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Historicity
Pretty amazing thing has been occuring here with the Hare Krishna religion.
Lets see, we have had a sort of 2000 years of Christian history compressed into
23?
(1) Falsely "appointed" pure devotee popes or gurus;
(2) Many of these false pure devotees being exposed in illicit affairs and God
only knows what else;
(3) The false pure devotees using violent tactics to repress dissidents;
(4) Members of the Church "protesting" and starting various reform
counter-points. And here is where we have a unique twist in our history:
(5) It turns out that the original founder was de facto crucified by poison,
but
(6) The false appointees are the prime suspects? All this has come about in
23 years?
Normally, one can live for a hundred years and only see a few dissidents burned at the stake, a few witches drowned in the pond, and a few people placed in the stocks for a week and then stoned. If you are really lucky you might even come accross a one page pamphlet written by an actual dissident, but you will be burned at the stake if you ever tell anyone you read it. That we were able to see all of this "turned on its head" in a mere 23 years is nothing short of a divine miracle. That we have survived to see it is yet another miracle. Thank you Lord! Yes, there is a Krishna dudes and dudettes. This may come as an unfortunate surprise to our distinguished GBC colleages....
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1) process of sannyasa
Haribol Prabhu:
Dandavats. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
I would like to recommend that the process of making new sannyasis be immediately stopped as far as ISKCON is concerned. In fact, among existing sannyasis, no one should be recognized as such unless he has been a dutiful householder and conscientious provider for his family, and who has taken vanaprastha, after making proper provisions for his wife and children when he finally takes sannyasa. Unless one is a naistika brahmacary, that process is part of his training. At that time they should also be properly introduced into the asrama one step at a time--from Kuticuka to Paramahamsa.
In addition, no one should be considered for that asrama until he attains the same age at which Srila Prabhupada took sannyasa. I believe that was in his very late 50 or mid 60s. No misogynists, no paedophiles, no homosexuals and other abusers of women and children. Let them practice krsna-conscious brahmacarya, (thus giving up their lust for little boys and their hatred for women). That's our principle. Sannyasa means spiritual leadership and guidance for the whole world, not becoming the pope. ISKCON's corrupt, greedy, conniving, now fallen and soon to be fallen GBC/Guru/Sannyasi mis-leaders have proved themselves unfit. Let them resign, don simple white robes, seek out the foot dust of those they have injured in so many ways and dedicate themselves to eating the most simple fare, begging and doing kirtana. That would be marevellous for them and for the entire planet. But before that happens, they most clearly disclose the location of all the money they have misappropriated and any private property, and return all of it. They must also instruct their blind followers as to their past and present lack of proper qualifications, and must point them completely towards Srila Prabhupada's shelter. That would be a start in the right direction. Then they must voluntarily submit to the legal authorities.
Unless they do this, the Bhavs of this world, their supporters, promoters and blind followers will soon feel the rod of chastisement dealt out in unlimited measure by the agents of Durgadevi. Hare Krsna, Halayudha dasa
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3) 1976.2
...This came to a head at the March, 1976 Mayapura meetings. The temple presidents held their own meeting separate from the "Governing Body Commission" (GBC) members and they determined that Tamal's program was going to eventually destroy Srila Prabhupada's temples. Srila Prabhupada agreed with the temple presidents and he declared that Tamal should be sent to China to preach.
Tamal reacted by angrily opposing Srila Prabhupada's plan to go to China (as was also reported in a book by Hari Sauri). He was reputed to have said that the "Radha Damodar" bus program was "his" program and that it could not be taken away by Srila Prabhupada. Tamal was reported to have expressed a lot of anger towards Srila Prabhupada at this time. In other words, it looked to some of us that Srila Prabhupada had "caught" Tamal in a plan to subvert the movement away from his control by various tricks, and Tamal was angry because he had been caught. Of course other "big leaders" and GBC men had also argued with Srila Prabhupada as well, yet oddly this was not taken too seriously at the time. In short, Srila Prabhupada had to constantly "keep in check" the overly ambitious plotting of some of his "top leaders." And the plots were sometimes thinly veiled takeover attempts, if not plots to replace Srila Prabhupada.
This phenomena was very strange to some of us. Srila Prabhupada was supposed to be the guru and yet some of the "leaders" would openly argue with him as we had witnessed on a number of occaisions. The problem, it seems, is that some of the leaders had the attitude that Srila Prabhupada could not manage properly, that they knew better than he did, or worse that Srila Prabhupada was "in the way" of their plans. Perhaps this is why Srila Prabhupada made so many complaints directed towards his leaders, for example he said repeatedly that the GBC could not manage. And he even had to ask rather bluntly, "Has the GBC become more than guru maharaja"? In 1977, Srila Prabhupada would even say, "Have I become a burden"? Thus, when it was finally reported that Srila Prabhupada had complained that he was bing given poison, it made sense that this type of action was possible.
One of our personal favorite devotees in those days was Vishnujana swami. He had a travelling bus program of a different type than Tamal's. He would go to college campuses or similar locations with his musical "band." Then he would lecture on Krishna's philosophy and hand out "Krishna prasadam" or food offered to God. Vishnujana was actually making many devotees for the ISKCON society with his program. Yet he was always being criticized behind his back by Tamal's group.
Tamal would complain that Vishnujana's program was not strict, that it was not distributing enough books, that is was a diversion from the real program, namely his "Radha Damadora" bus program. The worst complaint was that Vishnujana was not bringing in enough "laxmi" or money. Tamal's party also invented some other complaints towards Vishnujana's program, almost making it sound like it was a travelling orgy. Naturally this dicouraged and depressed Vishnujana swami. And later on, by hook and crook, Tamal was able to become the de facto "new manager" of Vishnujana's bus program.
Some say this is why Vishnujana decided to leave his bus program altogether and get married (he had taken vows of celibacy as a sannyasa). We may never know what really happened though, since Vishnujana swami suddenly "disappeared" and was said to have commited suicide in India. Tamal was one of the last persons ever seen talking to him. Later on, the sannyasi Gopi janaballabha also commited suicide in a St. Louis pond, and how did you guess, he did this just after talking to Tamal. And yes, yet another devotee tried to commit suicide by beating himself on the head with a hammer, just after talking to Tamal, and who knows how many other victims there are?
With the departure of Vishnujana swami and the rising up of Tamal, this started a very mechanical, impersonal and greedy era of "preaching." Some "sannyasis" started to alter the book distribution process at that time into a sort of cheating business. In fact, a video was made showing the devotees how to "short change" book sales customers and engage in vartious cheating tactics to "increase the pick" (i.e. the amount of money one could extract from a book sales customer). This was creating a very bad reaction from the public since word was spreading that the Hare Krishnas are a bunch of cheaters.
I decided to try to change this downhill momentum by starting the traditional sankirtana process in Hollywood, a sort of revival of the Vishnujana spirit. I got a few devotees together and we would go out every day dressed in the traditional devotional garb, and we would do "harinama samkirtana" or the actual "chanting, singing and dancing" that Lord Chaitanya's movement is supposed to be based upon. This was viewed with extreme suspicion by the big sannyasis at the time, who wanted to increase the "money changers" program and not the traditional samkirtana.
At this time, Srila Prabhupada's books about Lord Chaitanya's life had come out and so we also started to read these books in a class with our samkirtana group. This was something that the "sannyasis" decided they had to halt, just like they had to halt Vishnujana. And so one day Tamal told Srila Prabhupada that there was a group of men in Los Angeles that was smoking pot, dressing in saris, and they were performing illicit activities. Moreover this group had accepted another guru and they were linked to the deviant Nitai dasa. There was even a rumor that I had made some woman pregnant in the meetings? Evidentally, some people were very envious of us.
Of course, this was not what our group was doing, Tamal's party had just made up some rumors to try to discredit our program. Revatinandana dasa called me aside at that time and said, "You guys aren't smoking pot and wearing saris are you"? I said, "No, why"? Revatinandana replied, "Well, Tamal just told Srila Prabhupada this morning that you are doing that, and that your new guru is Nitai's. Tamal is also making up things about me so I am leaving ISKCON."
A short time later Tamal arranged a sort of "meeting" with Srila Prabhupada, me, Sulochana and his group of sannyasis. Seeing that they were making up things about us, and that the whole sannyasi clique was there --versus-- the few of us, we decided not to challenge them in the meeting and start an ugly accusations shouting match in Srila Prabhupada's presence. Rather I'd write a letter to Srila Prabhupada explaining the situation. I then wrote him a letter saying that I had not been engaging in these illicit things and that I was not working with Nitai and accepting another guru and so on.
