1) Dear Adri,
2) BHAGAVAN 3

Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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1) Dear Adri,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Adri and the IRM are now saying that PADA has facilitated the defamation of Srila Prabhupada by the Turley case? Excuse us, but Adri was right there in Calcutta for the past 20 years while all the molestation was going on right under his nose? The mass molestation empire, supported by Adri for the past 20 years, is what caused the Turley case, not us? Wake up Adri! PADA did not "cause" the molestation case, rather YOUR inaction did. And that is what the suit rightly claims, "inaction by the leaders." Adri this means: you. And shastra agrees, the cause of the mass molestation is folks like Mr. Adri. Maunam samyam raksati. Moreover, if this molestation case was being filed in India, Adri would be listed as one of the leaders who is guilty of RICO, just as they are listed here in the USA.

Yes, Adridharana has been one of them. Now that this molest case (that Adri de facto caused by his inaction) is breaking open, he is complaining about it as being offensive? So why didn't Adri join us in 1980 and get rid of this molester pooja? And now he is blaming us for the case against it? Ummm, like hello? PADA, the guys who had their fingers in the hole in the dam, and were yelling for help for 20 years, are the cause of the dam breaking open? Adri said all along that we are "cranks" and he is blaming us now? And did Adri ever fund or even try to organize a proper molestation investigation in India? Nope. A legal case for the gurukulis complaint all along? Nope. Will he help the gurukulis with another legal action even now? Nope. Did he ever show any concern for their plight all along? Nope. Is Adri trying to attack the molested victims with what they were finally able to get together, with no assist from Adri? Yes. Is that what folks like Bhagwan dasa are doing now as well? Yes.

Worse, Adri bank rolled the molester empire of the GBC and Jayapataka and he never helped those of us who were trying to stop the homosexual pooja. At all. Ever. Again, that is what caused the molestation. Again, that is what caused the lawsuit, not us! Nice try, but this bait and switch will never work Adri. Lets face it, you supported the molester empire. People like Adri are the de facto cause of the molestation, and that is what the lawsuit itself says, that ALL of you leaders are de facto responsible for either action or inaction. That means you: Adri. You were one of them. Now you are trying to move the hangman's noose over to PADA's head. Nice try Adri, GBC style of rewriting history. This is not going to fly. No wonder Adri doesn't like the Turley case, it shows him up like a spotlight!

Adri is trying to blame us -- for his inaction -- which precipitated this lawsuit? No Adri, you and your support of the worship of homosexual pedophile's regime is what caused this lawsuit. Your inaction. You are one of the RICO types. And what "action" did you take Adri? You harassed and discredited us all along, de facto PROTECTING the molester empire, just like you discredited us on the poison issue. Now you finally woke up to one point of what we were saying, about the molester gurus, but only after 20 years of your supporting and bank rolling the people who wanted to murder us? Adri finally followed in our footprints on point "a." Good. Adri you are no longer the defender of molester gurus sitting on Krishna's altars. You finally woke up after our screaming at you for 20 years.

And that would have been good except that now you have graduated to an even worse offense. Now you are the number one defender of the poisoners of Srila Prabhupada. You are going backwards. Supporting the people who poison the pure devotee is your new role, after defending their butt-f pooja regime? Adri has graduated? He no longer finances the worship of butt-f guru regimes, good move, except he is now defending the poisoners of the pure devotees of God? He has moved up (?) from defending "gurus and butt-f" to defending "guru killers." That is moving up? He says that Judas is his new idea of a good man who needs his legalese defense team of KK and Yaduraja? "We love Judas yes we do." Ummm, why defend Judas? What is the agenda here? And were you not the big defenders of Judas all along? And isn't this why we have the molest case? Yes.

Adri, and for that matter folks like Krishna Kanta, are among the big causes of this Turley case in the first place because they said all along that PADA is a foolish crank case. PADA is speaking toilet talk about butt-f gurus? Well Adri, your gurus are or were butt f gurus? We were and are right. And you supported their worship for 20 years Adri? Right? Yes. And is that molester guru web and nest infrastructure the basis of the Turley suit? Yes. In sum, Adri has a lot to do with the actual source of this complaint, while we have been attacking Adri's molester guru empire all along, in spite of folks like Adri and KK saying all along "oh forsooth, PADA's foul language," i.e. lets discredit pada and thus de facto support the GBC's cult enforced ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles, and poisoners to boot?

