MUKUNDA (Oldham) MADNESS,
Jayapataka grounded
1) Subject: Recent abuse case settlement by the Franciscan Friars
2) Subject: Calcutta suicide
3) (Good ole boys must go)
Srila Prabhupada's Reputation Will Shine On His Own Merit
By Subhadra dasi
4) ANUTTAMA WRITES (ISKCON Communications)
We Must All Take up the Healing Process

Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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MUKUNDA (Oldham) MADNESS,

you may have seen it, his team now says that the recent airplane crashes, including the fiery Concorde crash in France, prove conclusively that pada is wrong and that these airplanes are confirmation of our direction. Ummm, have you guys been smoking again? Would you guys also notice below that the persons who are putting the brakes on your former gurus are folks like the (karmi) courts of Calcutta and not your divine selves?

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Jayapataka grounded

COURT"S TRAVEL BAR ON ISKCON ACTIVISTS.

CALCUTTA: The acting chief metropolitan magistrate K.P. Dutta on Monday ordered the police to take necessary steps against eight persons attached to ISKCON, so that they cannot leave India. The eight are :Jayapataka Swami, Satadhanya Das, Dayaram Das, Bhadracharan Das, Birchandra Das, Krishnalata Das, Basanti Das and Subrabhrata Das. The jailor of Presidency Jail lodged an FIR with Hastings Police Station on August 3 against the above persons after the death of an ISKCON activist, undertrial prisoner Sureshwar Das.

In the FIR it was alleged that these persons abetted Sureshwar in committing suicide inside the Presidency Jail. Sureshwar was arrested by police on rape charge. The vice president of Iskcon has filed a petition praying for proper action. (PTI)

[PADA: This looks pretty strange? The newspapers say that the "Krishnas" will use false rape charges as politics to takeover temple properties? Jeepers pilgrims! In any event, there is a need to make legal clamps on these bogus leaders and we have to give Adri lots of credit for putting the brakes on these JPS organization leaders. We do not need another JPS world tour blitz to "save ISKCON." We still think that the best move would have been to place poison charges on these bogus leaders and then the public could see easily who is the good guy and who is not, in more black and white terms.]

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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 9:02 PM
Subject: Recent abuse case settlement by the Franciscan Friars

SANTA BARBARA, California (AP) -- The Franciscan Friars of California will pay $1.7 million to a man who claims a priest molested him when he was 9 years old, settling the last of more than a dozen lawsuits based on sexual abuse allegations at a seminary.

All of them have been settled out of court and the friars publicly apologized. The Catholic organization reached agreement with John L. Allen and his lawyers last week. Both sides agreed to keep details of the settlement confidential for one week. "No amount of compensation is enough," said Allen, now a 27-year-old dental hygienist who lives in Northern California.

Allen alleged in a 1999 lawsuit that he was repeatedly molested by Robert Van Handel, who ran the St. Anthony's Seminary boys choir, in 1982 and 1983. Van Handel denied the allegations. In a separate criminal case, Van Handel and another St. Anthony's priest were convicted of child molestation in 1994 and Van Handel was sentenced to eight years in prison.

Although only Van Handel was accused of molesting Allen, church officials determined in 1993 that 11 St. Anthony's friars _ one-fourth of the priests assigned -- had sexually abused at least 34 boys between 1964 and 1987, the year the seminary closed.

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> Hare Krsna,
> As you may already have heard, Sureswar prabhu committed suicide
> two days ago in Calcutta. He was in jail, accused of raping the
> widow of an ISKCON member there. He maintained his innocence,
> claiming that he had been framed and that he was a victim of
> Mayapur-Calcutta politics. Unfortunately, the local press appears to
> have picked up on this angle, as you will see in the 3 newspaper
> articles that I'm forwarding separately.
>
> From what I understand, his funeral is planned for tomorrow. That is
> also the day of the San Francisco Ratha Yatra. I will pray to Lord
> Jagannatha for all involved.
>
> Ys,
> Madhusudani dasi
>
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(Good ole boys must go)

3) Srila Prabhupada's Reputation Will Shine On His Own Merit
By Subhadra dasi

DD: In Ksamabuddhi's article he mentioned that despite severe differences with ISKCON administration, he (and others) never attempted to exact vengence in the form of a lawsuit.

