1) "POISON REPORT" SUMARY (pada)
+ who is really writing GBC rebuttal?
* POWERPOINT PROTEGE
2) BALAVANTA REPORT
3) ISKCON FARM BEING SOLD?

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1) "POISON REPORT" SUMARY (pada)

PADA summary: Neither the GBC, or the folks in the "ISKCON Revival
Movement" who have opposed Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint and others,
have come up with any good explantion for the high amounts of arsenic found
in Srila Prabhupada's hair sample. Nor have they come up with a good
explantion why the "posion tape" was hidden from the public until it was
given to pada in 1997 by a person (AD) who feared for his life?

And this AD was present in Vrindavana in November, 1977, and he recalls
Bhakti Caru crying outside of Srila Prabhupada's room because "Srila
Prabhupada was saying that someone had gave him poison." So why was Bhakti
Caru crying if the complaint had no substance? And why did AD, who talked
to Bhakti Caru in 1977, immediately fear for his life as soon as he heard
about the poison complaint, because he knew that it could be very dangerous
to discuss it further?

Or why does Tamal ask (on the tape which was hidden), "WHO is it who gave
the poison," i.e. a conversation about a person giving Srila Prabhupada
poison had taken place? Or for that matter, why are so many other tapes are
missing, which would tend to support a "foul play" motive?

Nor have they come up with a good explantion why hundreds of hindi and
bengali speaking people, such as several Los Angeles bengali brahmacharis,
folks like ex-GBC Naveen Krishna, ex-GBC Nava Yogendra swami, and including
residents of Vrindavana and people from Calcutta that we asked, right away
conclude that Srila Prabhupada is saying he is being poisoned when they
hear the tape? Nor have they any explanation why the GBC was still
whispering after they had been ordered not to? Nor do they have any good
explanation for the content of the whispers as was published in
Nityananda's book, and in audio format on the internet?

Nor have they come up with a good explanation for the whispers period. Nor
have they any good explantion why Srila Prabhupada says "do not torture me
and put me to death," "Ravana will kill me if I stay in this room." Or why
was the GBC discussing the feeding of other gurus broken glass and poison?
And why was a Calcutta lawyer's "poisoning murder case" was being
discussed? And why does Bhavananda start almost laughing when the lawyer's
poison murder issue is brought up? And why has Srila Prabhupada been
alleged to have said "some (of the GBC) are waiting for the old man to die"
(so they can take over)? And so on ad infinitum?

And why does the kaviraja say that if Srila Prabhupada says he is being
poisoned, it must be true, yet the GBC and certain IRM members still doubt
even now, despite that we have finally have the November tape, which was
mysteriously hidden, and the confirming whispers, and the arsenic, etc. so
why do they have a reason to remain doubtful?

To sum, (Mahabuddhi) ...You are correct in your analysis. No arsenic in any
well, Yet 20 times normal found in SP hair, plus additional hair samples
not completed (which may show even a higher percentage). The GBC did a
whitewash report, which CHAKRA is trying to market as the Authoritive
"Powerpoint Puranna", nothing more than TKG's disciple given some $$ to put
some report together the mushrooms can accept.

Meanwhile multiple forensic's investigators attest "poison" in whispers on
the final tapes. Their is enough evidence, via medical examiners reports
and physician's to lodge a civil suit in the USA. Who knows what can be
done in India. Now, is the time for the attorneys to give some suggestions
as further investigation is still forthcoming, with testimonials from
witnesses. ys Mahabuddhi dasa

And who is the GBC's "poison investigator"?

Subject: POWERPOINT PROTEGE
Date: Wednesday, March 01, 2000 10:09 PM

POWERPOINT PROTEGE
By Anonymous. Who is this Gaura Hari Das? The 'ace in the hole.' Iskcon's
acclaimed champion and gbc advocate. The power-point-presenter who appeared from out
of the blue and convinced iskcon leaders that Balavanta prabhu's three year
investigation was 'inconclusive.' He did not stop there, but went on to
assure the leaders that there was no case to answer. Yes, everyone wants to
know about this presenter/ advocate/ scientist/ devotee and gbc champion.

The fact is, there isn't really very much to tell. Gaura Hari Das (David
Hooper) joined iskcon a year before Balavanta prabhu began his
investigations. A science graduate, fresh out of university ( without any
post-grad experience) he joined Brisbane temple as a bhramacari. A very
gentle devotee with a penchant for music, he served in various capacities
until taking initiation from JPS. After his initiation he returned from
Mayapur with a desire for Nama hatta ( inspired by JPS's 'cell' idea).
Soon he was involved with raising funds for Brisbane's new temple and
preaching amongst the Indian congregation.

