PADA Newsletter, June 20,  2000

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Date: 20. June 2000
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angel108b@yahoo.com (pada)


* Dear PADA
1) GURUKULA WAS ALWAYS OPTIONAL
2) Dear Sir,
3) Priests at Orissa temple oppose entry of converts
4) letter from Halayudha dasa, very prophetic!


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Dear PADA

All Glories to Srila Prabhu-PADA
Ananta koti dandavats. PAMHO

Yes your comments about this gurukula lawsuit are right on. No one in this material world can escape their karma, even the KGBC. This lawsuit is just the tip of the iceberg of the abuse, exploitation, embezzlement and blatant lies of the leaders of the movement. First of all PADA did not file this lawsuit. The gurukulis filed it. The comments about Prabhupada's alleged involvement and knowledge of the abuse are a lie. Your comment about Prabhupada's mention in the lawsuit being nominal has been misunderstood and misinterpreted.

[PADA: I meant that some ex-gurukulis really insult Srila Prabhupada and some of them even hate Krishna and they even eat steaks, tear up pictures, etc. out of defiance. That tone and tenor was not found in this lawsuit, and therefore it is more balanced than it could have been, from the point of view of having this more defiant element of the ex-gurukulis representined in the making of the complaint. There seems to be a lot more consideration within the group that is making the filing, that was the point we made. These court filers are on balance more sincere and sober than some of the more radically vocal element of ex-gurukulis. That is what I meant by "nominal." In short, it could have been worse, lots worse. So we were saved from the more gross complaints, and therefore the issue was more "nominal." Ummm, does this make sense? Of course, we are not saying that the more vocal defiant group do not have a cause for anger, it is just that they have not directed their anger at the real culprits, namely the GBC. In other words, being angry at Krishna is not a good way to resolve anything. And this element is found in cases where children were abused by priests and so on, they may hate the Church and all of its symbols, paraphernalia, leaders and even God.]

YND: Prabhupada never supported, encouraged or condoned abuse or neglect of our children. This is well documented in letters, conversations and personal testimonies of many devotees, myself included.

Ys Yasoda nandan dasa

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1) GURUKULA WAS ALWAYS OPTIONAL

Srila Prabhupada: My dear Tirthanga dasa, Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letter dated Feb. 28th, 1975 and have noted the contents. Regarding your questions, the main things is that whatever is required by you and your family to live nicely in Krishna Consciousness, that much you should accept. Do not take more than what you actually need. And you should give what ever you can to the temple as donation. Nothing is compulsory. Whatever you kindly pay, that will be accepted.

Regarding sending children to Gurukula, that is also optional, not compulsory. The most important things are that you follow very carefully all of the rules and regulations such as rising early, and having mangala arati and classes, etc. and that you chant at least 16 rounds daily without fail. These things are most essential for your spiritual advancement and then everything will be alright.

I hope this meets you in good health.
Your ever well-wisher,
A. C. Bhaktivedanta Svami
(S.P.Letter to Tirthanga dasa, 14th March 1975)

[PADA COMMENT: "Sending one's children away" was not a forced requisite of being a devotee all along. My son (Krishna) was born in 1977, while Srila Prabhupada was still present. As soon as Srila Prabhupada departed the GBC's clones at Croome Court placed a huge (3 foot square) picture of Jayatirtha's huge head on the wall of the "gurukula." I was immediately disgusted and came into the temple and announced clearly that my kids will never go to any of the GBC's "guru" kulas because the kids there are forced to worship unqualified persons and not gurus.

This did not make me very popular in ISKCON at the time mind you, but no one came up and said, "Well, you will have to send your kids there or else." No. Everyone knew that there is no "absolute rule" from Srila Prabhupada that your kids MUST go. It was voluntary. And my kids never did go to the gurukulas, with the sole exception that my son and me stayed as Atreya's farm for a few months. And the school there was monitored by Mother Tribhuvanesvari whom I trusted like a sister.

I stayed there too and watched him, not trusting anyone, especially at that juncture. Also, the first problem at least after 1977 was that no one was worshipping "the guru" at the gurukulas, they were worshipping self appointed "sum totals of the demigods," false so-called Jesus like gurus, if not ego-maniacs, if not maybe murderous poisoners. We think that the statistics will show that most of the gurukula abuses took place after 1977, when Srila Prabhupada was not the guru but the GBC had made deviants into gurus, and they were making deviated policies all round including those at the gurukula. GBC annual reports and documents will show, even in court, that the GBC's main obsession was their guru worship, and little discussion was made over the gurukula problem or other problems.