[PADA: No kidding, that is why "the troubles" went on, and on, and on, ad infinitum. Criminal charges need to be made against criminal activity, and if not, that activity will flourish.]

DD: Was he (Ksamabuddhi) abused? What did he do? Did he take any action in relation to the administration to insure they would not treat others in the future as he was treated? I have also experienced "differences" with ISKCON administration. A few years ago a man broke my ribs, and the temple appointed him as temple treasurer the next month. He was a well-known woman beater, and although I'm not sure that the whole temple board knew that I had been the latest attack, some of them did know.

[PADA: Wowsers. This woman writer was beaten up by a man who ALREADY had a reputation for BEATING WOMEN up. And what was done to fix that? The women beater was elevated (rewarded) to a higher post in the administration heirarchy. "We love women beaters yes we do, for that is what our guru OJ tells us to do..."]

DD: But I was told it was my karma. I didn't do anything. I can't help but wonder, though, if the women he had abused in the past had done something to exact vengeance by the law, would he have beat me also? Or even have had the opportunity? If, instead of being a dutiful victim of karma, if I had taken some action - could I have helped prevent that person from hurting others in the future?

[PADA: Excellent points. 1) The leaders knew this man was a beater of women. 2) They did not get this violent thug upon women corralled in, instead they gave him a higher post. 3) Thus, he was able to beat up ANOTHER woman, thus, this is THE leaders (very bad) karma.]

DD: Ksamabuddhi mentions that it is the Gurukulis' karma from past lives that they were abused. He mentions that many people donated money and worked hard for ISKCON, who don't want it all squandered on a lawsuit. I guess then, that is those people's karma too! It also seems that ISKCON's present misfortune is a direct and obvious reaction to its visible past. Or perhaps it isn't misfortune at all!

[PADA: Good point. The lawsuit itself is the karma of people's bad actions and other's negligence.]

DD: Ksamabhuddi claims this lawsuit may destroy and dismantle ISKCON. First of all it is the abuse that went on that would dismantle ISKCON not the victims of the abuse. Second, maybe it would destroy the deeply entrenched good "ol’ boy's" attitudes which has made it possible for so much abuse to take place, and which also made them (the good "ol’ boys") ignore and negate these Gurukulis until they felt right filing this suit.

[PADA: Another good point. The destruction of the children means, de facto, the destruction of the rest of one's society? A society cannot continue if it alieneates, ignores, if not abuses its children? The seeds of destruction have been going on since these GBC abuses were not corralled in for the past 23 years.]

DD: Remember, these are the same children whom Srila Prabhupada stated were our future. They now seem to be fulfilling his words in a very ironic way. Maybe the lawsuit will not destroy, but help ISKCON and it's devotees. Maybe we will start putting people in charge who have not just sincerity and managerial intelligence, but who have compassionate and encouraging natures, and who don't have elitist or punitive attitudes. Krishna is so kind. Who knows how He'll help us?

[PADA: Great point, a change is required and maybe this lawsuit will be the means to do it by Krishna's arrangement.]

DD: While many of these abuses took place, Srila Prabhupada was not even on the planet, and the zonal acharya system was firmly in place. The gurus were overseeing every aspect of their zone fastidiously. They judged and dealt with devotees as they saw fit. So how is it that now these same people who wielded such control are claiming to be innocent of responsibility? Even ignorance is no excuse. We know from the Vedas that a president or king will have to pay a heavy karmic debt for sins incurred in their kingdoms. These are Krishna's karmic laws. Karmic laws are for the good of everyone. Why are kings responsible for regulating their kingdom? It is in order to protect people.

