help?

Maharaja, in conclusion, we understand that you are seated on the "Ministry for the Protection of ISKCON", the same 'ministry' that published "Not That I am Poisoned"; a book that lied and cheated to protect you and your confederacy from suspicions of murder. Now, after only a little digging, we find you and Bhakti Caru Swami, have never really wandered far from crime or the criminal element. For example- the horrible, and yet to be exposed child abuse in Mayapur, happened directly under the jurisdiction of you and your old buddy, Bhakti Caru Swami. And, once again we find you two in the chiaroscuro, working overtime to broom damning evidence of perversion and predation under a non-secular carpet.

Additionally, there are many- an inordinate number- of ISKCON confirmed and alleged paedophiles and child abusers who are disciples of Bhakti Caru Swami. And, he has done what he has always done when finding it in his interest to do so, and that is to turn the other way, even in the face of credible evidence against the accused. There is one case where a person whom a Child Protection Office panel determined had illicit sexual contact, including intercourse, with at least one underage girl (beginning when she was 12 and continuing for several years), was a major contributor to the Bhakti Caru profile/fund. Even after the official decision on the case, Bhakti Caru would reside at the home of this person, support and defend him, etc. Under the circumstances even a pig would walk away, but you Swamis appear to attract criminal depravity, and defend it. Then there was the case of YOUR secretary who was caught in aggressive homosexual activity. The Mayapur Administrative Council, about 2-3 years ago, voted to ban him from the property, or some such sanctions. But you, Jayapataka Maharaja, overrode the ban. You said that as GBC, you had authority over the Administrative Council. As a result, the sanctions placed on YOUR secretary were thrown out, and his services were retained by you. This behaviour is considered unconscionable even among hogs and dogs.

Devotees and public are yet unaware of the demonic activity that has been ongoing in Mayapur, and directly under your management. The world's attention is focussed on the ISKCON child abuse case in America, but the horrible abuse that has taken place in Mayapur, and remains hidden by YOU for all these years, is yet unknown. However the truth is about to surface, and when it does, it will show you to be a sinister personality who is capable of keeping the darkest secrets, and who has never exposed a single felon to legal process.

In the vain hope that you will appreciate the importance of cooperating with us in this investigation, we remain

Yours Sincerely
Bhaktivedanta Investigation Force

5) MUKUNDA DASA (Mark Whitely)
One argument raised by people like Madhudvisa dasa from Krishna Org. and Puranjana dasa from P.A.D.A. is that Srila Prabhupada may order one of us to be diksa guru when we are qualified.

[PADA: Prabhupada said that a person becomes guru "when the training is complete" i.e. he is qualified. Where does Srila Prabhupada say, "And when I give the order, it will be to one of -- us -- (his 1970s disciples?)." You are mis-citing Prabhupada and making a straw man argument. You are also mixing "us" (the 1970s?) and a period of 10k -- in the same breath? None of "us" will be alive in a few years, what to speak of 10k years? You are mixing up everything here, and in sum you are totally misrepresenting Prabhupada?

Prabhupada also said a person becomes guru "on my order"? Why are you always misquoting people -- including Prabhupada? When did he say he would not give this order for 10k years? Prabhupada also said that demigods may take birth in his movement, and as we all know, some of them are Lord Brahma and others -- who are diksha gurus -- already? You say they cannot be gurus: on YOUR order? Suppose Haridasa Thakura re-appears and you say, he is not a diksha guru because your ordered him not to be? What makes you higher than Krishna and Prabhupada? If they "order" something, and Prabhupada said he may do so in the future i.e. in the next 10k, then you say: they cannot do so? This is why many people say you and your pal Sanat are getting some bad marijuana lately. At least the IRM says that if Haridasa re-appeared they would allow him to be a diksha guru, but they would call the police if he came to their property and have Haridasa ejected and arrested for tresspassing Krishna Kanta's private property, but he could be diksha guru everywhere else. This is good because first they said Haridasa would only be a shiksha pot washer in Krishna Kanta's domain if he re-appeared, but they would forbid him from preaching and giving divyam jnanam which destroys sins -- as if they have the power to do that. Krishna Kanta Deasai says he can have Haridasa arrested and kicked off his property if he re-appears, so he is definately following in the footsteps of Tamal.

Now you say what the IRM says, that Prabhupada is dead, he can no longer give any orders for 10k despite that he said he could or may do so? You are another Tamal of the ritviks like Krishna Kanta Desai, he says the same thing, Prabhupada is dead, he cannot give any orders to anyone for 10,000 years? How do you know what he will do for 10k -- when he never said anything about what he or Krishna would do in this regard for 10k? Even Krishna Kanta's best pal Yaduraja finally broke down and he said the book, "The Final Order," is bogus because he agreed with PADA: Prabhupada CAN give an order since -- he said he could! By the way, "The Final Order" used to say "the authors" and now it just says, Krishna Kanta Desai is "the author." Seems Yaduraja has finally wised up and does not want to be listed as a co-author since he admits this document is defective. Srila Prabhupada never said that the July 9th letter applied to pure devotees, or for 10k, etc. and Yaduraja finally agreed with PADA on this point.

You are the self-same dead guru advocates of the GBC: he cannot give any order, despite that he said he could. You also admit that you are compromised with your lawyers, and your lawyers are the lawyers for the NAMBLA, the North American Man Boy Lovers Association? Your pal Jaya Krishna wrote to tell me that if thousands of children of ISKCON commited suicide, and this was reported all over the world in the public newspapers, that would be "good news" for Prabhupada's reputation? Mass molesting and mass suicide are your ideas of "good publicity"? Mass suicide is what Jim Jones cult is famous for, so he is your new guru? Then, when I failed to agree that the suicide of many children is a good idea, Jaya Krishna wrote "whose disciple are you"? Read: Prabhupada endorses mentally torturing child molesting victims, even their mass suicide, as a solution -- to anything? And no wonder, moreover Jaya Krishna says he agrees with you, that means he is now compromised with NAMBLA?

Sorry, Jim Jones and his suicide solution does not have a good reputation at all? You people are worshippers of Jim Jones, and no wonder since you cite the Tamal of the ritviks as your authority. Apart from that, your idea that the molested children of ISKCON must all die is heartless cruelty. You want to kill people whereas Prabhupada wanted to save people, that is the difference. Of course the lawsuit is bad because it takes money from your heros the GBC, and it has helped and encouraged some of the molested victims and restored their faith in Krishna, I know, too bad! Apart from all this, your pal Sanat (Steve Voith) says he cannot attend any festivals in New York because he fears for his saftey, yes probably because he threatened to kill all of the molested children and he said he basically longed to make "a blood bath" of ISKCON's children? You endorse killing molested children in the name of Prabhupada. And so tell us, how has that helped anything? You guys are not even able to go anywhere and "preach" your own message since making these threats, first you were hiding in a hole waiting for WW III and now you are hiding in the same hole because you threatened to kill so many kulis? Even the karmis in Angelica think you guys are total nut cases and you have given Prabhupada A BAD NAME all over upper Western New York with your NAMBLA shennanigans, they all know what your good lawyers stand for, they want child molesters to have the right to preach how to molest children on their web site, that is what you are compromised with by your own admission. In sum, we hope that another pure devotee will appear since this will SAVE THE CONDITONED SOULS, and it will HELP Prabhupada's mission, and your idea that Prabhupada is forbidden to do -- anything -- makes you followers of Tamal. Thanks pd]