Srila Prabhupada and Narayana Maharaja Brothers?
Dear Prabhus, pamho,
agtsp.
Thankyou for sending me your propaganda that Srila Prabhupada and Narayana Maharaj are looked upon by your self as "like god brothers".
Narayana Mhj. |
Unfortunately
you cannot see the 'wood for the trees'.
Far from it being true to what you claim, Srila Prabhupada's position is not only
far superior to Narayana Maharaj's position, but he is the radiant moonshine
that is pervading the entire three worlds compared to Narayana Maharaj who
is just a star and a shadow in the path of Srila Prabhupada and his ISKCON mission!
The
proof is in the pudding
which I invite you to read below from a Prabhupadanuga!
Narayana maharaja and his followers are only interested in
stealing Srila
Prabhupada's disciples, his opulence and his prestige! Only a blind
fool will
not be able to see what his camp is up to all these years.
That is why you are equating and promoting Srila
Prabhupada
with him rather than putting forward Narayana Maharaja's
spiritual Master.
So
please stop fooling
around your nonsense and offensive comparison of Narayana Maharaj as
equal and
successor to the most exalted saviour of the whole world, Jagat Guru A
C
Bhaktivedanta Srila Prabhupada! You
are barking up the wrong tree.
ys, Revatinandana
Das
How
The Current Acarya Srila Prabhupada Gives Diksa
Note: Srila Prabhupada is IDENTICAL with his PURPORTS.
SB
1.2.18 P Divinity and Divine Service
Bhagavata
book and person are identical.
Adi
1.99 T The Spiritual Masters
eka
bhagavata bada----bhagavata-sastra
ara
bhagavata----bhakta bhakti-rasa-patra
SYNONYMS
eka--one;
bhagavata--in relation to the Supreme Lord; bada--great;
bhagavata-sastra--Srimad-Bhagavatam; ara--the other; bhagavata--in
relation to
the Supreme Lord; bhakta--pure devotee; bhakti-rasa--of the mellow of
devotion;
patra--the recipient.
TRANSLATION
One
of the bhagavatas is the great scripture Srimad-Bhagavatam,
and
the other is the pure devotee absorbed in the mellows of loving
devotion.
TEXT
100
TEXT
dui
bhagavata dvara diya bhakti-rasa
tanhara
hrdaye tanra preme haya vasa
SYNONYMS
dui--two;
bhagavata--the bhagavatas; dvara--by; diya--giving;
bhakti-rasa--devotional
inspiration; tanhara--of His devotee; hrdaye--in the heart; tanra--his;
preme--by
the love; haya--becomes; vasa--under control.
TRANSLATION
Through the actions of these TWO bhagavatas the Lord
instills the mellows of transcendental loving service into the heart of a living
being, and thus the Lord, in the heart of His devotee, comes
under the control of the devotee's love.
SB 1.7.22 P The Son of Drona Punished
The
spiritual master, BY HIS WORDS, CAN PENETRATE INTO THE
HEART OF
THE SUFFERING PERSON AND INJECT KNOWLEDGE TRANSCENDENTAL, which alone
can
extinguish the fire of material existence.
SB
2.9.8 P Answers by Citing the Lord' s Version
THE
POTENCY OF TRANSCENDENTAL SOUND IS NEVER MINIMIZED BECAUSE THE VIBRATOR
IS
APPARENTLY ABSENT. Therefore SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM or
Bhagavad-gita or
any revealed scripture in the world is never to be accepted as an
ordinary
mundane sound without transcendental potency.
Adi
1.35 The Spiritual Masters
THERE
IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE SPIRITUAL MASTER'S INSTRUCTIONS
AND THE
SPIRITUAL MASTER HIMSELF.
In his absence, therefore, his words of direction should be the pride
of the
disciple.
SRILA
PRABHUPADA OUR JAGAD DIKSA GURU: LIVING STILL---- IN SOUND! AND IN THIS
SOUND HE
GIVES DIKSA
750716pc.sf Conversations
Reporter (2): What will happen to the movement in the United States when
you die?
Prabhupada: I WILL NEVER DIE.
Prabhupada: I SHALL LIVE FROM MY BOOKS, AND YOU WILL UTILIZE.
Note:
Srila Prabhupada and his words are on the transcendental platform
therefore his PURPORTS
TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS THE CURRENT LINK. AS LONG AS WE
HAVE
PRABHUPADA'S PURPORTS TO THE SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM HE WILL BE OUR CURRENT
LINK
BECAUSE **THE REAL** MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM ARE **HIS**
PURPORTS.
SB 2.9.7
As already stated, Brahmä is the original spiritual master for the
universe, and since he was initiated by the Lord Himself, the MESSAGE
OF
SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM IS COMING DOWN BY DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION, and in order
to
receive THE REAL MESSAGE OF SRIMAD-BHAGAVATAM one should approach THE
CURRENT
LINK, or spiritual master, in the chain of disciplic succession.
690113LE.LA Lectures
...vani and vapu, and vapu means the physical body, and vani means the
vibration. So we are not concerned about the physical body. Not
concerned
means... We are concerned, of course, because the spiritual master,
those who
are acaryas, their body is not considered as materiel. Arcye sila-dhir
gurusu
nara-matir. Just like the statue of Krsna, to consider that "This is a
stone..." Similarly, arcye sila-dhir gurusu na... Gurusu means those
who
are acaryas, to accept their body as ordinary man's body, this is
denied in the
sastras. SO ALTHOUGH A PHYSICAL BODY IS NOT PRESENT, THE
VIBRATION SHOULD
BE ACCEPTED AS THE PRESENCE OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, VIBRATION.
WHAT
WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, THAT IS LIVING.
DIKSA THE PROCESS of revealation thru Prabhupada's books.
74-11-22 Letter: Bahurupa
IN MY BOOKS the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness is EXPLAINED
FULLY so if there is anything which you do not understand, then
you
simply have to read again and again. By reading daily THE KNOWLEDGE
WILL
BE REVEALED TO YOU AND BY THIS PROCESS YOUR SPIRITUAL LIFE WILL
DEVELOP.
75-03-14 Letter: Sivani
To take SHELTER of the Spiritual Master MEANS TO FOLLOW HIS
INSTRUCTIONS.