Now, the American civil court system is attempting to regulate ISKCON and punish it for things that happened under its purview that shouldn't have happened, and to make sure nothing similar happens again. This government punishes institutions by penalizing them financially. That is all that is happening.

Understandably, ISKCON is cringing like every other religion does in a bad legal situation. Do they feel they are above mundane laws and don't want their dirty laundry aired in public or for people to see they were not as pure as they are trying to be? Is it only the little devotees who should be punished by the government?

Take, for example, the Mahamantra case. That was bad P.R. but still we know it had to be taken care of legally. Can't we rise above the maturity level of a child who says "Tattletale!" or "Please don't punish me, I promise I won't do it again".... or a homeboy who says you aren't cool if you tell- you're a "snitch"; or an alcoholic who admonishes his/her kids not to tell shameful family secrets, or like a religious leader who says "If you don't like the way things are, you are free to go, but if you do go, you're in Maya- and if you don't go- you have to accept whatever we do, or be ostracized for speaking against us"...?

Don't we have faith that ISKCON will not only survive, but flourish, in a more viable way than ever? Don't we have faith that Srila Prabhupada's reputation will shine on his own merit? Well, now I have to go figure out what to tell my six year old son and baby girl ...that their Pita is so depressed that he takes medicine and sleeps instead of playing with them/ and that they get yelled at by him when they were only behaving like innocent children... because Pita spent five years in Gurukula getting beaten.

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Dear Fellow Vaishnavas, Members of ISKCON, and Friends,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I would like to share some thoughts regarding our community's response to the Turley lawsuit. As a parent, a board member of Children of Krishna, a supporter of the Child Protection Office, and the principle spokesperson for ISKCON on this issue, I have been personally pulled from all sides by this case, and I find it the most emotionally draining and spiritually challenging issue I have faced in 25 years as a Krishna devotee.

[PADA: Why have you waited for 25 years to address this? And why are you the principle spokesman? Where are the big GBC leaders who created this mess right now? Why are they hiding? One media person told us that it looks like they are hiding since you are the main spokesman? Where are they?]

AD: Certainly the outcome of the case is in the hands of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Yet, as His devotees, it is our duty to try to apply Krishna conscious principles to every event of our lives and to try to act as responsible God conscious people. I am distraught by the past suffering of our children and families. But, I am also distraught by much of our individual and collective responses to the lawsuit, which I find lacking in content and understanding.

[PADA: And yours is lacking in going to the root issue: that the GBC created this imbroglio.]

AD: None of us can predict what will be the outcome of the Turley case. But, there is one thing we do know: Many of our children are in pain, our Hare Krishna communities are suffering, and we are in need of healing. Whatever happens our devotees are in crisis. First and foremost, we need to heal our communities. Whatever happens with the court case, there will still be devotees of Krishna. Many of those devotees are now in need of our support and love.

[PADA: They are not in need "still," they WERE in need all along and they did not get loved. They got the icy cold shoulder from the GBC when they raised complaints. Guys like Mukunda swami heard complaints and he just covered them up. That is not love and concern that is, at best, blind cult dogma; and maybe, worse, mean-spirited policitcs; or, more likely, this is simply cruelty to children beyond belief.]

AD: The sastras tells us that service to the devotees is the most important form of seva. As devotees we need each other, and we need our communities. Without healthy communities, we cannot become Krishna conscious, nor can we be happy, or attain the goal of life.

[PADA: OK, so why does the GBC only listen to the devotees when there is a crisis or a lawsuit?]

AD: "THEY" WON'T DO IT, BUT "I" CAN. I am saddened by the nature of most discussions I have overheard regarding the Turley case. While few of us will have any impact whatsoever on the outcome of the case, we all have a tremendous individual moral responsibility for the well being of our devotees.