Another factor is that "sending one's child to gurukula" meant one had to pay a monthly tuition of say $150.00 or more per month. Seems inexpensive, not a lot of money, but many devotees were very poor and they never sent their kids because the could not afford the tuitiion. Again, there was no "law" that one has to come up with the money "or else." No. One just did not send one's child to the gurukula if one could not or would not. Srila Prabhupada never said, all of the children will have to go, and those who cannot afford it will have to find a job and pay the tuition. No. It was understood that it was voluntary. One sent one's child if one wanted to, and usually ONLY if one could afford it.

Before 1977 there were some troubles, agreed, but the extensive mass molestation, cult enforced ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles, and resultant nests, webs and infrastructure of molestation was simply not allowed prior to 1977. After 1977, it was clear that the GBC were no longer worshipping any bona fide guru, so anyone who placed their kids in that "guru-kula" to be trained up to worship the GBC did so at their peril, and not according to Srila Prabhupada's ideal. We tried to point out this "false worship" foundation after 1977 and did not get much support from the rank and file, nor have they supported us significantly up to the present day.

I am not sure what the actual statistics are, but before 1977 we heard of no instances of starving (we lived in England) although we had heard about a rare beating and molestation case by one teacher in France prior to 1977? If there was a larger pattern, then this was certainly known by the GBC and thus they are to blame for a wider problem? Also, were they reporting what they knew to Srila Prabhupada? Not always. We know they hid things from him. As for Srila Prabhupada, they got tired of his advice and complaints and so they poisoned him? It does not seem like some GBC fully accepted his orders in any case? Nor could a person who is surrounded by the envious, if not the poisoners, send or recieve messages in a straightforward manner? Nor should we expect that he could have done so?

Anyway, it seems that is was after 1977 that the floodgates of starving, beating, molestation, and so on were developing widely. And if there were some known instances before 1977, and a potentially troublesome trend was being noticed by the leaders, then why didn't one, some or all of these leaders, including temple presidents and elders, try to curtail this trend? Or at least, why did they not join us to get rid of the people who were encouraging this trend? Instead, most leaders compromised with the molester pooja cult? Even by 1986, none of the leaders would actually fully join with us, and many of them joined up with the people who were trying to murder us?

For example, Bahudak lead a "reform" that ended up reinstating a homosexual pedophile and murdering my friend and almost, me. What kind of reform is that? Nor have many of the present or ex-leaders ever given us the time of day all along? To sum, most of the past and present leaders compromised with the post-1977 molester pooja cult and that is where most of the abuse occured. This is not Srila Prabhupada's fault, they had compromised with an evil program.]

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2) Dear Sir,

Initially when I heard about the case I thought the plea of the children was genuine. And also the fact that your company has taken up the case shows a significant importance to the plea. But when I came to know about the accusation made against our Guru and the Founder of this wonderful movement Srila Prabhupad, I THOUGHT YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST THE CASE.

[PADA: Wrong sir. Pada did not write the filing of this case? Nor was I consulted to write it by anyone? Why are you saying "you" i.e. pada wrote this filing? This is false. Nor did we file any case? Rather we asked the devotees for 20 years to file a case that we would have full control over, and thus we could write a filing as we wanted it to be done, and they (people like you) refused to help us. Now this present case is the result of your neglect to act. And thus, you have lost this case already, since your failure to act has lead to the current status.]

My god brothers have submitted to you enough quotes of Srila Prabhupad, which shows how compassionate and what kind of vision he has got. He told that these children are from VAIKUNTA and we need to treat them nicely even better than the DEITY in the temple! You will not be able to appreciate these things if you are not a devotee. And without understanding, if you do something then you will not be spared. Ignorance is not an excuse. Hare Krishna! Hope you will come to your real sense,

Trying to be a Servant of Srila Prabhupad,
Satya Gaura Chandra Das

[PADA: OK, these children are from Vaikuntha, agreed. So then why didn't you help me oppose the GBC when they were abusing everyone, including these kids --starting 20 years ago? Where have you been sir, eating doughnuts at the coffee shop like some of our "sacred pujaris"?]

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3) Priests at Orissa temple oppose entry of converts

Bhuvaneshwar (Agencies) - Priests at the famous Jagannath temple have opposed the entry of converts and reconverts to Hinduism into the place. Lingaraj Mishra, secretary of the Srimandira Mukti Madap Pandit Sabha, which groups preachers at Puri, signalled the opposition at a seminar.

