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All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!
* NEW WHISPERS
* "POISON" IS NOT PADA'S IDEA
1) THE DEVOTEE CANCER EPIDEMIC (by pada)
2) PANCHA TATTVA ANALYSIS BY PADA (who is minding the store)?
3) BHAVANANDA IS STILL IN CHARGE OF AUSTRALIA
4) IF YOU WORSHIP A RASCAL, THEN YOUR LIFE IS SPOILED.
Dear folks,
PAMHO. AGTSP.
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* NEW WHISPERS:
(forwarded to pada by AD) Two wispers have been found on
tape T-38b. When Tamala says He will not take Srila Prabhupada to the
Hospital. Someone in the backround wispers "I can" or "I can't."
Before
Krsna Das Babaji comes in the room Srila Prabhupada starts to speak.
Tamala: "Shut up Srila Prabhupada" (very clearly). (and this is the
guy
whose diary the BBTI is going to print, and he is Narayana Maharaja's idea
of an acharya?)
* "POISON" IS NOT PADA'S IDEA:
Thanks for the e-mail re: Adri and your debate.
I hate to hear devotees cutting each other down. But our agreement
should be on a simple basis --- Prabhupada said it. Since SP said, from at
least five different angles of vision, that he was poisoned, and that
Ravana would kill him, etc. etc.--where is the question of doubting at
least the possibility of it? The people who interpret SP's teachings from
their own point of view are OK as far as I can see, but those who change or
ignore them are just self-motivated. Nalini
* lol, i'm glad to hear you keep a barf bag by the computer ***** dd
* A devotee just now got a death threat right after Satsvarupa visited his
area. We know all about it, SDG wrote his poison pen-ology in 1986 and it
worked, he got Sulochana killed and I was next on their hit list according
to the police....
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1) THE DEVOTEE CANCER EPIDEMIC (by pada)
Many times we are joking with sarcasm over these GBC issues because they
are so silly. For example, the GBC's and Gaudiya Matha's endorsing an Andy
Warhol Chelsea Girl as "Vishnupada," as person who is a pure as God.
Even
the karmis are laughing hysterically at this idiotic folly. Its just so
silly its unbelievable and most people laugh when they hear it.
Now we'd like to change mode a bit an bring up an issue which is very, very
serious and that is: that an increasing number of devotees seem to be
getting very life threatening illnesses such as: chronic asthma, chronic
fatigue syndrome, chronic incapacitating migraines, physical collapse,
colo-rectal cancer, throat cancer, brain tumor cancer, heart prolapse,
heart disease, weak or no digestion, and so on, while another sector are
simply ill or dying from drugs and overdoses and so on, and all at a
relatively younger age.
In contrast, there are a lot of old hippies living up here in Northern
California and they do not seem to have been afflicted by this edidemic?
After all, the basic modus of a devotee, eating healthy, not smoking, and
being pious, etc. should place one in the upper one percent of longevity
and health. So, what is the problem? We think a lot of it is due to stress,
which Srila Prabhupada says causes illness.
In Los Angeles for example, many devotees friendly to us are walking around
looking down at the sidewalk, and if they happen to see us, they will wave
from the other side of the street and then scurry off, afraid to be seen
with the pada editor for fear of reprisals from the temple goondas like
Ratnabusana, Sura, Nirantara etc. So, this reminds one of the concentration
camp movies, the people are looking down, they are repressed, they are
afraid to speak, or the guards will harass them etc. Very unhealthy
atmosphere, repression. This makes a negative modus in the body and one is
more likely to become ill.
Another problem is that there is a severe depression in a number of
devotees just from having their seva taken away. One lady told me she was
depressed over losing her seva to the deity and she thus had no will to
live, and so, two years later she was dying of cancer. I went to visit her
in the hospital in the San Francisco area two days before she left her
body. She was seemingly unconscious. Yet when I placed my hand on her head
and said "Goodbye, may Krishna bless you always," and was about to
leave,
she suddenly woke up and smiled, and said, "Oh Puranajana haribol,"
and we
communicated with our eyes that --I knew-- that --she knew-- that she was
going on to another plane because of the depression of losing her seva....
Very serious problem here which has so far gone unaddressed.