Note:
read Srila Prabhupada's books associate with him directly
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Lectures
But
in this life, if we develop Krsna consciousness by association of
devotees... As
Narottama dasa Thakura has sung, tandera carana-sevi-bhakta-sane vasa.
One's aim
of life should be to serve the acaryas. Acarya upasanam. So our
acarya in
the Gaudiya Vaisnava Sampradaya, the sri-rupa sanatana
bhatta-raghunatha,
sri-jiva gopala-bhatta dasa-raghunatha, the Six Gosvamins, and if we
associate
with them... this book, Nectar of Devotion, Bhakti-rasamrta-sindhu, if
you read
regularly, try to understand, this means you are associating with Srila
Rupa
Gosvami directly. And if you act accordingly, then you are serving
their lotus
feet.
SB
4.31.2
One desiring perfection or liberation SHOULD ASSOCIATE WITH A PERSON
WHO IS
ALREADY LIBERATED. THIS IS CALLED SADHU-SANGA, ASSOCIATING WITH A
PERFECT
DEVOTEE.
EK 4
There are two conceptions of presence--the physical conception and the
vibrational conception. The physical conception is temporary, whereas
the
vibrational conception is eternal. When we enjoy or relish the
vibration of
Krsna's teachings in Bhagavad-gita, or when we chant Hare Krsna, we
should know
that by those vibrations He is immediately present. He is absolute, and
because
of this His vibration is just as important as His physical presence.
WHEN WE
FEEL SEPARATION FROM KRSNA OR THE SPIRITUAL MASTER, WE SHOULD JUST TRY
TO
REMEMBER THEIR WORDS OF INSTRUCTIONS, AND WE WILL NO LONGER FEEL THAT
SEPARATION. SUCH ASSOCIATION WITH KRSNA AND THE SPIRITUAL MASTER
SHOULD BE
ASSOCIATION BY VIBRATION, NOT PHYSICAL PRESENCE. THAT IS REAL
ASSOCIATION.
We put so much stress on seeing, but when Krsna was present on this
earth, so
many people saw Him and did not realize that He is God; so what is the
advantage
of seeing? By seeing Krsna, we will not understand Him, but by
listening
carefully to His teachings, we can come to the platform of
understanding. We can
touch Krsna immediately by sound vibration; therefore we should give
more stress
to the sound vibration of Krsna and of the spiritual master--then we'll
feel
happy and won't feel separation.
680818SB.MON Lectures
Prabhupada: Oh, that you should not think. If... The words... There are
two
conceptions: the physical conception and the vibration conception. So
physical
conception is temporary. The vibration conception is eternal. Just like
we are
enjoying or we are relishing the vibration of Krsna's teachings. So by
vibration
He is present. As soon as we chant Hare Krsna or chant Bhagavad-gita or
Bhagavata, so He is present immediately by His vibration. He's
absolute.
Therefore try to remember His words of instruction; you'll not feel
separation.
You'll feel that He is with you. So we should associate by the
vibration,
and not by the physical presence. That is real association.
Sabdad
anavrtti. By sound. Just like we are touching Krsna immediately by
sound. Sound
vibration. SO WE SHOULD GIVE MORE STRESS ON THE SOUND VIBRATION,
EITHER OF
KRSNA OR OF THE SPIRITUAL MASTER. THEN WE'LL FEEL HAPPY AND NO
SEPARATION.
CC Concluding Words
Today, Sunday, November 10, 1974--corresponding to the 10th of
Kartikka,
Caitanya Era 488, the eleventh day of the dark fortnight, the
Rama-ekadasi--we
have now finished the English translation of Sri Krsnadasa Kaviraja
Gosvami' s
Sri Caitanya-caritamrta in accordance with the authorised order of His
Divine
Grace Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Gosvami Maharaja, my beloved
eternal
spiritual master, guide and friend.
Although according to material vision His Divine Grace Srila
Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura Prabhupada passed away from this
material
world on the last day of December, 1936, I still consider His Divine
Grace to be
always present with me by his vani, his words. There are two ways of
association--by vani and by vapu. Vani means words, and vapu means
physical
presence. PHYSICAL PRESENCE IS SOMETIMES APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT,
BUT VANI
CONTINUES TO EXIST ETERNALLY. THEREFORE WE MUST TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE
VANI, NOT
THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE. Bhagavad-gita, for example, is the vani of Lord
Krsna.
Although Krsna was personally present five thousand years ago and is no
longer
physically present from the materialistic point of view, Bhagavad-gita
continues.
75-11-04
Letter: Suci
You have rightly said that the best way to associate with the spiritual
master
is to follow his instructions. There are two ways of associating, by
vani and by
vapu. Vani means words and vapu means physical presence. PHYSICAL
PRESENCE IS
SOMETIMES APPRECIABLE AND SOMETIMES NOT. THEREFORE WE SHOULD TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF
THE VANI, NOT THE PHYSICAL PRESENCE, BECAUSE THE VANI CONTINUES TO
EXIST
ETERNALLY. Bhagavad-gita for example is the vani of Lord Krishna.
Although
Krishna was personally present 5,000 years ago and is no longer present
physically from the materialistic viewpoint, still Bhagavad-gita
continues. So
you have correctly concluded.
70-06-22
Letter: Hamsaduta
WE ARE NOT SEPARATED ACTUALLY. There are two--vani or vapu. So vapu is
physical
presence and vani is presence by the vibration, but they are all the
same. So
Krsna when He was physically present before Arjuna is the same when He
is
present before us by His vani of Bhagavad-gita. So far I am concerned,
I do not
factually feel any separation from my Spiritual Master because I am
trying to
serve Him according to His desire. That should be the motto. IF YOU
KINDLY TRY
TO FULFILL MY MISSION FOR WHICH YOU HAVE BEEN SENT THERE, THAT WILL BE
OUR
CONSTANT ASSOCIATION.
Note: gold is gold it does not change to iron BONA FIDE means genuine
it does
NOT lose its genuine feature otherwise it's a FAKE no falldowns.