He declared, "The lower caste people, mainly from the Pana community, who had been converted into Christianity are known as Mlechha (untouchables) and they eat the flesh of cows. We cannot allow Mlechha people to enter the lord Jagannath temple at Puri, whether they are Hindus or Christians." "The temple is not open to people who eat beef because cows are worshipped in Hindu religion," he said and added, "People who are coming back to the Hindu religion may go back to any other religion again."

Mishra has aired his views at a time when the entry of Hindu converts to Hindu temples is already under debate. The issue came to the fore after a Hindu seer, the Puri Sankaracharya, proposed to build a special "swastik temple" for them. The Shankaracharya has suggested that the converts worship in "swastik temples" dedicated to Lord Ganesha and built according to ancient Hindu scriptures.

Organisations like the Vishwa Hindu Parishad, however, are advocating that the converts be treated like all Hindus. There are special rules governing the eligibility of entry to the Srimandir, the sanctum sanctorum of the temple. Lord Jagannath can be worshipped by anybody from any religion. Those whose entry in the temple is prohibited can have the 'darsan' (glimpse of the lord) when he is taken out in a procession during the Rath Yatra, the annual temple festival, Mishra said.

Temple administrator Himansu Samont Roy said that a decision on entry of converts and reconverts would have to be taken in consultation with the managing committee of the temple known as the Mukti Mandap Pandita Sabha. "No such proposal is pending with the administration," he said. "If any proposal comes up in this regard, steps would be taken on the basis of the guidelines framed for the management of the temple," he said.

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4) letter from Halayudha dasa, very prophetic!

> 2) LAWSUIT INEVITABLE
>
> Dear Puranjana Prabhu:
>
> Dandavatas. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
>
> Now that the Turley lawsuit has been filed, I guess you might say that
> for the stubborn GBC, the point of no return has been passed. Not only
> will these hard-headed men not listen to any reason, they will go all
> out to eliminate anyone who dares to say "the emperor has no clothes!"
> That should surprise no one, since the same demoniac consciousness
> that dictates global manipulation, has firmly infiltrated ISKCON.

THIER ATTACHEMENT TO THEIR HONOR-/HORR-IFIC POSITION HAS TRAPPED THEM
SLEEPING COMFORTABLY IN THE LAP OF FALSE PRESTIGE. ALL GLORIES TO LORD OF
THE CHEATERS, THE SUPREME CHEATER HIMSELF, LORD MARKANCOR. MAY HE CHEAT ME
OUT OF MY FALSE EGO.

> The only real sad thing in all this is that Srila Prabhupada's name
> will be dragged in the mud and that millions of persons who might
> ordinarly be interested in our cultural presentation will become even
> more suspicious of us and even less willing to listen to us. This, in
> my opinion, is the intent behind the consciousness that has dominated
> this movement since
> Post-disappearance, even if the ISKCON "leadership" pawns and agents
> of this consciousness do not know it. I am not happy to see this
> lawsuit filed, but I accept it as an inevitability. It is going to be
> a trial of fire for sincere devotees, but in the long run will result
> in much-needed "housecleaning".

HOW MUCH MORE CLEAR A SIGNAL CAN WE SEE THAT THE LORD AND SRILA PRABHUPADA
ARE COMPLETELY DISSATISFIED WITH THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE
NAME OF "DEVOTIONAL SERVICE" TO THEM? NOT "HOUSECLEANING" IT IS LIKE
CALLING THE BOMBING OF HIROSHIMA A "HOUSECLEANING".

> I have included, below, an excerpt from a letter I wrote to the GBC on
> 8/31/97, specifically addressed to Virabahu dasa of Los Angeles. It is
> not meant to be an "I told you so", but merely to highlight the
> refusal of these people to be accountable, to take responsibility for
> the gross defects of our socieity, and to take proactive steps to
> correct them. They wait for a major crisis before they act, and with
> each crisis more trust is destroyed, more victims fall, more laxmi is
> "lost", more setbacks for the preaching effort and more blows to the
> "body" of Srila Prabhupada.