And lastly, there are going to be severe reactions for the poisoning of
Srila Prabhupada, his movement, his children, his books, his cows, his
farms, his varnasrama vision, and so on. And so this makes one more or less
duty bound to resist such aggressors. Even from the point of view of common
logic, one who speaks out will have better health simply because he is
releasing the toxic build up of anger etc. Otherwise, even the karmis say
this, repressed anger is unhealthy. Thus, Krishna tells Arjuna, fight,
otherwise what good will repression accomplish? This seems to have many
more angles than we previously considered.
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1) PANCHA TATTVA ANALYSIS BY PADA (who is minding the
store)?
Dear Janesvara prabhu,
PANCHA TATTVA: Being a GBC in ISKCON these days is a pretty tough row to
hoe, wouldn't you say? Left, right and center, there are people who want to
hang you for
things over which you have little or no control.
[PADA: Well, why isn't the GBC in control? Who is minding the store? And if
the GBC are not in control, or no one is, then isn't this the same anarchy
which evolved in the Gaudiya Matha under their false guru system? And is
this not criminal negligence, you are taking a salary as the company
manager, but you are not managing, rather you are bankrupting the company?
Criminal mismanagement.]
PANCHA TATTVA: Granted, the GBC have dropped the ball in the past, and they
should act like fire against child abusers, women abusers, and cow abusers.
How do you suggest they go about it?
[PADA: Well, they have not just dropped the ball (ignored the problems),
they have created the problems. The GBC has aggressively enforced
abominable policies for the senior devotees, women, brahmanas, pujaris,
cowherds, cows, and just plain old Satanic policies of pedophile worship
for the society's children. Yes, who can deny this, the GBC and their
Gaudiya Matha advisors even forced children to worship homosexual
pedophiles. In sum, the GBC has consciously deviated and agressed people,
not just fumbled by mistake. If I step on your toes one day, that is
fumbling, but if I drive an army tank over your toes every single day for
20 years, thats not fumbling, that is conscious criminal agressing.]
PANCHA TATTVA: Let me tell you something, prabhu. In almost every case of
child abuse, you had middle managers in ISKCON down where their noses could
have sniffed it out, middle managers like temple presidents, vice presidents,
temple
commanders, treasurers, board members, etc., who had the pulse of the
temple, and who failed to act responsibly.
[PADA: Good. The GBC kicked out those of us who were pointing these things
out and kept the corrupt ones behind so that --no one-- would mind the
store while the GBC and their agents looted the safe. Irresponsible. We
could not have stated this better.]
PANCHA TATTVA: You had devotees turning their backs, parents ignoring the
pleas of their children, temple presidents doing damage control, husbands
and wives abandoning their responsibilities to jump to another sex partner,
etc.
[PADA: So the whole system of social and family integrity broke down due to
GBC's living the high life while the citizens were left to fend for
themselves. Worse, when some parents brought these problems to the GBC's
attention they were harassed, suppressed, banned, threatened and
assassinated, as occured in the post 1936 Gaudiya Matha by the way. At the
very least, the GBC should have seen: the problems are not being handled by
the rank-and-file and took action.]
PANCHA TATTVA: Why do we only point at the GBC, ignoring the perpetrators
themselves and their immediate superiors?
[PADA: Their immediate supervisors are the GBC's clones. The GBC kicked out
10,000 devotees and put in their place their closely trusted henchmen, you
know, such as homosexual pedophiles like Satadhanya.]
PANCHA TATTVA: I find your complaints a little disingenuous, and I feel
pretty sure that Krishna will fulfill your desire to stay away from the Vaishnavas.
[PADA: People who promote homosexual pedophile guru lineages are not
devotees, indeed they are not even human beings.]
PANCHA TATTVA: Unfortunately, instead of rolling up your sleeves and
throwing in your lot with them to solve the problems, you'll sit outside,
daydreaming about varnashrama and complaining about the lack of it. It's
getting old, Janesvara, really old.
[PADA: We are not allowed to roll up our sleeves and help, we are
systematically banned, threatened, beaten and assassinated. That is the policy.]
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3) BHAVANANDA IS STILL IN CHARGE OF AUSTRALIA
Dear Pada pamho agtSP
In a recent letter to you, we used many superlatives to express our
appreciation for your style and delivery. We now discover, the word "witty"
was erroneously omitted. It would be remiss of us not to request this word
be added to the list. Thank you.