Time eternal
(NITYA SIDDHA). Eternal includes past present and future THIS is Srila
Prabhupada. Srila Prabhupada IS our BONA FIDE spiritual master. This is
Srila
Prabhupada. And those who reject him are deviants who are after
PERSONAL
AGGRANDIZEMENT personal worship, money, followers.
Bg
4.42 P Transcendental Knowledge
A
BONA FIDE spiritual master is in the disciplic succession from TIME
ETERNAL, and
he does not deviate at all from the instructions of the Supreme Lord as
they
were imparted millions of years ago to the sun-god, from whom the
instructions
of Bhagavad-gita have come down to the earthly kingdom. One should,
therefore,
follow the path of Bhagavad-gita as it is expressed in the Gita itself
and
BEWARE OF SELF-INTERESTED PEOPLE AFTER PERSONAL AGGRANDIZEMENT WHO
DEVIATE
OTHERS FROM THE ACTUAL PATH.
Note:
deviants say (Acarya) Srila Prabhupada is not able to give diksa now.
SB
3.29.17
It is recommended herewith that all the acaryas be given the highest
respect. It
is stated, gurusu nara-matih. GURUSU MEANS "UNTO THE ACARYAS," and
nara-matih means "thinking like a common man." To think of the
Vaisnavas, the devotees, as belonging to a particular caste or
community, to
think of the acaryas as ordinary men or to think of the Deity in the
temple as
being made of stone, wood or metal, IS CONDEMNED.
Adi 7.115
In this connection the Padma Purana states, arcye visnau sila-dhir
gurusu
nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih: "One who considers the arca-murti,
the
worshipable Deity of Lord Visnu, to be stone, THE SPIRITUAL MASTER TO
BE AN
ORDINARY HUMAN BEING, and a Vaisnava to belong to a particular caste or
creed,
is possessed of HELLISH INTELLIGENCE." One who follows such conclusions
is
doomed.
Note:
formality was to be conducted by representatives of acarya.
Madhya
24.330
Similarly, a disciple's qualifications must be observed by the
spiritual master
before he is accepted as a disciple. In our Krsna consciousness
movement, the
requirement is that one must be prepared to give up the four pillars of
sinful
life-illicit sex, meat-eating, intoxication and gambling. In Western
countries
especially, we first observe whether a potential disciple is prepared
to follow
the regulative principles. Then he is given the name of a Vaisnava
servant and
initiated to chant the Hare Krsna maha-mantra, at least sixteen rounds
daily. In
this way the disciple renders devotional service under the guidance of
the
spiritual master OR HIS REPRESENTATIVE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS TO A
YEAR. He is
then recommended for a second initiation, during which a sacred thread
is
offered and the disciple is accepted as a bona fide brahmana.
Note:
Formality of Initiation by representatives as per Madhya 24.330 was to
create
brahmana's by Pancaratriki-vidhi process. Then gradually develop
to the stage
of ACTUAL qualifications of a QUALIFIED brahmana then Vaisnava.
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Lectures
Our
Sanatana Gosvami gives direction in the Hari-bhakti-vilasa that one man
can
become a brahmana by the regular process of diksa. Diksa, this
initiation,
cannot be offered to a sudra. Diksa cannot be offered to a sudra. But
in this
age, Kali-yuga, it is the statement of the sastras that in the
Kali-yuga most of
the population are sudras. Kalau sudra sambhavah. How they can be
initiated?
THIS INITIATION IS OFFERED NOT ACCORDING TO THE VEDIC RULES, BECAUSE IT
IS VERY
DIFFICULT TO FIND OUT A QUALIFIED BRAHMANA. DIKSA IS OFFERED TO A
QUALIFIED
BRAHMANA. THEREFORE THIS DIKSA IS OFFERED ACCORDING TO
PANCARATRIKI-VIDHI. THAT
IS RECOMMENDED IN THIS AGE. My spiritual master inaugurated this
Pancaratriki-vidhi, and we are following his footsteps. Anyone who is
inclined
to devote his life for Krsna, he should be accepted as brahmana.
75-08-04.
Letter: Madhudvisa:
Regarding
Sydney, that the President has left, if one does not follow the
regulative
principles, then he will leave. That is a fact. Has somebody else been
elected?
This is the function of the GBC, to see that one may not be taken away
by maya. The
GBC should all be the instructor gurus. I AM IN THE INITIATOR GURU, and
you
should be the instructor guru by teaching what I am teaching and doing
what I am
doing. This is not a title, but you must actually come to this
platform. This I
want.
Note:
this formality was the the function of Ritviks representatives of
Acarya (Srila
Prabhupada) as per July 9th 1977 letter knowledge DIKSA is
given by
ACARYA Srila Prabhupada. Even according to Srila Prabhupada's
books front
cover it is said ISKCON FOUNDER-ACARYA HIS DIVINE GRACE A C
BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI
PRABHUPADA Please note carefully founder HYPEN acarya means Srila
Prabhupada is
not simply ISKCON's founder BUT also Its ACARYA **also**
–FACT!
761016iv.cha
Conversations
Interviewer: What is the procedure of the movement? Do you initiate
yourself all
the disciples or do your other disciples also do that?
Prabhupada: Well, initiation or no initiation, first thing
is
knowledge. (break) ...knowledge. Initiation is
formality.
Just like you go to a school for knowledge, and admission is formality.
That
is not very important thing.
Note:
Tamal Krsna ADMITS they are CONDITIONED souls in 22 APRIL 1977 and
Srila
Prabhupada appointed them RITVIK ONLY.
NOTE:
in JULY 9th 1977 this is 3 months must be BIG
disappointment they were NOT ACARYA but Ritvik acarya
representatives of ACARYA (Srila Prabhupada). The letter was UNREVOKED.
So HOW
is it Just AFTER Srila Prabhupada passed (IN 4 months November)
they
appointed themselves "as good as God" Guru (acarya)?.
Simple
answer conditioned souls CHEAT.
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Conversations
Tamala Krsna: Well, I have studied myself and all of your disciples,
and it's
clear fact that we are all conditioned souls,
so we
cannot be guru. Maybe one day it may be possible...
Prabhupada: Hm.
Tamala Krsna: ...but not now.
Prabhupada: Yes. I shall choose some guru. I shall say, "Now you become
acarya. You become authorized." I am waiting for that. You become all
acarya. I retire completely. But the training must be complete.