And Adri is still saying that PADA is too radical as he has done all along? No remorse. In sum, Adridharana dasa supported the cult enforced ritualistic worhsip of homosexual pedophiles for the past 20 years? That is what caused the Turley suit. And now that this has come to a head, he says that we facilitated the complaint? No, Adridharana has done that. Not only did he facilitate the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles, he bank rolled and financed Mayapura, giving the cult enforced ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile's cult his support. Now, when we forward another complaint, that Srila Prabhupada has said that he is being poisoned, guess who stands up to defend the GBC? Adri!

Doe he never learn? And now he is making up lies, that we facilitated the Turley case? The actual fact is that Adri is front and center to blame for this case. And guess who Adri has had over at his house for tea and crumpets? The molester pooja-ites and the poisoners of the pure devotee. And Adri has done this for the past 20 years? Adri, you should not keep on defending these bums. Don't you get it? Your defense of them is not appreciated. And you are attacking us just as you have done all along. No remorse. You are proud that you supported butt-f gurus and worship of guru poisoners, and you harassed those of us who tried to stop this? And you gave millions of rupees support to these bums and not one paisa support to us? Why? Now, you are proud of that? What?

thanks pada

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2) BHAGAVAN 3

BD: ...and (for GBC culprits) a temporary if not permanent stepping down of anyone in ISKCON holding any position, including gurus, GBC's and presidents who have not yet made amends in the appropriate arena, with those who claim to have suffered under them.

[PADA: It seems that almost ALL of the GBC are responsible for the "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles"? Or at least they acquiesced with the idea that homosexual pedophiles and their reinstators are, were or could have been gurus?]

BD: There should be a new ISKCON GBC, small in number as Srila Prabhupada wanted, composed of qualified men and women, at least 5 from the ranks of the gurukula, the rest householders.

[PADA: Srila Prabhupada said in early 1977 that the sannyasis were not qualified and that they should get married. Why has it taken you so long to agree with his orders? Why did you suppress his orders for such a long time? And if some of them were homosexuals, fine, then admit that they could not follow. Your job was to closely monitor them. And let them could go live like that at the Purple Panther Bar and Grill in the Castro area, not in the Lord's sacred vyasasana.]

BD: Sanyassis should travel like Maharaja Parikit and see to it that no abuse exists in ISKCON.

[PADA: That is what they were supposed to do all along? They failed to look after the society, so now they have to pay for that neglect.]

BD: I call for a spiritual and conscious resolution to an abominable material problem. I may be reached at terathen@inreach.com. The paper I have written follows.

[PADA: If this is a material problem then let the courts deal with it.]

Yours in service, Bhagavandas

Gaura Purnima, 2000 BD: To the wonderful devotees of Radha and Krsna who were disciples and students of mine, and to my guru godbrothers and sisters who I served with to accomplish many good things for God and Guru, and to the international family of Krsna bhaktas, I offer my greetings and respects.

[PADA: Ummm, Bhagavan still thinks that founder fathers of the "enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles" (enforced with banning, beatings and murders) consists of "gurus." (?)]

BD: To Srila Prabhupada, who has been the largest, deepest, longest influence upon my life in every way; To the Supreme Personalities of Godhead, the Origin of my existence, I offer this communication and ask for Your blessings to heal where healing in needed.

[PADA: Well for starters you say that the GBC, who made innocent children worship homosexual pedophiles as God's "guru successors," are themselves "gurus." This is an insult to God and guru. How can you expect blessings when you insult god and guru?]

BD: It has been fourteen Gaura Purnimas since I removed myself from you.

[PADA: Well, mad dictators like Pol Pot "left their post" as well. Yet everyone still remembers the mayhem they caused when they were in office. Pol Pot is still a much despised figure for his role in causing so much trouble to so many innocent citizens, and so your GBC are remembered the same way. They experts say it will take at least 400 years for Cambodia to recover from Pol Pot's destructive reign, and similarly it may take ISKCON 400 years to recover from your party's mismanaging of it.]

BD: Doors on every level - physical, emotional, and dharmic that once opened into rooms of tremendous activity and energy suddenly slammed shut.

[PADA: Well, you slammed the door on thousands of your God brothers and made an exclusive elite club of the GBC. So, you just got a reaction for your own door slamming.]

BD: But along with forgetfulness, Krsna is also remembrance and in that territory I have never been separated from you, albeit through reminiscences of bliss we once shared or through recognition of the pain caused by my unannounced, callous departure and the feelings of betrayal and deep lost love that still demands to be healed because of it.

[PADA: Ummm, good. Bhagavan admits he betrayed people, and that this caused much grief, and it has not yet healed since the wounds he created are so deep.]

BD: Ultimately as God is Mother and Father of all, we remain forever brothers and sisters who can inherit Their divine grace to replace negativity with friendship and good will.