THIS IS TRUE OF MOST EVERYONE. THERE HAVE BEEN ONLY A FEW GUTSY FOLK LIKE
PURANJANA AND OTHERS WHO HAVE PLAYED THE DANGEROUS ROLE OF WHISTLEBLOWER IN
A SOCIETY OF EASE-LOVERS. MANY REFORMS HAVE ONLY COME AFTER IT HAD BECOME
TO THE POINT WHERE CORRUPTION WAS TO BE INEVITABLY EXPOSED. FOR EXAMPLE,
KIRTANANANDA WAS ONLY EXPELLED AFTER IT WAS CLEAR TO ALL WITHIN THE SOCIETY
THAT HE WAS KNEE-DEEP IN QUICKSAND, AND WAS TO BE INDICTED FOR ALL KINDS OF
CRIMINAL BEHAVIORS, INCLUDING CONSPIRACY TO MURDER. MAINTENANCE OF THE
SOCIETY'S GOOD BEHAVIOR REQUIRES DAY-TO-DAY VIGILANCE, THAT FACT EVERYONE
SHOULD NOT DENY AND AVOID. WHEN THE SOCIETY IS RUN BY DUBIOUS CHARACTERS
WHO ARE SUSPECTED OF SO MANY ILLEGAL ACTS, IF ALLOWED TO FLOURISH, IT ONLY
BRINGS ULTIMATE DESTRUCTION. SO MANY PEOPLE ARE ON TRIAL HERE, NOT JUST
THOSE NAMED IN THE LAWSUIT.

> In this case, Virabahu's obstinate response to me was to order me not
> to contact him anymore, and he also stated that he "always thought I
> was a different person". I suppose he thought me to be an unthinking,
> blind follower. That, I imagine, is the highest aspiration these
> so-called leaders of ISKCON have for their innocent followers. Where
> Srila Prabhupada wanted
> "independently thoughtful and competent" disciples, they want instead,
> collectively thoughtless and stupid shleeple (sleeping sheep dressed
> like people).
>
> From Letter dated 8/31/97 to GBC c/o Virabahu dasa:
> "You have also displeased Srila Prabhupada in many other was, too many
> to list here. But this next area is extremely important and I believe
> that it is a nasty time bomb waiting to explode. I call it Srila
> Prabhupada's revenge. When it does explode, mark my words, we will
> become scorned by many in mainstream society. Many of our friends will
> abandon us and many of us will be ashamed to wear dhoti, shaved head
> and tilak in public, and to be identified with ISKCON. Not only have
> you, our leaders, displeased Srila Prabhupada in this area, but also
> you have committed a great evil, have attempted to cover it up and
> have heaped great insult and embarrassment on the head of Srila
> Prabhupada as a result.
>
> Judge for yourself if He's pleased. How else can I introduce the
> subject of the abuses of our children in your gurukulas? They were put
> in your care for safe keeping and proper training.
> You knew how much Srila Prabhupada valued the children, of whom he had
> high hopes. Yet, disregarding his instructions, you put perverts and
> sexual deviants in charge of them, pederasts who had themselves been
> molested for many years by the higher ups, then turned a blind eye and
> a deaf ear to their pleas for relief from their abusers.

NO, NOT ONLY TURNED A DEAF EAR, SOME WHO COMPLAINED OF SEXUAL ABUSE OF THEIR
CHILDREN WERE THEN PUT OUT INTO THE STREET WITHOUT A PENNY, AFTER YEARS OF
LOYAL, SELF-SACRIFICING "SERVICE" TO THEIR SELF-APPOINTED GURU. SOME HAD
THEIR WIVES AND CHILDREN TAKEN AWAY FORCIBLY.

> Where was Pariksit maharaj, when Kali was beating Mother Cow and
> Father Bull? That's right. On the scene with his drawn sword ready to
> decapitate the miscreant! When the children were being abused, where
> were our GBC men? "Constantly traveling to see how the students are
> learning, giving advice for improving the temple standards."? Why has
> this been covered-up all these years? And why has there been no
> accounting? Responsibility means Accountability. We, the rank and
> file members of this society, are individually powerless to exact that
> accountability. You make the rules, and if you don't wish to speak
> with us lowly peons who can force your divine selves to do so?
> However, let me tell you what damage you have done.