[PADA: The GBC could easily change the impact of this case by admitting guilt forthwith. This would save ALL of us all a lot of aggravation and perhaps even save some of the victims from being dragged into more misery by being forced to recount things in the courts. Yes, let the GBC admit they victimized these children and admit guilt from the get go, and perhaps save us from some attacks in the courts, yes this is a good idea.]

AD: Too many of us, I fear, are absorbed in thoughts about what they should do, what they should have done. I have heard youth point the finger at adults, adults point the finger at local authorities, local authorities point to the temple president, presidents point to gurus, gurus pointing to GBC, GBC pointing to parents, etc, etc., etc.

[PADA: So why bother with all this complexity? Just go to the root. The GBC founded, created, sustained and even reinstated their enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile's project, and then they orchestrated the shunning, ostricizing, banning, beating and even assassination of "dissenters" to their homo-pada-ite scheme, so the GBC are 99.9999 percent to blame.]

AD: But what about me? What can I do to help? What can I do to heal?

[PADA: Well, you can start by quitting your flim-flam talk and get to the REAL point, that the GBC caused this.]

AD: What can I do to reach out to our youth and help them? What can I do to help families and communities that are in pain? These are the essential questions, and I humbly beg every devotee to address this question first and foremost. I believe that this is what Krishna wants to see. He is watching to see how each and every one of us responds to the suffering of the Vaishnavas. If we respond with personal sacrifice, compassion, and integrity, He will protect and heal us all.

[PADA: Yes, and "mercy" means we must target the causes and eliminate those causes from our society.]

AD: We can only control one person. And that one person, myself, can be a source of great progress and healing, if I try. And we must try. The need to heal our communities and reach out to our youth and families needs to be the priority of every devotee. Not just the GBC, not just the temple authorities, not just the "older devotees," but also each of us. If we are a GBC, an "authority," or an "older devotee" then we must certainly make this our priority. But, not being those positions is no excuse for lethargy. Whatever our status, we must stop thinking and complaining about what others should do and do something ourselves-now.

[PADA: Excellent point. We agree, there should be mass resignations among the GBC immediately as a show of faith and a sign of sincerity to help the healing take place. Whenever a corporation makes a bad product, the managers immediately resign. And whenever there is a big scandal in a Church, those leaders resign as well. Indeed, the top leaders of our local Catholic Church all resigned recently in a sex and money scandal, and totally new fresh leaders were appointed. That is the standard, and that has factually helped to re-establish faith.

And if the leaders are stubborn and they want to remain in their posts by politics, then they are asked to resign by the congregations or shareholders. And if not they are taken to court for criminal negligence or worse, and all this is seen as an act of faith that the corporation intends to re-establish credibility. In LA one famous movie mogul recently made --just one-- money losing movie, and he had to resign. That is the standard. Bad leaders must go in order to make some credible show to the public that bad managers will not be tolerated.]

AD: Margaret Mead, the well-known anthropologist said, "Never think that a small group of committed people can not change the world, indeed, it is all that ever has."

WHAT CAN I DO? You can do plenty. There are families touched by the pain of the case and past abuse in perhaps almost every Krishna community. Many devotees were abused before they became devotees and the attention of the case is reopening their wounds, as well. Abuse is an epidemic in modern society and we have been victimized by it. We must acknowledge that and respond.

[PADA: Wait a minute, it is not an epidemic of the proportions your GBC created? Let us keep realistic proportions here? For example, in our local schools there are no mass molestations like the GBC's schools have had? Let us acknowledge that the GBC's molestation case load is way beyond what any karmi school would ever dream of? In sum, if there is an epidemic, they are at the center of it? They are the carriers of the epidemic disease? So they should be quarrantined out of the reach of the society?]

AD: Here's some ideas of what many devotees are doing in their local communities. 1) Reach out to a youth in your community. If you don't know a gurukula alumni, you should. Let the youth in your community know you appreciate them. We all need more love and support.

[PADA: OK, good, lets tell them that the GBC is to blame and reinforce their stand against them.]

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ new ISKCON reform page

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)