Tamala Krsna: The process of purification must be there.
Prabhupada: Oh, yes, must be there. Caitanya Mahaprabhu wants that.
Amara ajnaya
guru hana. "You become guru." (laughs) But be qualified. Little thing,
strictly follower...
Tamala Krsna: Not rubber stamp.
Prabhupada: Then you'll not be effective. You can cheat,
but it will
not be effective. Just see our Gaudiya Matha. Everyone
wanted to
become guru, and a small temple and "guru." What kind of guru? No
publication, no preaching, simply bring some foodstuff... My Guru
Maharaja used
to say, "Joint mess," a place for eating and sleeping. Amar amar ara
takana (?)(Bengali): "Joint mess." He said this.
Note:If
the 2/3 majority votes "gurus" or Gaudiya maths present
"gurus" were Acarya "His Divine Graces" (Krishna speaks
through them) Why nobody except some sentimental followers are quoting
them.
This means they are NOT accepted as authority. Everybody QUOTES
Srila Prabhupada because everybody knows Krishna speaks through
him----this is
why he is **ACCEPTED AS AUTHORITY**. Note all the
acaryas are
QUOTED by all sections of society Bhaktivinode Thakura , Srila
Bhaktisiddhanta
sarasvati Thakura, His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada because Lord Krsna
MANIFESTS in their WORDS. Their words are SCRIPTURE. Others can but
talk parrot
fashion with no impact. Professional Bhagavatam reciters--bas!
Srila Prabhupada is the PROMINENT acarya as HE is the one who's
books are
LAWBOOKS NOW! He is quoted NOW!
68-04-12.
Letter: Dayananda
Regarding
parampara system: there is nothing to wonder for big gaps. Just like we
belong
to the Brahma Sampradaya, so we accept it from Krishna to Brahma,
Brahma to
Narada, Narada to Vyasadeva, Vyasadeva to Madhva, and between Vyasadeva
and
Madhva there is a big gap. But it is sometimes said that Vyasadeva is
still
living, and Madhva was fortunate enough to meet him directly. In a
similar way,
we find in the Bhagavad-gita that the Gita was taught to the sungod,
some
millions of years ago, but Krishna has mentioned only three names in
this
parampara system--namely, Vivasvan, Manu, and Iksvaku; and so these
gaps do
not hamper from understanding the parampara system. WE
HAVE TO
PICK UP THE PROMINENT ACARYAS, AND FOLLOW FROM HIM. There are
many
branches also from the parampara system, and it is not possible to
record all
the branches and sub-branches in the disciplic succession. We have to
pick up
from the authority of the acharya in whatever sampradaya we belong to.
Srila
Prabhupada is the
SB 3.29.17 P Explanation of Devotional Service by Lord Kapila
In
Bhagavad-gita, Thirteenth Chapter, it is clearly stated that one should
execute
devotional service and advance on the path of spiritual knowledge by accepting
the acarya. Acaryopasanam: one should worship an acarya, a
spiritual
master who knows things as they are. The spiritual master must
be in the
disciplic succession from Krsna. The predecessors of the
spiritual master
are his spiritual master, his grand spiritual master, his great-grand
spiritual
master and so on, who form the disciplic succession of acaryas.
Note
: Srila Prabhupada KNEW of the dangers "THERE IS VERY GREAT
UNDERCURRENT" he forbade his disciples from his Godbrothers THIS was
the
MAIN danger because they were clearly after his disciples,property,reputation
and money. He called his Godbrothers KANISTHA ADHIKARI. Srila
Prabhupada
KNEW they were IMITATING the role of ACARYA. Srila Prabhupada wanted to
protect
his disciples and the movement from these sahajiyas.
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Conversations
Prabhupada:
You should be very much determined, strong-minded. Otherwise it will
slip. Such
huge property...
Tamala
Krsna: Actually these properties are the envy of all of India. They're
the best
properties in each place.
Prabhupada:
Not only property. Our prestige, our position... Everything is envied.
Everywhere we are first class.
Tamala
Krsna: Yes. There's no rival.
Bhavananda:
THERE WILL BE MEN, I KNOW. THERE WILL BE MEN WHO WANT TO TRY AND POSE
THEMSELVES
AS GURU.
Tamala
Krsna: That was going on many years ago. YOUR GODBROTHERS WERE THINKING
LIKE
THAT. MADHAVA MAHARAJA...
Bhavananda:
Oh, yes. Oh, ready to jump.
Prabhupada:
Very strong management required and vigilant observation. (background
whispering, Tamala Krsna and Bhavananda) So you are foreign...
Gopala
Krsna: Beg your pardon?
Prabhupada:
You are foreign trained up. And you also idea how to protect our
interest.
Gopala
Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada, I'm always...
Prabhupada:
THERE IS VERY GREAT UNDERCURRENT.
Gopala
Krsna: I never trusted them much. I know those things. (background
whispering,
Bhavananda)
75-11-09. Letter: Visvakarma
Please
accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated September
3, 1975
with the enclosed statement about Van Maharaja. So I have now issued
orders that
all my disciples should avoid all of my godbrothers. THEY SHOULD NOT
HAVE ANY
DEALINGS WITH THEM NOR EVEN CORRESPONDENCE, NOR SHOULD THEY GIVE THEM
ANY OF MY
BOOKS OR SHOULD THEY PURCHASE ANY OF THEIR BOOKS, NEITHER SHOULD YOU
VISIT ANY
OF THEIR TEMPLES. PLEASE AVOID THEM.
74-04-28. Letter: Rupanuga
You
are right about Sridhara Maharaja's genuineness. But in my opinion he
is the
best of the lot. He is my old friend, AT LEAST HE EXECUTES THE
REGULATIVE
PRINCIPLES OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE. I do not wish to discuss about
activities of
my Godbrothers but it is a fact they have no life for preaching work.
All are
satisfied with a place for residence in the name of a temple, they
engage
disciples to get foodstuff by transcendental devices and eat and sleep.
They
have no idea or brain how to broacast the cult of Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu. My
Guru Maharaja used to lament many times for this reason and he thought
if one
man at least had understood the principle of preaching then his mission
would
achieve success. In the latter days of my Guru Maharaja he was very
disgusted.
