Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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* Adridharana says that his GBC case is making progress, that the judge is going to pursue the GBC's perjury element of the case. Good progress.

However, we are still awaiting Adri's update response as to why his "poison expert" on CHAKRA hears the word "poison" as: "boys," then "swelling," and then "weasels"? Why do people think this poison issue is some kind of crack pot joke like this? It is not. Nor has Adri explained why his "expert" jackbooted himself upon the second hair sample analysis and effectively had it halted? Isn't this foul play part 4,000,390,056? Why are we on this team --at all?

This does not seem like a very bona fide authority for Adri or anyone else, to recommend to the world as authorities on the poison issue? Adri's guy cannot hear and/or speak English, for starters? And how did all that arsenic get there? Of course neither Adri or his CHAKRA-philes have presented a good explanation for any of this all along? Hint: there is none. So let us complete the full reform here, and for starters not make a hee-haw joke session, if not forensics jackbooter issue, out of this poison issue as has been done by the CHAKRA experts.

This is not something to swagger about with a cavalier mood and frankly this is rather shocking that such a mood is even being expressed by anyone on this issue. Your guru says he was poisoned and you are forwarding some crack pot joker who cannot even speak English, and who jackboots his way into halting the forensics work, as your method of explanation? And he also supports the pedo-pooja regime? This is your authority? What is wrong with you people?

This is most disgusting and what to speak of downright irreverant. Some jackass is going to explain that what looks very much like a person on par with Jesus' assassination is due to: boys, swelling and weasels? And he supports pedo-pooja lineages to boot? What is wrong with you people? And people say that pada has no respect? Well we are not joking about: boys, swelling and weasels when the topic is really the poisoning of the pure devotee? Nor are we asking the pedo-pooja-ites to explain this? What is wrong with you people? The weasels are going down is your final official explanation? Even pada is totally disgusted, and that is a pretty hard thing to do by all accounts.

* Also, we have an eye-witness who says that they heard a CHAKRA contributor lecture that in his last days Srila Prabhupada was very demanding, and so we just could not wait for it to end (see this in article below: Bhavs is back). Are these CHAKRA folks the ones we want to have on our team or listed as our authorities on various topics?

* A Prabhupadanuga devotee was stopped from giving class in Vrindavana, India by Gopal Krishna swami. This has merely uspet more people and thus more are siding against the GBC.

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10) Bhaktibhusana Maharaj (German)
aka Suchandra das
Legal name: Unknown, Served: 1987-1995
bogus German devotee initiated into Sannyas and guru-ship by Harikesha.
Suchandra aka Bhaktibhusana has thrown devotees out of the temple because
they where listening to the Hare Krishna Mantra sung by Hansadutta.

33) Hari Kesha Swami: Robert Campagnola (USA)
Legal name: Robert Campagnola (confirmed name)
Villa Trassotine
Parc de Cavalaire
Ave du Signal
F-83240 Cavalaire Sur Mar, France
Phone: 04946-46684
Served: 1977-1996
[US citizen: married to his female Sweeden disciple Kamalasundari dasi and
now living in France.

50) Naresvara: Norman D'Costa
Legal name: Norman D'Costa
Served: 1988
Bogus BBTI clone, who along with Hari Sauri aka Prabhupad Kripa, destroyed
Hansaduttas printing setup in Singapore and ripped off all the Singapore
printed books.

Hope this letter find you well and in bliss Your eternal servant

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AGTSP pamho

1) Here are some of the former names:

Sivarama Swami (correction to your listing)
Legal name: Peter Letai
Ex-GBC Hungary, UK and N. Ireland
Owns property in Vrndavan. Holds gold AMEX card

Akhandadhi Das
Legal name: Martin Fleming
TP, Bhaktivedanta Manor for most of 1980s/90s.
Was GBC for a while
Well-known for siphoning funds to pay off his mortgage.
Currently living in Wales (UK).