Pusta Krishna swami then came up to me a few days later and said, "Wow, how did you like that nice letter of reply that you got back from Srila Prabhupada"? I said, "What letter"? Pusta Krishna look startled and replied, "Well Srila Prabhupada dictated and signed a nice reply to your letter, you mean you never got it?" Then I realized that either Tamal or members of his group were hiding Srila Prabhupada's personal letters. As a side note, another point often overlooked by Tamal and his colleagues is that a devotee may also have a somewhat internal relationship with his spiritual master. One can try to short change the external situation, but a devotee can be aware of his spiritual master on another level and be connected on a level that can not be penetrated with exteral tricks.
When Tamal spotted me in the temple a few days later he came up and said, "I know you Puranjana, you are just waiting for Srila Prabhupada to die so you can sit in his seat." I left the temple and was outside, looking a little depressed probably, so a devotee came up and he said, "What is wrong"? I said, "Tamal just said that I am wating for Srila Prabhupada to die so I can sit in his seat." The devotee replied, "Don't let it get to you, he says that all the time to everybody." Then I realized, maybe this is how Tamal gets people to commit suicide? Of course, Tamal was obsessed with thinking about "who" was going to be sitting in Srila Prabhupada's seat after his departure, and about a year later, it was Tamal who was sitting in his seat. His ambition to sit in Srila Prabhupada's seat was so powerful, he had to project it on others so he could rationalize it within himself. As no small surprise at the current date, twenty-four years later, Tamal's clique are the prime suspects surrounding the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada.
In any event, Srila Prabhupada wrote another letter shortly thereafter, which he had sent to all of the temples, telling them that they had to stop the "short changing" program instituted by some of these leaders. Also in 1976, Tamal's "friend" Bhavananda "swami" had been caught in homosexual acts in Mayapura. Tamal tried to discredit the eye-witness and suppress the whole incident, just to protect his friend. The eye-witness was seen later in South India complaining that he had been drummed out of Mayapura because he had complained of the homsexuality of a sannyasi there. So the pattern of homosexuals being covered-up by Tamal's sannyasi clique was being established.
There were also reports that Bhavananda would "bloop" and go back to his homosexual friends, and he would "party" with people like Andy Warhol, and that Tamal would drive to those places to bring his friend back to ISKCON. So, on the one hand there was a drive to get rid of people who were actually preaching like Vishnujana, or to drive out people like me who were trying to re-establish the traditional samkirtana. And on the other hand, there was a rise in the money changers and the homosexuals, and this element were being given a boost mainly due to the influence of Tamal's sannyasi clique.
Srila Prabhupada himself was saying at this time that he did not agree with the managers, and indeed the managers were refusing to go to China when he ordered them to do so. And so he would say that he is too old to drop everything and focus on managing. He wanted to see his books printed mainly, because he knew that would be his lasting contribution. He had hoped that all of his followers would at least read the books and that this would be the actual basis upon which his society would develop. Srila Prabhupada's plan was very simple. The leaders would not be able to go too far astray since the edcuated mass of devotees would not allow that. Evidentally, as it would turn out, not many of his followers actually read his books?
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Srila Prabhupada tries to bust up the sannyasi clique...
1977 Disappointed with sannyasis, suspends order..
50% of my work undone...
May 27, vigilant management to make sure the GBC do not pose as gurus
May 28th, rtviks will initiate after my departure...
May 30, we are going to divide up the world (Sudama)
July 9th, ritvik letter...
July 10th, Tamal: they will be ritviks...
All of my disciples must come to India...
November 3, do not torture me and put me to death...
November 10th, someone is giving me poison...
December, eleven of us were appointed as gurus...
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March, 1978, we have to go to the Gaudiya Matha...
Pradyumna letter rejected...
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. to be continued.
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SITES TO CHECK OUT:
* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Oldham, UK (PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk)
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111)
* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc
Prabhupada samkirtana site
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
*
http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P.
REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage)
* http://www.vedabase.com/ (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)
* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters:
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933
* POISON TRANSCRIPT
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
* http://www.winink.com/tkg/ (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com (e-mail)
* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html
* http://www.irg.zetnet.co.uk/ (IRG)
* http://www.come.to/irm (IRM)
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/ (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm) (Cyber
gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch
* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S
TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy
In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)