Actually, he left this world earlier, otherwise he would have continued
to live
for more years. Still he requested his disciples to form a strong
Governing body
for preaching the cult of Caitanya Mahaprabhu. HE NEVER RECOMMENDED
ANYONE TO BE
ACARYA OF THE GAUDIYA MATH. BUT SRIDHARA MAHARAJA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR
DISOBEYING
THIS ORDER OF GURU MAHARAJA, AND HE AND OTHERS WHO ARE ALREADY DEAD
UNNECESSARILY THOUGHT THAT THERE MUST BE ONE ACARYA. If Guru Maharaja
could have
seen someone who was qualified at that time to be acarya he would have
mentioned. Because on the night before he passed away he talked of so
many
things, but never mentioned an acarya. His idea was acarya was not to
be
nominated amongst the governing body. He said openly you make a GBC and
conduct
the mission. So his idea was amongst the members of GBC who would come
out
successful and self effulgent acarya would be automatically selected.
So
Sridhara Maharaja and his two associate gentlemen unauthorizedly
selected one
acarya and later it proved a failure. THE RESULT IS NOW EVERYONE IS
CLAIMING TO
BE ACARYA EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY BE KANISTHA ADHIKARI WITH NO ABILITY TO
PREACH.
IN SOME OF THE CAMPS THE ACARYA IS BEING CHANGED THREE TIMES A YEAR.
THEREFORE
WE MAY NOT COMMIT THE SAME MISTAKE IN OUR ISKCON CAMP. ACTUALLY AMONGST
MY
GODBROTHERS NO ONE IS QUALIFIED TO BECOME ACARYA. SO IT IS BETTER NOT
TO MIX
WITH MY GODBROTHERS VERY INTIMATELY BECAUSE INSTEAD OF INSPIRING OUR
STUDENTS
AND DISCIPLES THEY MAY SOMETIMES POLLUTE THEM. This attempt was made
previously
by them, especially Madhava Maharaja and Tirtha Maharaja and Bon
Maharaja but
somehow or other I saved the situation. This is going on. We shall be
very
careful about them and not mix with them. This is my instruction to you
all.
They cannot help us in our movement, but they are very competent to
harm our
natural progress. So we must be very careful about them.
Note:
the sad part of ISKCON history is Srila Prabhupada's deviant
"disciples" did not listen to him and were polluted: accepted the
acarya disease lured by money, followers, adoration the following
result awaits
their destiny:
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The
Lord states that as soon as one reaches Him by devotional
service--which is the
one and only way to approach the Personality of Godhead--one attains
complete
freedom from the bondage of birth and death. In other words, the path
of
salvation from the material clutches fully depends on the principles of
knowledge and detachment gained from serving the Lord. THE PSEUDO
RELIGIONISTS
HAVE NEITHER KNOWLEDGE NOR DETACHMENT FROM MATERIAL AFFAIRS, FOR MOST
OF THEM
WANT TO LIVE IN THE GOLDEN SHACKLES OF MATERIAL BONDAGE UNDER THE
SHADOW OF
PHILANTHROPIC ACTIVITIES DISGUISED AS RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES. BY A FALSE
DISPLAY
OF RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS, THEY PRESENT A SHOW OF DEVOTIONAL SERVICE
WHILE
INDULGING IN ALL SORTS OF IMMORAL ACTIVITIES. IN THIS WAY THEY PASS AS
SPIRITUAL
MASTERS AND DEVOTEES OF GOD. SUCH VIOLATORS OF RELIGIOUS PRINCIPLES
HAVE NO
RESPECT FOR THE AUTHORITATIVE ACARYAS, THE HOLY TEACHERS IN THE STRICT
DISCIPLIC
SUCCESSION. THEY IGNORE THE VEDIC INJUNCTION ACARYOPASANA--"ONE MUST
WORSHIP THE ACARYA"--AND KRSNA'S STATEMENT IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA (4.2)
EVAM
PARAMPARA-PRAPTAM, "THIS SUPREME SCIENCE OF GOD IS RECEIVED THROUGH THE
DISCIPLIC SUCCESSION." INSTEAD, TO MISLEAD THE PEOPLE IN GENERAL THEY
THEMSELVES BECOME SO-CALLED ACARYAS, BUT THEY DO NOT EVEN FOLLOW THE
PRINCIPLES
OF THE ACARYAS.
THESE
ROGUES ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS ELEMENTS IN HUMAN SOCIETY.
BECAUSE
THERE IS NO RELIGIOUS GOVERNMENT, THEY ESCAPE PUNISHMENT BY THE LAW OF
THE
STATE. THEY CANNOT, HOWEVER, ESCAPE THE LAW OF THE SUPREME, WHO HAS
CLEARLY
DECLARED IN THE BHAGAVAD-GITA THAT ENVIOUS DEMONS IN THE GARB OF
RELIGIOUS
PROPAGANDISTS SHALL BE THROWN INTO THE DARKEST
REGIONS OF
HELL (BG. 16.19-20). SRI ISOPANISAD CONFIRMS THAT THESE
PSEUDO
RELIGIONISTS ARE HEADING TOWARD THE MOST OBNOXIOUS PLACE IN THE
UNIVERSE AFTER
THE COMPLETION OF THEIR SPIRITUAL MASTER BUSINESS, WHICH THEY CONDUCT
SIMPLY FOR
SENSE GRATIFICATION.
Note: becoming Vaisnava is not so cheap.
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Prabhupada:
Kanistha-adhikari means he must be a brahmana. That is
kanistha-adhikari.
The spiritual life, kanistha-adhikari, means he must be a QUALIFIED
brahmana. That is kanistha. What is esteemed as very high
position in
the material world, brahmana, that is kanistha-adhikari.
arcayam
eva haraye
pujam
yah sraddhayehate
na
tad-bhaktesu canyesu
sa
bhaktah prakrtah smrtah
The
brahmana means from the material stage gradually he is elevated to the
spiritual
stage. AND BELOW THE BRAHMANA THERE IS NO QUESTION OF VAISNAVA.