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76-06-15. Letter: Riddha
Bhakta Mike--Adi Purusa dasa

74-11-01.Letter: Dayananda
Dennis Winiker--Dhanurdhara dasa.

73-02-11. Letter: Nityananda
The initiation that you have recommended are approved by me. Victor
Mistretta is now to be called Vrikodara and **Darrel Martin is now Dvibhuja.**

Letter to: **Lokanatha (Larry Batcheldor)**,

760831IN.DEL Lectures
Adira: (says four rules in Hindi)
Prabhupada: Abhayasraya.
Pradyumna: Bhakta Allen? Atmananda? Atma-tattva dasa.
Prabhupada: (Hindi) Kya niyama hai?
Allen: No meat-eating, no intoxication, no illicit sex, no gambling.
Prabhupada: (Hindi) Atmananda dasa.
Pradyumna: Atma-tattva dasa.
Prabhupada: **Atma-tattva dasa.**

74-04-16.Letter: Gopijanavallabha
Wayne Boyd--Vipramukhya dasa

74-07-26.Letter: Adi-kesava:
Andrew Lerra--Agrani (the foremost)

74-09-15.Letter: Resolution
William Berke (Bali Mardan das Adhikari)

69-02-07.Letter: Tirtha Maharaja
**Bhurijana das Brahmacari (Wayne Connel)**

71-12-08. Locanananda
Upon your recommendation, I am very glad to accept our devotee,** George**,
as my duly initiated disciple. I shall be sending his beads, duly chanted,
under separate post. I have given him the new spiritual name: GURUGAURANGA
DAS.

67-01-25. Letter: Brahmananda
Srimati Malati Devi (Mrs Melody)

77-01-05.Letter: Nandikesvara
N.B. Gururaj's name is Guru-prasada dasa
ACBS.jda

73-02-11.Letter: Kirtanananda
Please accept my blessings. I am in due receit of your letter and I approve
of the initiations of Bill Allan who is now to be called Balaji das, Paul
Terry who is now to be called Parambrahma das, **Richard Selvin who is now
Radhanatha das**

73-09-27.Letter: Jagadisa
Sivarama (Peter Letai)

71-04-27.Letter: Vaidyanatha (Bob Sandel)

75-08-24.Letter: Certification (for Jayapataka)
In the matter of an application for a certificate of naturalization under
the Citizenship Act, 1955, made by my disciple Jayapataka Swami. Gordon
John Erdman

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2) Choosing a guru

From: "Madhusudani Radha (dd) JPS (Mill Valley, CA - USA)"
Subject: On choosing a guru
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 08:34 -0800

* 5. I am against the system of appointing many many diksha gurus without
proper scrutiny of their qualifications.
Q. Who said there is a system of appointing with out proper scrutiny of
their qualifications. If so there would be thousands and not just some
tens, of initiating gurus in our society.
* Just a clarification: No one is appointed to be guru in ISKCON these days.

[PADA: So why are the people who blatantly lied that they were "appointed
as gurus," and who militantly orchestrated homosexual pooja, and thus
subsequent mass molestations, ad infinitum, still gurus "these days"?]

* The GBC only issues "non objection" statements.

[PADA: Which is given after holding --a vote? So now you are STILL voting
for gurus, which Srila Prabhupada says is bogus, rubber stamp and so on? Oh
and don't forget, the only people allowed to vote are --the founders of the
homosexual pooja, the reinstators of the homosexual pooja, those voted in
at pedophile guru recoronations, et al.?]

* Typically prospective disciples approach someone who inspires them in
spiritual life.

[PADA: No, there are still "local" (zonal?) gurus, and if you do not accept
the local "zonal" guru you can be shunned, banned, or beaten.]

* If that person is not already an initiating spiritual master in ISKCON,
the GBC votes to see if anyone (it may be 3 members who are requeired) has
any objections.

[PADA: This is cool? We are not voting, we are just, well, voting.]

* If not, the person can initiate. However, it is very important to note
that this does not mean that the GBC takes responsibility for what level
this person is at.