Devotees visiting Down-Under this year; Be warned! The Olympics are on in
Sydney. This means "bring your own (B.Y.O) plastic buckets, should you
have
a need for them." You have been warned- Sydney Temple has bought up every
single plastic bucket in town. Soon a brigade of wound-up-bhaktas will
emerge from that temple of promise. Posting themselves at street-lights and
sporting venues, they will flash buckets in every colour of the rainbow.
Pointing with one finger to new laminated badges that say "Food For Life"
the young bhaktas will drone the well-rehearsed mantra, "PLEASE HELP THE
STARVING KIDS." Of course we all know that iskcon has nicks-to-do with
any
starving kids. But hey! What the hell ! Anything goes in is-a-con. In the
end, no matter which country wins gold, iskcon wins the loose change.
Now the buckets have caused a major homosexual storage problem. That's
right. There are so many buckets, Bhavananda has been forced out of his
rooms and on tour around Australia. He talks with the young bhaktas,
discusses temple facilities, management, Deity worship etc,etc. Yes, he's
still very charismatic and the "men" are impressed. Furthermore, he
is
endorsed by middle-management, who were endorsed by the local gbc who were
initially endorsed by Bhavananda. Is your head spinning? There's more. From
the whispers around the traps, we believe "Bhavs" is on his way back.
At least in Australia if no where else. My source says "Its fair-dinkum,
and if you lot out there don't like it; stiff goannas." Is it the change
of
weather? Is it the coming Olympics? or is it the excitement of Aussies
finally breaking into management at gbc level. Who can really say? But
whatever it is, its bringing the skeletons out of the Aussie-iskcon-closet.
One such doped out skeleton can be heard yodelling
occasionally on Sydney's Bondi beach. "Bhajans" he calls it ("Bhajans
on
Bondi" VNN), and I am sure what he sings are bhajans, but his nose problem
makes it difficult to understand. You see; the yodeller used to be a
regional secretary (a good friend of Bhavs) but the stress of such a
high-powered position drove him to cocaine. Now his sinuses are as big as
Aladdin's cave, and whatever brains he has left, can only remain in his
head if he keeps on sniffing.
Hey! no worries! In Oz, all you gotta do is hang around, just pretend to be
spiritual and sooner or later you'll make the big-time. Even if your guru
"drives" taxi-drivers, your Regional Secretary's a zombie or your
TP's a
pornie, you just stick by your mates and you'll be right. That's what being
a true blue, dinky-di-Aussie is all about.
Namaskar & Dandavats
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4) IF YOU WORSHIP A RASCAL, THEN YOUR LIFE IS SPOILED.
Now, Canakya Pandita gives three things, formula, "If you want to be
fortunate, then do these three things." What is that? Murkha yatra na
pujyante: "Do not give any credit to the rascal." That is first
qualification. Don't be carried away by the rascal. Murkha yatra na
pujyante. If you worship a rascal, then your life is spoiled. You must
worship a really learned representative of God. That is very good.
(Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.31 San Francisco, July 16, 1975)
THESE RASCALS
So these rascals, Godbrothers, they are envious. (Room Conversation with
Reporter of The Star October 16, 1975, Johannesburg)
The whole situation has been spoiled by these so-called rascal gurus who
gives his own opinion. (Lecture: What is a Guru? London, August 22, 1973)
The rascal editors, they are doing havoc... (S.P.Conversation, "Rascal
Editors,"June 22, 1977, Vrndavana)
"Do not give any credit to the rascal". "Don't be carried away
by the
rascal" "If you worship a rascal, then your life is spoiled"
ALL GLORIES TO
SRILA PRABHUPADA! You must worship a really learned representative of God.
That is very good.
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SITES TO CHECK OUT:
*
http://www.prabhupada.cc
Prabhupada samkirtana site
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
*
http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P.
REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage)
* http://www.vedabase.com/ (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)
* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters:
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933
* POISON TRANSCRIPT
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
* http://www.winink.com/tkg/ (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc (The GBC)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com (e-mail)
* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html
* http://www.irg.zetnet.co.uk/ (IRG)
* http://www.come.to/irm (IRM)
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/ (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm) (Cyber
gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch
* http://www.vnn.org/ (VNN news)
* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S
TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy
In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)