However, this seva was disrupted (at the expense of the temple programme)
when the poison issue pointed at TKG. Why would a young devotee become
embroiled in such a heavy issue? Why is he sacrificing the opportunity to
develop Visnu smaran? Why is he defending so vehemently TKG who has so many
capable disciples? Does the answer lie with Tirtha Raj Das (TKG), temple
president of Brisbane and ambitious deputy gbc? Is he the one using
Hooper's degree to voice his guru's defense?

Is he the one who phoned Jack Mitchell the forensic investigator,
threatening him with legal action and worse? Who has transformed Deva Gaura
Hari das into a power-point-protagonist, when not so long ago his
singing-voice trembled with self-consciousness? When spoken to about temple
management (mismanagement) he would say, "I am just a bhramacari prabhu."
What has caused him to change so dramatically?

He is about to release a book on his 'scientific conclusions.' Who is
sponsoring the manuscript appraisal? the editing and publication? And who
is financing his eight month tour of Europe (with his new wife)? Is it a
gbc sponsored propaganda mandate? The word going out is that DGH das has
been summoned to Europe by Indradyumna swami to help with some electrical
work. One can't help but wonder at the nature of this electrical work. Is
it a 'short circuit'? Does it need eight months to fix? Is our scientist a
'sparky' as well? How wonderfully talented.

And is the maharaja paying for the newlyweds? Dear Deva Gaura Hari prabhu,
please let us poor grhastas know how you h ave amassed so much laxmi as a
brahmacari. Is it the lucrative 'Indian congregation preaching?' or is it
power-point-politics? Whatever your answer, remember; we are all victims of
our own device.

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2) BALAVANTA REPORT

From: Gbcabused@aol.com
Date: March 1, 2000 21:11:09 EST

February 12, 2000
His Holiness Bir Krishna das Goswami
Chairman Governing Body Commision
International Society for Krishna Consciousness
P.O. Box 897
Hillsborough, N.C. 27278, U.S.A.
E-mail 70324.1511@compuserve.com

Re: Forensic Investigation

Dear Bir Krishna Maharaj:

On September 23, 1997, you wrote as Vice Chairman of the Governing Body
Commission and representative of the its Executive Committee. Your concern
was that some members of the society had raised questions about recorded
statements of His Divine Grace, Srila Prabhupada which they believed
indicated that he may have been given poison. You asked that I conduct a
forensic investigation.

[PADA: Notice that the GBC has asked Balavanta to conduct an investigation,
but then they have not properly supported him (they have instead been
crticial of his report in the background even before it was published) nor
have they properly funded him. In short, how can we expect Balavanta to
conduct a full-scale forensics investigation -- and not give him the proper
support/ funds? This is like hiring a carpenter to fix your house, then
refusing to pay for the wood he needs?]

BALAVANTA: We agreed that Srila Prabhupada's life was under the control of
the divine energy in all respects and thus not subject to material
considerations especially in regard to his presence or departure from this
world. Nonetheless, you and others felt that an investigation into various
pieces of material evidence related to his departure would be prudent under
the circumstances. I agreed to assist the GBC in that regard.

[PADA: Notice that even the GBC recognizes that there is sufficent evidence
of potential poisoning to warrant a full investigation.]

BALAVANTA: On November 8, 1977, Srila Prabhupada commented that "Someone
has said that I have been given poison." Who said? "They say; they all say."

[PADA: And this appears to be a confirmation of the whispers. If "they all
say" that I am being given poison, this could easily refer to "all" of the
nearby persons who are whispering. Srila Prabhupada also says "I do not
know (who says) but it is said." So, "it is said" means "my being poisoned
is being discussed." And who is discussing, if not the people around him,
i.e. some of the GBC?]

BALAVANTA: He was pressed later and responded, "Not said, but that I have
the symptoms of one who has been poisoned."

[PADA: Yes, it is "being said" by "all these persons" that I am being given
poison, and "I also have the symptoms of a person who is being given poison."]