Note:
For those who do NOT wish to play at being " as good as God" acarya
then there is ample opportunity to QUALIFY as a Brahmana then as
Vaisnava to
achieve going back to Godhead back home. It is a question of being
truthful
where we are and progressing onwards march.
SB
1.2.20 P Divinity and Divine Service
The
very same thing is confirmed herein in the above words. No ordinary
man, or even
one who has attained success in human life, can know scientifically or
perfectly
the Personality of Godhead. Perfection of human life is attained when
one can
understand that he is not the product of matter but is in fact spirit.
And as
soon as one understands that he has nothing to do with matter, he at
once ceases
his material hankerings and becomes enlivened as a spiritual being.
This
attainment of success is possible when one is above the modes of
passion and
ignorance, or, in other words, when one is actually a brahmana by
qualification.
A BRAHMANA IS THE SYMBOL OF SATTVA-GUNA, OR THE MODE OF GOODNESS. AND
OTHERS,
WHO ARE NOT IN THE MODE OF GOODNESS, ARE EITHER KSATRIYAS, VAISYAS,
SUDRAS OR
LESS THAN THE SUDRAS. THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE IS THE HIGHEST STAGE OF
HUMAN LIFE
BECAUSE OF ITS GOOD QUALITIES. SO ONE CANNOT BE A DEVOTEE UNLESS ONE AT
LEAST
QUALIFIES AS A BRAHMANA. The devotee is already a brahmana by action.
But that
is not the end of it. AS REFERRED TO ABOVE, SUCH A BRAHMANA HAS TO
BECOME A
VAISNAVA IN FACT TO BE ACTUALLY IN THE TRANSCENDENTAL STAGE. A PURE
VAISNAVA
IS A LIBERATED SOUL AND IS TRANSCENDENTAL EVEN TO THE POSITION OF A
BRAHMANA.
IN THE MATERIAL STAGE EVEN A BRAHMANA IS ALSO A CONDITIONED SOUL
BECAUSE
ALTHOUGH IN THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE THE CONCEPTION OF BRAHMAN OR
TRANSCENDENCE IS
REALIZED, SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE OF THE SUPREME LORD IS LACKING. ONE
HAS TO
SURPASS THE BRAHMINICAL STAGE AND REACH THE VASUDEVA STAGE TO
UNDERSTAND THE
PERSONALITY OF GODHEAD KRSNA.
Note:
Krsna is the benefactor of the TRUTHFUL devotee means Brahmana quality
so if one
WANTS to achieve Krsna then Krsna helps. Man is the architect of his
fortune and
misfortune so either one can accept Srila Prabhupada as DIKSA guru or
refuse him
this is the choice. Why did the soul come to this material world?
because of
iccha and the soul can also compete with the acarya Srila Prabhupada
(Krsna's
Representative) on equal level thus he is captured in material bondage
again.
SB
3.27.20 P Understanding Material Nature
Material
bondage is caused by putting oneself under the control of matter
because of the
false ego of lording it over material nature. Bhagavad-gita (7.27)
states,
iccha-dvesa-samutthena. Two kinds of propensities arise in the living
entity.
One propensity is iccha, which means desire to lord it over material
nature or
to be as great as the Supreme Lord. Everyone desires to be the greatest
personality in this material world. Dvesa means "envy." When one
becomes envious of Krsna, or the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one
thinks,
"Why should Krsna be the all and all? I'm as good as Krsna."
SB
1.2.17 T Divinity and Divine Service
srnvatam
sva-kathah krsnah
punya-sravana-kirtanah
hrdy
antah stho hy abhadrani
vidhunoti
suhrt satam
SYNONYMS
srnvatam--those
who have developed the urge to hear the message of; sva-kathah--His own
words;
krsnah--the Personality of Godhead; punya--virtues; sravana--hearing;
kirtanah--chanting;
hrdi antah sthah--within one's heart; hi--certainly; abhadrani--desire
to enjoy
matter; VIDHUNOTI--CLEANSES; SUHRT--BENEFACTOR; SATAM--OF THE
TRUTHFUL.
TRANSLATION
Sri
Krsna, the Personality of Godhead, who is the Paramatma [Supersoul] in
everyone's heart and the BENEFACTOR OF THE TRUTHFUL DEVOTEE,
cleanses desire for material enjoyment from the heart of the devotee
who has
developed the urge to hear His messages, which are in themselves
virtuous when
properly heard and chanted.
Note:
We are fully aware of Srila Prabhupada's potency to give diksa
thru his books
so pretenders especially from the bogus Gaudiya camp and GBC's
IS_CON camp are
offenders. The offense described is maryada-vyatikrama.
SB
3.4.26 Vidura Approaches Maitreya
Sri
Uddhava said: You may take lessons from the great learned sage
Maitreya, who is
nearby and who is worshipable for reception of transcendental
knowledge. He was
directly instructed by the Personality of Godhead while He was about to
quit
this mortal world.
PURPORT
Although
one may be well versed in the transcendental science, one should be
careful
about the offense of maryada-vyatikrama, or impertinently surpassing a
greater
personality.
According to scriptural injunction one should be very careful of
transgressing
the law of maryada-vyatikrama because by so doing one loses his
duration of
life, his opulence, fame and piety and the blessings of all the world.
To be
well versed in the transcendental science necessitates awareness of the
techniques of spiritual science. Uddhava, being well aware of all these
technicalities of transcendental science, advised Vidura to approach
Maitreya
Rsi to receive transcendental knowledge. Vidura wanted to accept
Uddhava as his
spiritual master, but Uddhava did not accept the post because Vidura
was as old
as Uddhava's father and therefore Uddhava could not accept him as his
disciple,
especially when Maitreya was present nearby. The rule is that in
the
presence of a higher personality one should not be very eager to impart
instructions, even if one is competent and well versed. So
Uddhava
decided to send an elderly person like Vidura to Maitreya, another
elderly
person, but he was well versed also because he was directly instructed
by the
Lord while He was about to quit this mortal world. Since both Uddhava
and
Maitreya were directly instructed by the Lord, both had the authority
to become
the spiritual master of Vidura or anyone else, but Maitreya, being
elderly, had
the first claim to becoming the spiritual master, especially for
Vidura, who was
much older than Uddhava. One should not be eager to become a spiritual
master
cheaply for the sake of profit and fame, but should become a spiritual
master
only for the service of the Lord. The Lord never tolerates the
impertinence of maryada-vyatikrama. One should never pass over the
honor due to
an elderly spiritual master in the interests of one's own personal gain
and
fame. Impertinence on the part of the pseudo spiritual master is very
risky to
progressive spiritual realization.