FOR THOSE WHO LOVE TO JUSTIFY THEIR CRITICISM OF PURANJANA, PURANJANA HAS
FORCED THE EYES OF THE GBC OPEN TO LOOK AT THEIR OWN HORRIBLE NEGLECT OF
THEIR CHILDREN. PURANJANA HAS RUBBED THE NOSES OF THESE SELF-PROCLAIMED
LEADERS IN THE LINE OF SRILA PRABHUPADA IN THE STOOL OF THEIR OWN COVERUPS.
IT IS THIS TYPE OF MAINTENANCE AND VIGIL THAT MUST BE DONE IN ORDER TO
PROTECT AND ENSURE THE INTEGRITY OF THE SOCIETY, NOT THAT EVERYONE BECOME
TOLERANT BY SOME IMPERSONAL PHILOSOPHY AND ALLOW THE WEAK TO BECOME
EXPLOITED. OUR PHILOSOPHY IS PRACTICAL, AND NOT SIMPLY TO ENGAGE IN
LEARNING SANSKRIT AND THE ESOTERIC PARTS OF ADVANCED RASA, AND LET EVERYONE
GO TO HELL.

> His Holiness, Lokanatha Maharaja, in his most recent lecture here in
> Los Angeles, spoke about the fact that if we don't preserve our
> families and opt instead for divorce and remarriage, we damage the
> children, and in so doing, he said, "they will hate your Krsna".
>
> I am sure that there are some among that group of molested gurukulis
> who hate Krsna. But one thing we can say for all of them is that
> almost to a man, they do not respect you as their
> leaders. You have betrayed their trust. Many of them have deep and
> lasting scars as a result. All you have to do is read the literature
> on child abuse to know the devastating consequences that result from
> such activities. To make matters worse, you have not demanded a full
> accounting. You have not dealt severely with the perpetrators and
> demanded justice be done according to the law of the land.

THEY MAY HATE KRSNA, BUT FOR SURE, THEIR LAWSUIT IMPLICATES SRILA
PRABHUPADA, WHICH IS A MORE SERIOUS SITUATION. KRSNA CAN FORGIVE, BUT WHEN
ONE OFFENDS KRSNA'S DEVOTEE, HE CANNOT FORGIVE. THIS PORTION OF THE LAWSUIT
MUST BE CLEARED-UP.

> Instead, you have systematically covered up this matter, and have been
> lenient with the others of the "old boys club" who have been caught in
> the chain of this degradation. You have failed to protect Srila
> Prabhupada's most precious treasure, his children. And does that not
> fit hand in hand with your Society-wide institutionalized disrespect
> for women? You pay no more than lip service to the ideal of protecting
> our women and children, have kicked out many brahminically - inclined
> devotees, and have little or no regard for the cow-like ordinary
> devotees.

IT IS APPARENT THAT THE GOOD OL' BOYS CLUB ONLY WATCHES AFTER EACH OTHER.
IT IS A AURA OF INFALLIBILITY AND GURUDOM CREATED BY THEMSELVES THAT
EMPOWERS THE LEADERS OF THAT MOVEMENT. TO CONSIDER THAT CHILDREN, WOMEN,
RANK & FILE, SRILA PRABHUPADA AND HIS LEGACY, ETC. ARE EVEN CONSIDERED IS
NAIVE.

> Women and children may be less intelligent according to sastra, but
> that does not make them 2nd class citizens. That means they must be
> protected. Anyone who exploits them on the belief that they are less
> intelligent is himself less intelligent and worse than a demon. In
> fact, in this age of Kali, everyone is less intelligent and that means
> both you and I are included:
> "manda sumanda matayoh manda bhagya hy upadrutah." How can women - and
> children - hating sannyasis, and other sexually frustrated persons,
> making a pretense of celibacy, manage our Movement consisting of so
> many women and children? Srila Prabhupada saw that this was
> impossible. He forbade it.

AFTER THIS STUFF HITS THE FAN EVEN JOE SIXPACK AND STEVE THE STREETSWEEPER
WILL BE CONSIDERED INTELLECTUAL GIANTS COMPARED TO THE GBC AND THEIR
BUDDIES. NOBODY TURNS A BLIND EYE TO THE SEXUAL AND PHYSICAL AND
PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN, EXCEPT THESE FOLK.

> Let the sannyasis travel and preach. They were actually very attached
> to sex life and being denied the benefit of the householder asrama,
> they could only barely survive gross sexual misconduct by directing
> overt hatred to women and the children produced of sex life. Look how
> many of them returned to gross sex life. What a travesty! The temple
> presidents must manage. Srila Prabhupada said it. They need a cohesive
> unit of men and women for the temples to be successful. Children are
> a necessary and inevitable part of the equation. And is it not the
> grhasta asrama that maintains the other three? We have it completely
> backwards. Here it is the sannyasis that have the money and live a
> life of luxury and ease instead of one of renunciation.