BALAVANTA: I also received a hair clipper from the Museum which I sent to
Dr. Steven Morris of the University of Missouri. Dr. Morris operates one of
the world's most advanced technologies for microscopic analysis and is
himself an authority on the subject. Having obtained a hair embedded on the
movable cutter of the clipper, he subjected it to analysis. He found
arsenic in the hair in the amount of 2.6 parts per million which he
considered to be twenty (20) times greater than would be expected in an
average person living in the United States. (Dr. Morris's report is
attached as exhibit B)

[PADA: This is also reported in Nityananda's book, that there is an
unexplained very high dosage of arsenic found in the hair sample. Neither
the GBC, or folks in the ISKCON reform movment who have opposed the poison
complaint, have come up with any good explantion for this high amount of arsenic.]

BALAVANTA: I obtained additional samples of Srila Prabhupada's hair to
submit to Dr. Morris for analysis. He was prepared to perform these tests
when he was contacted by a Mr. Hooper from Australia who indicated that he
was also working on the investigation. Mr. Hooper was not working with me
and I do not know him or his role in your investigation.

[PADA: Could it be that the GBC's Mr. Hooper was working on sabatoging the
investigation because Balavanta was making headway with his initial hair
sample analysis? Could it be that the GBC realized that too much progress
was being made, and therefore the sent in Mr. Hooper to harass, confute and
contaminate the hair sample anaylsis, perhaps they even threatened Mr.
Morris like the tape forensic's man was alleged to have been threatened
with a lawsuit?]

BALAVANTA: Following this contact, Dr. Morris decided to assess a
substantial charge for his continuing efforts. I contacted you to ask for
the funds to complete the study, but they have not been forthcoming.

[PADA: The GBC sabatoged the Balavanta investigation, then they would not
repair their damage and get the investigation back on track. What else is new?]

BALAVANTA: Richard Callery, M.D., the medical examiner for the State of
Delaware, stated that the amount of arsenic found in Srila Prabhupada's
hair would not have been lethal in itself. However, if administered over a
duration of time or to a person already in frail health, this dosage could
have been significant.

[PADA: READ: This dosage could be fatal if given over time, which many
suspect is the case.]

BALAVANTA: He commented that a single exposure producing the indicated
levels may not have produced specific symptoms although intermittent
instances of exposure would likely have caused some level of gastric
disturbance. (Dr. Callary's report is attached as exhibit C)

[PADA: And Srila Prabhupada complained of gastric difficulties.]

BALAVANTA: The amount of arsenic found in Srila Prabhupada's hair is also
consistent with environmental exposure.

[PADA: Yes, but you have to be in an environment where this level of
arsenic is found. Why aren't other members of Srila Prabhupada's party
afflicted by arsenic if it was "found in the environment."]

BALAVANTA: ...I obtained water samples from the current wells in Mayapur
and Vrindavan and subjected them to analysis in the United States. The
water in Vrindavan did not contain appreciable levels of arsenic. Srila
Prabhupada's Mayapur well (from the second floor kitchen in the original
building) also did not contain appreciable levels of arsenic.

[PADA: Therefore, "the known environment" could not have produced this
level of arsenic. Again, others in Srila Prabhupada's party have not had
this problem.]

BALAVANTA: The well by the gate in Mayapur (not used for drinking) did,
however, contain arsenic contamination. (These reports are attached as
composite exhibit D) Some questions are currently unanswered in this
regard. What length of exposure would produce the levels obtained? What
amounts? How long would arsenic remain in the body following exposure? May
a well be clear at one time and contaminated at another?

[PADA: And the real question is: why aren't other people having serious
arsenic poison problems in the same environment?]

BALAVANTA: To reconstruct Srila Prabhupada's medical history, I compiled a
chronology of events which is attached as exhibit F. An attorney in London
attempted to obtain Srila Prabhupada's medical records from Peace Memorial
Hospital (now Watford General) where he was seen and treated in mid 1977.
However, the hospital routinely destroyed all records from this time
period, and they are, therefore, no longer available. (The report in this
regard is attached as exhibit F)

[PADA: And the problem Srila Prabhupada had in England is that he could not
pass urine, a symptom consistent with poisoning.]

BALAVANTA: I do not have, by the time of this writing, a professional
diagnosis of Srila Prabhupada's condition based upon his medical history. I
have seen one prepared for another investigator as well as a statement
attributed to a physician who was said to have seen Srila Prabhupada in
London. I cannot comment on these reports as I have not studied them in
detail although generally they do not appear to be unreasonable.

