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Hare Krishna dasi: women and cows a burden [Text 2786911 from COM]
1) PADA EDITORIAL: MASS CULT DEATHS IN AFRICA
2) RE: GBC list
3) GBC LIST CORRECTIONS/ ADDITIONS
4) Subject: Kangaroo Court: more GBC banning, harassment etc. and names of culprits
5) CROCODILE TEARS FOR ISKCON COWS
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Name corrections:
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Adikeshava: Angus Murphy
Bali Mardan: William Berke
Bhavananda: Charles Backus
Guru Prasad Swami: William Steve Henricks
Panchadravida Swami: Theodore Richard Harris
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Hare Krishna dasi: women and cows a burden [Text 2786911 from COM]
We are waiting to hear some kind of response on this from the GBC Executive
Committee.
It is interesting to note that when the Vrndavana women-beating incident
took place, the GBC chairman responded within a couple days with some
assessment and a directive.
These cows were sold to slaughter back in June during the Panihatti
Festival, and still we have heard no official comment from the GBC
Executive Committee, five months later.
If you think being a woman puts you in an un-protected position in ISKCON
-- try being a cow. Then why should anyone protect you? -- you aren't even
collecting money to build temples. You are simply a burden on ISKCON. your
servant, Hare Krsna dasi
[PADA: Now why do we get the impression that she is sounding a lot like
pada nowadays? Damn straight. You tell em' girl!]
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1) PADA EDITORIAL: MASS CULT DEATHS IN AFRICA
A massive "cult suicide" in Africa turned out to be really --a mass
murder.
People were herded into a large meeting hall and the windows and doors were
nailed shut, then the place was set on fire. Judging by the fact that
bodies that were piled up like canned sardines at the doors, it means that
the people were trying to escape. Another pile of bodies was found in the
basement, and these folks had been hanged, strangled and/or hacked to
death. "Jesus loves me yes he do" ...hack hack, whack whack. Oh nice!
This is why Srila Prabhupada says that relgion without philosophy is
fanaticism.
And what caused all this fanatical reaction? Well, it seems that some
dissidents were just about to blow the whistle on the cult's leaders, who
had major problems such as (mis) predicting the end of the world several
times etc. You may remember that the GBC's guru Hurry-crash had also
predicted that WW III was going to start, on three dates. When it did not
start, he just moved the date up just like this cult. So what is the
difference between this Africa cult and folks like Harikesha? Well, we
could say that Hurry-crash's cult has been vastly more dangerous and
obnoxious because he misrepresented Krishna and the Vedas directly, and he
misrepresented a worldwide institution. And he was backed by the GBC of
that institution, even after he predicted that subterranean demons would
come up from underneath the earth unless ISKCON could stop oil drilling,
which was agitating these demons and so on ad infinitum.
Also of interest is that when there are dissidents, the best plan of
response by mad wacko cult leaders is always the same: ban, beat and kill
them. This is what Jim Jones did as well, ban, beat, kill --the dissenters.
This is what Sridhara's 1936 "Vasudeva is the acharya" cult did as
well,
and --hey is there a pattern here? Oh yuumy pie!
This mass murder melt-down also did not occur in one day, as it may seem.
There were probably many years of doubts, exposes, and an assortment of
various haggling, bickering, dissidents being mistreated, and so on and so
forth, and that was creating a lot of behind the scenes pressure --building
up-- against the bogus leaders. Perhaps the dissidents were planning on
doing a legal crack-down on the leaders? So, the leaders got desperate,
hmmm, just like the GBC, "Oh the poison issue is dead, see, everyone is
happy with our cover-up now and we have finally kicked out the last of the
dissenters." Desperation.
This is a point that a lot of devotees seem to miss. For example, the mass
molestation and banning etc. in ISKCON. It occured because of mass, deeply
entrenched, maya. This was not something that just sprouted up all of a
sudden and was stamped out as soon as it was noticed. No, it evolved
gradually, slowly, over time, in a conspracy of silence, and indeed it
could not have evolved without a lot of complicity and acquiescing. Then
the GBC saw that their exploitation program could get away with all kinds
of things. And then the problems spread all the more, were covered-up for
all the more, and then, persistent dissenters were angrily if not violently
banned, beat and murdered all the more, and this had been a policy for
years together. Isn't this still the basic GBC "kick em'" policy --which
is
enforced even today? That is how the evils spread as they did: "bad men
flourish when good men remain silent." Locked in nescience.
And this is sort of related to our wife beater GBC toadie Mahamantra dasa.
Folks knew he was a violent beater, but they failed to speak up. "Prabhu!
He's doing big service. He's a big collector of funds for the guru regime.
He's a Satsvarupa guru-pi! So we cannot criticize prabhu"! Ummm hmmmm!
Cult
mentality. And now it seems evident that he was giving large sums of money
to the GBC regime, so are they going to pay some of it back to his poor
wife? Or are we going to see even more mad cult behaviors --i.e. not
helping this lady in distress? Is this a refined version of the same
underlying mentality as the hack hack, whack whack crew, just more subtle
but still simply --the same basic modus of exploitation?
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2) RE: GBC list
Puranjan prabhu,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Please accept my obeisances.
Thank you for this list. From personal experience, I can add more
descriptive details to several of the individuals you listed (i.e. Svavasa,
Kavicandra, Romapada...). Is this what you would like, or are you looking
for strait forward 'name, address' type of information? Thanks, I'll wait
for your response...
[PADA: Yes, you can add descriptive details of your experiences, or if you
know of anything like the recent report that Pancadrivida was watching soap
operas, all the way to aiding or covering up for molesters, sexual
impropriety, criminal actions, financial misdeeds, etc. We'd like the whole
pooper scooper on the "pure and good as God" crew and their henchmen.
Please try to make brief summaries though.]
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3) GBC LIST CORRECTIONS/ ADDITIONS
1) Adi Keshava das (USA)
Legal name: unknown
Served: 1978-1983
(Has resigned)
Angus Murphy
7) Bali Mardan das
Legal name: unknown
Served: 1977-1978
(Has resigned)
William Berke, New York City, original BBT Trustee, 1972
19) Bhavananda das
Legal name: Charles Bacis (Backus?)
180 Falcon St.
Cammeray NSW
2062 Australia
Served: 1978-1986
Charles Backus
69) Shivarama Swami
Legal name: Tom Klimek (?)
Served: 1987-1999
[Currently the guru for Poland?]
Tom Klimek is Srirama's legal name
Addition:
Karandhar dasa (Kelly G. Smith, original BBT Trustee, 1972)
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Panchadravida Swami
Theodore Richard Harris
Left ISKCON not because of what he saw wrong with the GBC but because
he
never made it to the inner circle and his zone was crumbling after 10 years
of his mismanagement. Although considered a clown by everyone he wanted the
same respect as the original eleven. Moved across the river to Navadwip in
1987 just in time for taking his picture with Sridhara Maharaja before he
left this world, and attempt to crawl his way to the top of that group so
that he could live comfortably at the expense of others. He was denounced
by the community in San Jose for watching soap operas all morning and
approaching a local bhaktin to marry her. Reports indicate that he was also
balling someone in Guadalajara. At the end he didn't give up his sannyasi
dress as it is easier to get a plate of prasadam and a little respect with it.
He has acknowledged that before joining ISKCON he stabbed a guy in the back
in Spain. The guy died as a result. Hangs out in the Matha in California
and Mexico. No one in the Matha knows what to do with the guy.
Guru Prasad Swami
William Steve Henricks
Incurred in felonies in Mexico while proclaiming to be a guru and a
succesor of Srila Prabhupada. After an investigation the GBC had to
acknowledge his crimes and in 1999 suspended him from Mexico for 6 months
(an order that he violated) and forced to pay a 5,000.00 fine to ISKCON
Mexico (a fraction of what the temple had to pay for his nonsense).
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4) Subject: Kangaroo Court
Date: Friday, March 24, 2000 5:06 PM
Dear Pada pamho agtSP
What a sad thing it is when a son of Srila Prabhupada is thrown out of his
Father's home. Especially one who was given first and second initiation
directly from His Divine Grace (Vrindavan and Mayapur respectively). Is
this not a travesty of justice? And when you consider; he never once shamed
or blasphemed his "Ever well wisher". Never once in twenty-five years
did
he ask remuneration for services rendered. Never once was he involved in
scandal or deviation from the guidelines set by Srila Prabhupada.
[PADA: Well, that means you are disqualified, since folks like homosexual
pedophiles such as Bhavananda are the desired treasured persons wanted in
the GBC circle...]
An unassuming, non-confrontational, easy-going devotee whose pro-Prabhupada
beliefs (in an iskcon disrespectful to the democratic laws of the land)
have caused his exile. Now he finds himself "Banned from all iskcon
establishments in Australia." And the banning vote was carried out by a
majority, who had never even met Srila Prabhupada personally. And, whose
own spoor is littered with criminal element. A brief synopsis of which
shall be revealed later in this article.
Mandapa das Prabhu is very well known. He is often seen in Loi Bazaar
wheeling and dealing with the local "kapra wallas," a ritual performed
for
many years as part of an import business he runs. His initial introduction
to the (suppressed) Final Order (FO), was an article in the "Vedic Village
Review '89." In 1996, the "Iskcon Journal" decided to come clean;
everyone
was informed about the FO.
In October '97 the FO was being distributed in temples and on the streets.
It was then that Mandapa Prabhu received a copy from Adridharan das (TP
Kolkutta). The famous Bangalore meeting followed in '98. Many Indian
(bodied) TP's attended. At this meeting, there was a consensus which saw
the July 9th letter and the May 28th tape as being directly linked. And the
message that Srila Prabhupada had in fact ordered
"officiating acaryas" was crystal clear.
[PADA: And according to the Gaudiya Matha and the GBC it is clear that
Srila Prabhupada had "always wanted" homosexuals to be worshipped
as
Krishna's successors?]
On his return to base (Sydney), he did not conceal the fact of his
attendance at that meeting. Nor did he conceal his active role as
Chairperson. Sometime after his return, he was summoned to Ramai swami's
(gbc) office and advised, " You are entitled to your own personal feelings,
EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE WRONG." He was further advised not to discuss the
issue "Inside iskcon temples." This warning was delivered in early
'99.
However, in keeping with his role as a member of IRG (IRM). Mandapa Prabhu
attended a meeting in LA and another in Vrindavan. After his return from
the La meeting, devotees began calling him on the phone, asking what's
really going on. (In Australia, news of "foreign iskcon" is totally
controlled. There is no place within iskcon (anywhere
else in the world) where the "mushroom syndrome" is so prevalent).
Among
the callers were the usual low-life-sleuths used by iskcon management to
set up prey.
Anyway, none of the callers were dwellers "inside iskcon temples"
as such,
Mandapa Prabhu felt no reason not to divulge the information asked for. He
felt this was his civil liberty in a democratic land. After all; he was in
his own residence, using his own phone and speaking his own mind.
In July ' 99, Ramai swami called Mandapa Prabhu back into his office."
We
hear you're propagating the "ritvik" theory," he said, "We
are about to
have the A.G.M (Annual General Meeting. Or a gathering of the "Argy-bargy
Gimcrack Maladministrators") and you (Mandapa das) are on the agenda. Now
are you going to toe the line?" (meaning; "Support the Regime. Or
else!!")
For half an hour the discussion continued. "Please try to understand,"
pleaded Mandapa Prabhu, " I cannot abandon my beliefs. You may do as you
wish" (Se bhakta danya, ye na chara prabhura charan).
After the A.G.M, Deva Amrta swami (of "Holy Cow Swami" fame) summoned
Mandapa Prabhu to his room. "Have to give you this message from the A.G.M:-
"You are banned from all Australian iskcon facilities, until you
demonstrate a change of heart (in other words "kiss butt"). The main
reason
for your expulsion," he added, "is that you are a friend of Adridharan
das." No letters or telephone calls or any other official discussions
were entered into.
And that's how iskcon gets rid of twenty-five years of somebody's life.
Also involved in this unsavory saga, is Jagat Priya dd (Mandapa Prabhu's
good wife) who joined the movement in 76. This lady is a renowned cook and
pujari. Her standards of seva are impeachable. There is not a vegetarian
restaurant on this planet that would not beg her to stay. Yet, when banning
Mandapa Prabhu, the all powerful Australian mismanagement cast her into
exile as well. Between Mandapa Prabhu and his wife, forty-nine years of
service were given without one day's wages paid/ received. What a bunch
of heartless buffoons.
[PADA: They are very strict about defending the pedophile lineage.]
Following is a record of Mandapa Prabhu's years of seva.
Manager of Spiritual Sky...' 75 to ''77...Co TP Auckland Temple NZ ...77 to
79...Vice President Colo River NSW ...79 to 86...Treasurer Bhaktivedanta
Institute (Mombay) 86 to 87 ...Temple President (Mombay) ...87 to 89
...Manager BBT Australia ...92 to 98..All this seva was carried out while
maintaining his own private business. Following is a brief history of those
Managers who passed the "exile " vote.
RAMAI SWAMI (co-gbc Australia)- Frequent
movie-goer. Spends thousands of
Srila Prabhupada's money on his penchant for rock and roll musical
instruments. Cars. Busses and vans to carry the equipment from town to town
are purchased using gurukula tax ex scams. Bhaktas (his "boys" ) can
be
seen running along the street with buckets and FFL badges collecting money
from people to support the maharaja's lifestyle. A recent equipment
purchase (at Toowoombah) cost fourteen thousand dollars. This adds to a
collection that amounts to thousands upon thousands of dollars.
DEVA AMRTA SWAMI (co-gbc New Zealand) Excessively
confrontational.
Once said that women were toilets. Can be seen on video in "Holy cow swami."
An expose on Kirtananda. Deva Amrta swami can be seen wearing a Franciscan
monk's habit. A five day growth covers his face and he speaks his part as
Kirtananda's right hand man. A complete deviant from Srila Prabhupada's
instruction. He now rules with the iskcon mob.
ANIRUDDHA DAS (tp Melbourne) This
enigmatic suction pump, has both hands in
the till. Even his own TP club members will agree. A wage taking TP, he has
caused the collapse of the Victorian gurukula that was operational when he
took over. The farm under his management has also taken a nose dive and
"Prabhupada House" at Melbourne Temple has never looked worse. Adelaide
Temple which is also a Melbourne responsibility, has been on the brink of
disaster so many times, the bhaktas there think they're on a
roller-coaster. A total "aham" freak, Aniruddha das would love to
have his
murti on the alter instead of Sri Vallabha ji.
TIRTHA RAJ DAS (tp Brisbane and Dpt
gbc. He gets paid a stipend)
A liar and a cheat. Has a reputation for seeing all temple property as his own.
A recent venture into entrepreneurism cost the temple sixty-five thousand
dollars from funds siphoned off the Indian congregation. He is the
architect of the tax exemption and money laundering scams in Australia.
Rumors floating around iskcon claim that he was recently seen by a senior
devotee "doing pornography" with his computer ( this is now a confirmed
fact).
ATMARAMA DAS (tp Sydney) He fell down with
a "karmi" and was cast out from
iskcon management and into the wilderness for three years. Had the gbc not
been short of managers at the time, he would still be out there to this
very day. And no one knows this better than he. How can this TP, who
suffered for so long, do the same to someone else? Is it because he is the
epitome of power mongering and would cut down any opposition to remain
"anusasitaram" the controller ? Wasn't it him who once said, "If
you're not
IT you're SH..?"
ADI PURUSA DAS (tp Canberra) Was TP of
Adelaide. His bad management and
public relations nearly lost the Adelaide temple for keeps. Has a very
dodgy sadhana. Devotees have complained of going for mangal arotika and
finding the lights off and our champion TP fast asleep. He has a reputation
for having long conversations while still doing his gayatri. Also a
participator in the tax scam, the saying, "Food for Life for me and my
wife," was coined after a visit to this TP's home. The amount of
four-wheel-drives this guy has owned and sold, would give a car-salesman
lockjaw.
PRABHA VISNU SWAMI ( "guru"
and co-gbc Australia) A real estate and
property owner. His palace is the new one near Sri Sri Krsna Balaram Mandir
Vrndavan. There are also rumors of real estate in Britain and private bank
accounts. A jet-setter with a grand illusion regards his managing ability,
he loses his voice when confronted by the "Aussie" cartels. Spends
a lot of
time and money on university fees. And he is heavily supported by the
"collector disciple" business.
In closing, we would like to point out that the more we look the more we
see; those who are Prabhupadanugas are cast out. While those who are cheats
and liars and are bringing so much ill repute to Vaisnavism, rule the
roost. Namaskar & dandavats
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5) CROCODILE TEARS FOR ISKCON COWS
[Text 2786351 from COM]
In the case of Drumilla however he has
been 100 percent shown to be guilty
of sending innocent animals to slaughter. Animals which were protected and
loved by the devotees. He came only for a short period ot Murari so he had
no knowledge of these cows and definitely had no attachment for them. It
would have been better had he gone to the slaughter house and let these
animals stay and serve Krishna with their lives. He deserves whatever
punishment he gets. This was not some ommission or mistake, it was a
blatant disregard for the life of these cows. He is
a low class sob and I
hope he pays dearly and continues to pay for one thousand lifetimes.
I guess yall get the point. Anyone who has ever loved and felt the love of
our mother and father should know exactly how we all feel towards this so
called person.
YS Dvibhuja Das
[PADA: So why does the GBC select such people as their leaders?]
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SITES TO CHECK OUT:
* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Oldham, UK (PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk)
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111)
* NYC, 93 St. Mark's Place, 2nd Floor, 10009-5141 (212-979-0381 & 1063)
* London, 65 Bournehall Ave., Bushey, Herts. WD2 3BB. U.K. (0181-387-3173)
* Calcutta, India – 3C Albert Road., 700 017 (033- 2473757 or 2476075)
*
http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc
Prabhupada samkirtana site
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
*
http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P.
REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage)
* http://www.vedabase.com/ (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)
* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters:
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933
* POISON TRANSCRIPT
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
* http://www.winink.com/tkg/ (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com (e-mail)
* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html
* http://www.irg.zetnet.co.uk/ (IRG)
* http://www.come.to/irm (IRM)
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/ (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm) (Cyber
gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch
* http://www.vnn.org/ (VNN news)
* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S
TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy
In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)