Note:
there are two main offender classes who are envious of Srila
Prabhupada's
success and they want to REPLACE Srila Prabhupada with themselves as
guru.
NARAYANA
MAHARAJA AND SRIDHARA MAHARAJA INSULTED SRILA PRABHUPADA.
From
the letter below one can see that history repeats itself because they
are
conditioned souls they ventured to initiate Srila Prabhupada's
disciples.
Thus, they were caught out as Srila Prabhupada clearly says of the
action
"SO IT IS DELIBERATE TRANSGRESSION OF VAISNAVA ETIQUETTES AND OTHERWISE
A
DELIBERATE INSULT TO ME. I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE HAS DONE LIKE THIS BUT NO
VAISNAVA
WILL APPROVE OF THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION."
68-03-26.
Letter: Mukunda
In
meantime, I have also received one letter which is very depressing from
Hrsikesa.
I understand that he has been induced by Bon Maharaja to be initiated
by him for
giving him shelter, and this foolish boy has accepted his inducement.
This isn't
very happy news, and I have replied Hrsikesa's letter in the following
words,
which please take note, and in the future, we shall be very cautious
about them.
"My Dear Hrsikesa, Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of
your
letter of March 14, 1968, and I am greatly surprised. I AM GREATLY
SURPRISED FOR
BON MAHARAJA'S INITIATING YOU IN SPITE OF HIS KNOWING THAT YOU ARE
ALREADY
INITIATED BY ME. SO IT IS DELIBERATE TRANSGRESSION OF VAISNAVA
ETIQUETTES AND
OTHERWISE A DELIBERATE INSULT TO ME. I DO NOT KNOW WHY HE HAS DONE LIKE
THIS BUT
NO VAISNAVA WILL APPROVE OF THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION. I very much
appreciate your
acknowledgement of my service unto you and you will always have my
blessings,
BUT YOU MUST KNOW THAT YOU HAVE COMMITTEE. A GREAT BLUNDER. I do not
wish to
discuss on this point more elaborately now, but if you are desirous to
know
further about it, I shall be glad to give you more enlightenment.
Mukunda is not
here. He has gone to L.A. Hope you are well." If Hrsikesa writes you
letter
I think you may avoid reply. I DO NOT APPROVE BOTH HRSIKESA'S AND BON
MAHARAJA'S
THIS OFFENSIVE ACTION. Hoping you are both well.
Note:
In venturing to initiate Srila Prabhupada's disciples ---they
could not even
have understood the philosophy properly. As It is clearly stated: A
DEVOTEE MUST
HAVE ONLY ONE INITIATING SPIRITUAL MASTER BECAUSE IN THE SCRIPTURES
ACCEPTANCE
OF MORE THAN ONE IS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN. For them to Initiate Srila
Prabhupada's
disciples they would be falling into a trap of REJECTING Srila
Prabhupada as the
Initiating Guru---DIRECT INSULT--committed BOTH by the so-called
disciple of
Srila Prabhupada and their conditioned soul guides (Narayana Maharaja
or
Sridhara Maharaja).
Adi
1.35 The Spiritual Masters
The
expert spiritual master knows well how to engage his disciple's energy
in the
transcendental loving service of the Lord, and thus he engages a
devotee in a
specific devotional service according to his special tendency. A
DEVOTEE MUST
HAVE ONLY ONE INITIATING SPIRITUAL MASTER BECAUSE IN THE SCRIPTURES
ACCEPTANCE
OF MORE THAN ONE IS ALWAYS FORBIDDEN.
GUIDE FOR THE SRILA PRABHUPADA'S SAMADHI CEREMONY----ONLY!!
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Prabhupada:
Do you think in this stage is it possible?
Tamala
Krsna: I think it would be difficult. Better that we go parikram-ing
around our
temple, Krsna-Balarama Mandira. That's a little easier. Don't you think
that's
better? If you get a little stronger, then it may be possible. That
will depend
on Krsna. So Krsna dasa, we should bring him here. Anyone else you want
to see?
NARAYANA MAHARAJA? YES. WE WENT TO SEE HIM JUST TO INQUIRE ABOUT THE
NECESSARY
CEREMONY, and he gave us instruction. I sent Bhakti-caru Maharaja and
Bhakti-prema Maharaja, and they wrote down everything. But Narayana
Maharaja was
very concerned. He said he's going to try to come to see you tomorrow.
That's
all right, isn't it? So Krsna dasa can be called for. Anytime? Okay. He
stays at
Radha-kunda? We'll inquire... Does he stay at the Gaudiya Matha here?
Prabhupada:
Hm.
Tamala
Krsna: He does. In Vrndavana. Okay.
Prabhupada:
Narayana Maharaja comes; then everything is all right.
Tamala
Krsna: So if I call Narayana Maharaja, is there any need for Krsna dasa
to come?
Prabhupada:
He can arrange.
Tamala
Krsna: Narayana Maharaja. Yes, actually he wanted to do that. He gave
us
instructions, but he also wanted to take part. So better I call
Narayana
Maharaja than Krsna dasa? Okay. I'll send a car for him tomorrow
morning. He was
saying he was thinking to come tomorrow, so I'll send a car and say
"Prabhupada requests if it's convenient that you can come this
morning." That'll be all right? Jaya Srila Prabhupada. (break)
Prabhupada:
When you have come back?
Bhagavata:
I just came just now, a half hour before, from America.
Upendra:
And he's real skinny, Srila Prabhupada. He's skinny.
Prabhupada:
Why?
Bhagavata:
Because I am following caturmasya. I have reduced to 160 pounds. Before
I was
260. Now I am 160.
Prabhupada:
Very nice.
Bhagavata:
Shall I chant?
Prabhupada:
Yes. (kirtana begins) (Bengali conversation) Who is here?
Tamala
Krsna: Tamala Krsna.
Prabhupada:
Have kirtana. (pause) So after my passing away, these, all the temples,
they
should receive some money for holding utsava.
Tamala
Krsna: In your honor.
Prabhupada:
Yes, in the temple.
Tamala
Krsna: Yes, Prabhupada.
Gurukrpa:
Jaya Prabhupada.
Prabhupada:
Who is he?
Tamala
Krsna: Gurukrpa Swami.
Prabhupada:
Go on kirtana. (kirtana begins)
Tamala
Krsna: Closed? Open? (break)
Prabhupada:
(Bengali)
Bhakti-caru:
(Bengali) (break)
Hari-sauri:
Bhavananda? Prabhupada said that somebody was saying that Bhavananda
was coming.
Tamala
Krsna: Yes. Bhakti-caru telegrammed to Bhavananda and Jayapataka and
Satadhanya
Swami to come immediately. That all right? (break)
Bhakti-caru:
(Bengali)
Prabhupada:
(Bengali conversation)
Tamala
Krsna: He wants to see a panditaji from there. So can you get that
panditaji?
You want to see him tonight, Srila Prabhupada?
Prabhupada:
(Bengali) And Narayana Maharaja, he'll come tomorrow?
Tamala
Krsna: He'll come when we... Tonight could he come? You think that's
too late?
Bhakti-caru:
I think he'll come, if we go and pick him up.
Tamala
Krsna: If we pick him up, he might come tonight.
Prabhupada:
Hm?
Tamala
Krsna: If we go just now with the car, Bhakti-caru goes just now with
the car,
he may come tonight, Narayana Maharaja.
Prabhupada:
Hm. Go on, kirtana. (break)
Tamala
Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada. Shall we put a little fan on? Little bit?
(break)
Prabhupada:
(Bengali) (Bengali conversation with Godbrothers, followed by kirtana,
Sri Rupa
Manjari Pada) Where is Tamala?
Hari-sauri:
Get Tamala Krsna. He's just coming, Srila Prabhupada. He's in the other
room.
Prabhupada:
(Bengali conversation)
Hari-sauri:
Jaya Srila Prabhupada. Tamala Krsna.
Prabhupada:
You have consulted with Narayana Maharaja?
Tamala
Krsna: YES. THIS MORNING BHAKTI-CARU SWAMI, BHAKTI-PREMA SWAMI AND
SRIDHARA
SWAMI WENT TO SEE HIM, AND NARAYANA MAHARAJA DESCRIBED THE CEREMONY FOR
THE
DEPARTURE OF A VAISNAVA, GREAT VAISNAVA SOUL.
Narayana
Maharaja: (Bengali)
Prabhupada:
(Bengali) ...entrance right side?
Tamala
Krsna: The entrance on the left side entering... Looking towards the
Deity, it's
the left side. In other words, when you come into the temple it's on
left side.
There's a big open area. (Bengali)
Tamala
Krsna: It's on the same side as the vyasasana.
Prabhupada:
Ah, yes.
Tamala
Krsna: Faces east.
Prabhupada:
Puspa, Mayapure, flower.
Tamala
Krsna: To Mayapura.
Prabhupada:
(Bengali)
Narayana
Maharaja: You should call me, and I will come.
Tamala
Krsna: Yes. He described the entire ceremony in detail, Srila
Prabhupada.
Prabhupada:
So he knows. When you are ready(?), let him have it. (Bengali)
Narayana
Maharaja: (Bengali) You have fulfilled all, everything. (Bengali)
Prabhupada:
Don't fight amongst yourselves. I HAVE GIVEN THE EXPLANATION,
MY WILL.
EXECUTE LIKE THAT.
Tamala
Krsna: Yes, Srila Prabhupada.
Prabhupada:
And then everything will be. They'll guide. Then what there is.
(Bengali)
Ekadasi?
Narayana
Maharaja: Ekadasi.
Prabhupada: (Bengali) (Hamsaduta chants) (end)
Note:
Sometimes the sahajiyas try and CHEAT devotees to make them think Srila
Prabhupada invited the Gaudiya math offenders to guide ISKCON. They
MANIPULATE
by using such a statement of Srila Prabhupada like "They'll guide".
But –take a LOOK at the WHOLE CONTEXT. This guidance is in
reference to SRILA
PRABHUPADA'S SAMADHI ARRANGEMENTS CEREMONY--NOTHING MORE!
Note
: if the July 9th 1977 letter was followed
then the WILL
would STILL BE IN FORCE. Because
Srila Prabhupada's disciples would NOT exhaust say after 100
years . But
Narayan Maharaja wants to steal Srila Prabhupada's disciples and
render the
WILL defunct. As the July 9th 1977 letter was NEVER revoked by Srila
Prabhupada
and therefore ALL the disciples CONTINUE to be Srila Prabhupada's for
AS LONG AS
ISKCON EXISTS. WHY Narayana maharaja is completely opposed to it and
even
rejects it? Simple answer: Narayana maharaja wants to steal Srila
Prabhupada's
disciples! He has also been changing the disciples names (reinitiation)
but will
not admit it. VERY devious.
Srila
Prabhupada's Will
The executive directors who have herein been designated are appointed
for life.
In the event of death or failure to act for any reason of any of the
said
directors, a successor director or directors may be appointed by the
remaining
directors, PROVIDED THE NEW DIRECTOR IS MY INITIATED DISCIPLE FOLLOWING
STRICTLY
ALL THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA
CONSCIOUSNESS AS DETAILED IN MY BOOKS, and provided that there are
never less
than three (3) or more than five (5) exeutive directors acting at one
time.
SRILA
PRABHUPADA ONLY APPOINTED NARAYANA MAHARAJA AND OTHER GAUDIYA MATHA
OFFENDERS AS
SAMADHI CEREMONY GUIDE--BAS! (IT APPEARS
SRILA
PRABHUPADA KNEW THIS IS ONE CEREMONY THEY WOULD JOYOUSLY
PERFORM
---BECAUSE OF THEIR ENVY TOWARDS HIM). THEY WERE JUST
WAITING TO
CAPTURE ISKCON.
--- OM TAT SAT ---