[PADA: Was a test made to find arsenic? We doubt it.]

BALAVANTA: Perhaps the most controversial aspect of the investigation thus
far has been the analysis of whispers from tapes of Srila Prabhupada's
bedside in 1977. Dr. J.P. French of York, UK, an internationally recognized
recording analyst studied some of the sections of the tapes. He reported
that, in his opinion, the first phrase stated "(its going), its going
down." He thought the second was "its not poison ... ". He considered the
third to be unintelligible. Dr. French's report is attached as exhibit G.

[PADA: Well why is the word "poison" being used at all in Srila
Prabhupada's presence? Why do we keep finding so many references to this
word in November, 1977?]

BALAVANTA: Jack Mitchell of Albuquerque, New Mexico was contacted by other
persons interested in the investigation.

[PADA: And he found very substantial poison messages in the whispers. Why
wasn't his investigation included in Balavanta's as supporting evidence?]

BALAVANTA: Mr. Mitchell's report has already been circulated. Although I do
not know Mr. Mitchell, I have no reason to believe that he is anything
other than a competent and professional individual.

[PADA: And his analysis shows very suspicious poison whisper messages.]

BALAVANTA: In general, the content of the whispers on the tapes is not
clearly identifiable. Much is left to the ear of the listener. Although the
above authorities have offered opinions as to what the voices likely say,
doubt remains as to what they actually say. In other words we have not yet
reached and may never reach a level of certainty as to content of the
whispers.

[PADA: Well, most of the people who hear the whispers are certain that some
conspiracy is afoot, and since the word "poison" is found, repeatedly, and
since Srila Prabhupada says he is being poisoned, the "certain conclusion"
is that there was some foul play going on, and it is related to poison.]

BALAVANTA: To a large degree this is inherent in the nature of a whisper;
the very act of whispering involves a concealing of the substance if not
the existence of the communication. Perhaps future technology will be of
some benefit in this regard.

[PADA: And Srila Prabhupada complained to the GBC about their whispering,
ordering them to stop, as he did in early November. Yet they continued to
whisper. So at least we know that they were discussing something in secret,
right in Srila Prabhupada's presence, and what to speak of what they were
speaking in secret elsewhere.]

BALAVANTA: ...I did, however, informally interview Dr. Norottma Lal who
attended Srila Prabhupada in Vrindavan. He informed me that there should be
no arsenic in Makaradhwaj. He also stated that in his opinion, Srila
Prabhupada had symptoms of liver damage. This, he thought, could lead to
kidney damage and could also be responsible for swelling.

[PADA: So what is the source of the arsenic?]

CONCLUSION

The investigation is not complete. For example, Dr. Morris has additional
hair samples to analyze. The diagnosis by history has not been
accomplished. Additional areas of study can be considered. There can be no
doubt that Srila Prabhupada was and always will be the transparent,
transcendental via media to spiritual reality. As such he can
never be harmed by anyone anymore than Krishna, Himself, can be harmed by
anyone. Sometimes Lord Krishna takes the form of the archa vigraha, but
even in this form He cannot be harmed by any material thing. Similarly,
although Srila Prabhupada appears in this material world, he cannot be
harmed by anything in it. Like Arjuna, he is always under the Lord's
protection. Nonetheless, because the issue has arisen relative to his
earthly pastimes and may be significant to the management of his mission, I
recommend that the GBC now work toward the resolution of this matter with a
view toward reaching a just and objective conclusion.

I am, Your eternal servant, Balavanta das

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3) ISKCON FARM BEING SOLD?

On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, iscowp wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: COM: Prahladananda Swami
Thank you for the comments on the discussion. It seems from the discussion
that practically to get devotees to work the land one would practically
have to be fairly liberal in leasing the land. Then the other problem is
supervising who is given the land and how much they should give in return.

In a country like Spain there have been certain problems like:
1. Few devotees have any real interest in farming.
2. There are a number of devotees on the farm who have little interest in
Krsna consciousness.
3. Honesty in the case of a number of devotees is questionable.
4. The devotees who would have the ability to supervise the situation are
also rare.
5. The criteria for who can get the land, how they should use it, and what
they should give in return seems very complicated.
Given the above, selling the land and using it for some smaller project
would seem more straight forward and perhaps less entangling. Hope all is
well.
Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada,
Prahladananda Swami>

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* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (The GBC)
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* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
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* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch
* http://www.vnn.org/ (VNN news)

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
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