[PADA: Yet Bhagavan is still branding the the abused as: (1) idiot slacker welfare cases who (2) deserved to be abused all along to compensate for their bad karma (like cattle deserve to be slaughtered?) and who protest because (3) they like to pay lawyers to feed people beef? This is not a sign of "goodwill" on your part? Where is your goodwill?]

BD: At times I have inspired and strengthened many of you. I have also disappointed, shocked, angered you to the point of rage, shook your faith, confused and abused your love.

[PADA: Well yes, you cheated others by posing as a guru. What happens when people find out their guru is a cheater, since time immemorial? They feel rage, shaken faith, confused, abused and disturbed. You knew that your actions would cause pain to others, yet you went ahead and cheated them anyway.]

BD: At times I have protected and guided you and led you to many victories. I have also left you weak, vulnerable and defeated.

[PADA: Prabhupada guided us into victory, you tore his efforts to pieces.]

BD: At times we shared the greater sense of family and at other times that infinite and eternal family has seemed in practice, to be a fantasy or even a myth.

[PADA: Correct. You are not part of Srila Prabhupada's family. You kicked and stomped on those of us who wanted to worship him, and established worship of yourselves.]

BD: At times we had high minded dreams of each other but many nights and days I tormented you in sleep and waking. At times both before and after Prabhupada's disappearance I have strengthened and unified his house and at other times I have caused it to scatter.

[PADA: And you will be remembered primarily for your role in the scattering.]

BD: At times you were my life air and at times I felt my prana going out to so many that I had not the strength to breathe. At times I have felt so much light coming through me that I thought I had no darkness and at times I felt such darkness I thought I had no light.

[PADA: And Stasvarupa has to stay always in a dark room since he too cannot stand the light. Anyway, if you are feeling darkness, then you are not and were not a guru, so you cheated others.]

BD: The Bhagavat says that a truly compassionate man feels the suffering of others as though it is his own. You have suffered because of me and I have lacked the compassion to own it. To all of you and especially my children, their mother and all those in the Yatras in my charge, I express my regrets at the silence I have maintained until now.

[PADA: That is the real question here? When there is a big crisis which will effect some or all of the GBC, then they speak up. Otherwise, they ignore the issues and/or us? Why do you folks wait so long to address things? This looks very, very, very corrupt.]

BD: I have in effect exiled myself from you over these fourteen years.

[PADA: Yes, you reportedly stole money from the safe in the Chateau, then you left with a woman. So, you got what you wanted. Selfishness. Now this lawsuit is not what you wanted? You are being attacked. So now you speak up, but only when it serves to defend yourself? Why didn't you speak up to defend others? That was your job?]

BD: I have a responsibility to share my life with you for all that you have done for me and for all we have been through together. The pen has always been near but the understandings, strength, will, honesty, clarity, sensitivity, and humility have been in want to integrate.

[PADA: Yes, you were not being sued previously so there was no need for you to speak up. You had your cozy little scene. Now, that this scene is being attacked, so you all of a sudden find a pen?]

BD: The times, with the arrival of this new millennium, portend an end to this exile. I pray that we can breathe in the Lotus fragrance of God and become competent to heal.

[PADA: OK, that means you cannot be silent any more. You have to explain why you forced Srila Prabhupada's innocent children to worship homosexual pedophiles? And why did you kick out those of us who objected to your homosexual pedophile worship program, and so on and so forth?]

BD: I have received letters from so many of you. In response to your inquiries, doubts, affection, criticisms, accusations, well wishes and overall desire to understand what happened, I endeavor here to be real in sharing myself with you, repentant to all who have suffered because of me and open to releasing us from the bondage of being frozen in time.

[PADA: Sounds good. So exactly when are we going to get your "explanation" for which there are so many inquiries, doubts, criticisms, accusations and a desire to understand what happened?]

BD: For the terribly long time that it has taken to write to you. For the times I interfered with your love, devotion and service to Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: And you still are interfering because you are still saying that the leaders of the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles are "gurus"?]

BD: For the times I minimized your devotion and service, For the times I interfered with your personal relationships as husband and wife or parents to your children,

[PADA: Good. You interfered with the relationship of husband and wife, as did your good pal Kirtanananda. Marriage breaking. This is forbidden. You interfered with their role as parents. In essence, you took over the parental guardian role by saying you will take care of the kids and see to their welfare in the gurukulas. Yet you made false promises since you did not take care of these children?]

BD: For the times I confused your identity, For disturbing Prabhupada's awesome achievements,

[PADA: Well, for disturbing Srila Prabhupada you are in such major trouble...]

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SITES TO CHECK OUT:

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
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* New York City, phone: 212-674-0698 (pss52@hotmail.com)
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)