[PADA: Yes, we have no objection if you buy our used car. "No objection"
means "as is." But if the steering falls apart at 75 mph, and your family
dies, don't tell us! No returns or refunds. Here is your guru who is like
"Jesus," ooops, I mean here is the molester of the month! Of course, if you
do not accept our "Jesus" we have some guys with aluminum baseball bats who
can help you make the choice.]

* It is still up to the disciples to carefully study their prospective guru
and for the guru to similarly study the prospective disciple.

[PADA: Yep, here is our GBC used car. We are selling it to you as a little
old ladies low-miler, but really it is a taxi with 5 million miles on it.]

* We pray to Krsna to send us a guru and if we're sincere, He will do so.

[PADA: Yep, if you are sincere Krishna will give your used car brakes even
where there are none and make your 1986 Hyundai into a 2000 Cadillac. Fer
sure. And if He doesn't, you will maybe die. Too bad.]

Ys,
Madhusudani dasi

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[PADA: OK agreed, let us get off the plane of personal behavior and address your siddhanta, and your party's siddhanta for a moment instead. After all, GBC clones have said that I am a crack addict and so on. Lets address Srila Prabhupada's siddhanta.

(1) Srila Prabhupada does not ascribe to the current GBC's notion, and indeed GBC's enforced policy, that: (a) homosexual pedophile "gurus," (b) their founder fathers, appointment liars, cover-ups and reinstator "gurus," or (c) those voted in at pedophile "guru" recoronations, are or were acharyas. Do you?

(2) Or for example, Satvarupa said that Kirtananda is like Jesus when he was having sex with boys. Do you agree that SDG is a guru now and that Kirtanananda was a guru who gave diksha, like Srila Prabhupada and Jesus are diksha (sin absorbing) gurus, as the GBC's documents state?

(3) Hridayananda says in his Bhagavatam that two homosexual pedophiles are acharyas, i.e. folks like Jesus. Do you agree or do you forbid this man's books and his preaching colleagues from speaking?

(4) According to numerous reports, your "gurus" in Australia are all in these three above-mentioned categories. For example, Prabhu vishnu swami was "voted in as guru" by the founders, militant enforcers, and even recoronators of homosexual pedophile guru worship. He also hangs around with Gopal Krishna, who is also a "guru" because he too was "voted in as guru" by the homosexual pedophile gurus directly, and so on and so forth. Bhavananda is welcomed there, while the Prabhupadanugas are not. Are these facts or fiction?

(5) Are you saying what the GBC says, that Krishna's successor acharyas, who are worshipped like Jesus in ISKCON, can or must be voted in by a homosexual pedophile lineage? And do you agree with this pedo-lineage posing as Krishna's successors, which is the current so-called GBC's policy and can be proven from their own reports and documents?]

TD: Regarding Bhavananda being welcomed, that is an individual matter between those devotees and Bhavananda.

[PADA: We are talking about the GBC policy of the leaders in Australia, of which you are supposedly one.

(6) This policy seems to be: that homosexual pedophiles, who posed as Krishna's successor gurus with the GBC's militant approval and rubber stamp, and who orchestrated mass molestation of children, and who also orchestrated the banning, beating and killing of dissidents by fanatical preaching (and so on), are welcomed in the temples? Correct or not?

(7) Whereas, the people who want to worship Srila Prabhupada are basically discouraged if not banned? Correct or not?

(8) For example, Prabhu vishnu just harrassed a devotee in India and got him kicked out of the temple there with his pal Gopal Krishna, and meanwhile both of them embrace Bhavananada's presence in the temples, i.e. a person who orchestrated homosexual pedophile nests in the schools, if not the starving, beating and molestation of children and so on? So the policy is that the homosexual pedophile's lineage members are protected and the Prabhupadanugas are driven out, the policy all along since 1977? Do you agree with and/or support this policy?

(9) And have you publicly dissassociated yourself from these policies? And why does it seem that you only take notice of these issues when you are addressed personally instead of addressing the issues as they effect the society, and its children etc., over the past 23 years?]

TD: If that is their choice then so be it, and if they are unable to welcome so called Prabhupada followers then that is also their choice.

[PADA: But you will all get the karma of supporting people who make evil choices?]

TD: After all we are individuals and cannot be dictated to as to whom we keep company with or count amongst our associates. You may not agree with him and his past activities and most people would feel the same. Nevertheless they have their rights to feel anyway they want towards anyone so why should you be telling them what to do.

[PADA: I am not telling anyone what to do or not to do. All we are saying is that Bhavananda is one of the prime responsible parties who orchestrating the mass molestation of children in our society. (9) If people "feel" like they want to lick his boots, and beat up on the Prabhupadanugas, then that means they have "feelings" of sympathy for the homosexual pedophile guru lineage, thats all we are saying. Is the above not correct?

(10) And isn't that is why the molestations went on in the first place? A person who orchestrated mass molestation, and the worship of molesters as good as God, is welcomed by your party? That is how it looks? And the persons voted in as guru by these molesters, such as Gopal Krishna, are still your idea of a guru? That is how it looks?]

TD: Regarding vandalism towards Ramai Swami's vehicle, it is not certain who did the damage. I do not know why it is said it was an ex-gurkula student that did this, as this does not reflect properly on many nice kids that went to the gurukula. By and large there was very little abuse in Australia, and the persons who did abuse children have gone into hiding for fear of prosecution which they will face. Some have been prosecuted and been punished with jail sentences, but it is a fact some are still at large.

[PADA: Well, Bhavananda was never prosecuted for bringing all of his homosexual pedophile pals in to operate the schools, so far as we know? He is welcomed by your party? Rather than hiding, it is said he is given facility there?]

TD: We defintely do not condone child abuse and were one of the first to mandate child protection teams in all our centres to stamp out abuse of children. Whatever has gone on in the past is regretable and must be dealt with as it will as the evidences come to light.

[PADA: Well, the evidence seems to be that Bhavananada is a homosexual pedophile. And he and his cohorts like JPS kicked out the other teachers like Yasodananadana and installed molesters and perverts, and your party has never prosecuted them for these grevious actitivities?]

TD: I am only repeating these things so you may get another perspective than from your "eye-witness".

[PADA: OK, we are trying. That is why we'd like to hear your replies to these points, thanks. Finally, as these issues becomes more public, can we cite you as a person who is supporting or acquiescing with these polcies? YS pd]

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4) BHAVS IS BACK

Dear Puranjana Prabhu pamho agtSP A very reliable eye-witness phoned to say that Bhavananda is now giving Bhagavad Gita classes at North Sydney temple. There is no way he can do this without the approval of Atmaram das (TP), Ramai swami (co-gbc) and Prabhavisnu swami (co-gbc). And knowing P.V swami, I would say without hesitation, he has conferred with other members of the gbc, before giving permission. This means that "Bhavs" is back.

Prabhu, there's something else that really bothers me. When Bhavananda was exposed, he made a statement in the presence of a few Australian devotees (myself included), "They'll get Tamal one day." I had no idea what he meant, and still don't.

For the GBC update:- Hari Sauri (Prabhupada Krpa) was gbc for Australia until his falldown (late ' 80's). He gave a class in Melbourne once ("Captains of stone ships" was what I titled my taping, but I've lost it), He amazed me when he admitted Srila Prabhupada was far too demanding in his final days. He said that they had had enough and just wished the whole experience would come to an end. The lecture was a S.B morning class given in ' 85/86, and the words used were much stronger than what I've used. A copy of the lecture may still exist in the Melbourne archives. If it does exist, it shouldn't be hard to locate, he only came to Melbourne once a year. But who can get in, dig it up and expose it? is the million dollar question.
Danadavats & pranams

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Oldham, UK (PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk)
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111)

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://www.irg.zetnet.co.uk/  (IRG)
* http://www.come.to/irm (IRM)
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)

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