THEY CANNOT BE CONSIDERED AS SANNYASSIS THOSE WHO CANNOT RENOUNCE MONEY, AS
YOU SAID THEY OFFERED $150K, AND WOMEN. WHAT WILL THEY PREACH?

> Does this please Srila Prabhupada? That is the corruption of the
> sannyasa asrama. Because you deviated, all these problems have
> resulted. You have displeased Srila Prabhupada. Recently, in Florida,
> a group of Sannyasis, hearing the complaints of the abused children
> agreed to give them $150,000 in compensation. (How is it possible for
> sannyasis, who have no connection with money to come up with this sum?
> My guess is that they are not real sannyasis, but merely wealthy
> bachelors in a peculiar dress). Do you suppose these boys and girls
> want money? How crass! They want justice! Srila Prabhupada has taught
> "atmavan manyate jagat", the fool thinks everyone is like him. Because
> these men are motivated by money, they think everyone else is. Not so.
> These children are now young adults.

SANNYASIS HOLDING $150,000. WHAT IS THE MEANING THEN OF BEING A
"RENUNCIATE"? THEY HAVE NOT RENOUNCED MONEY? THE ONLY THING THEY RENOUNCED
WAS THEIR OFFER TO BUY OFF THEIR GUILT WITH BLOOD-MONEY. THEY ARE SO
RENOUNCED, THE RENOUNCED EVEN THEIR BLOOD-MONEY OFFER TO THESE ABUSED KIDS.

>
> They are bright, intelligent and have a chip on their shoulder. They
> know that the law is on their side. They know that you have been
> criminal. Your feeble attempts to buy them off will not work. It is
> only a matter of time before the laws of nature take their course and
> you and
> the other leaders of this International Society for Child Molesting
> have your hands full with several huge class-action lawsuits brought
> against you by these children. They will own you. All the world will
> know of this scandal and you will be greatly disrespected in all
> circles. Your celibate priests will be laughed at as pretenders and
> your sannyasis as simply cheats. I am firmly convinced that this is
> going to be the next major challenge that Srila Prabhupada will bring
> upon you.

THEY WANT TO SHUTUP THE KIDS WITH MONEY, AND NO APOLOGY? HERE KID TAKE THIS
MONEY AND SHUTUP?

> Here's what I suggest you do: Begin your own thorough investigation
> now. Interview all the students who have been abused. Get names,
> dates, places, times, and exact details. Have the perpetrators
> promptly arrested and begin full-scale prosecution of all offenders.
> In short, a full accounting must be given and justice must be done. If
> you do not do so voluntarily, you will be forced to do so
> involuntarily. In the past, you have refrained from disciplining your
> peers because they knew too much, could spill the beans on you too,
> and toppling them could mean that your own followers might question
> your purity. (Was this not the reason why Hansadutta was allowed to
> remain in power during his North American reign of terror, and why
> Bhavananda continues to be sheltered by you?) You must bring these men
> to justice.

TOO LATE. NOW THE SPIN HAS BEGUN. "OH SIR, WE HEARD ABOUT ABUSE AND WE DID
WHAT WE COULD." THEN THEY SHED FALSE CROCODILE TEARS BORN OF COVERUP, NOT
SHAME.

> That will restore faith in the leadership and prove that you are ready
> and willing to act on the important issues. It will prove that you
> are champions of truth and the protector of the women and children as
> well. Why are you so keen to protect criminals? If you do not do this,
> I have do doubt that there will be hell to pay, and it will take this
> Society many years to recover from the scandal. Do not spare anyone.
> You are so quick to ex-communicate and
> banish anyone who speaks a contrary opinion, (even if they are
> correct, or merely fulfilling their brahminical duty to speak up), but
> slow to see that justice is done and wrongs righted. That is to your
> eternal shame."
>
> Halayudha dasa

SOLUTION: APOLOGIZE SINCERELY. APOLOGIZE SINCERELY. APOLOGIZE SINCERELY.

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SITES TO CHECK OUT:

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Oldham, UK (PSSHearing@prabhupada.freeserve.co.uk)
* New York City, phone: 212-674-0698 (pss52@hotmail.com)
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
*
http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
*
http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

*
http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
*
http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
*
http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
*
http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
*
http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
*
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
*
http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
*
gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

*
http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
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http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm(Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
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http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

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ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
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Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)

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Puranjana's new email
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Chant Hare Krishna and be happy!
All glories to His Divine Grace A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada!