2) ABOUT LAWSUIT UPDATE: ...He is suing the Christian Church, so he is
considered by the Church to be the best Christian? No, he is for justice
and he will sue the Christians as well as the Krishnas or anyone else who
mistreats children.

3) PETITION FOR CARRYING OUT SRILA PRABHUPADA'S
4) SEATTLE FESTIVAL UPDATE

Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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1) I noticed this one about Puru.

2) PURU DASA WRITES: I can only observe that the devotees in Kirtananda' ashram in NYC are polite, curteous and do not commit Vaisnava aparadha. Their affection for my god brother is their business. I don't discuss it with them, as I generally avoid discussing guru tattva with the disciples of other god brothers who think they can serve as guru.

Some time back Puru wanted to be a guru and take on disciples himself. He had regular correspondence with Gaura Keshava and Kundali in this regard. And Puru was also supporting Tamal Krishna as well as so many of the other guru godbrothers. Now Puru calls himself "Uncle Puru" even to his godbrothers, as if all of a sudden he is everyone's ultimate guru. ys +++++ dasi

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2) ABOUT LAWSUIT UPDATE

DAS: One of the things that I wanted to talk to you about was the court case. My son ****** was one of the children who was abused in Vrindavana gurukula in 1985-86 and he has joined the suit, which I fully support. But I wanted to know what you think about the claim that Turley is a born again Christian who is on some sort of religious crusade against the movement and in particular Prabhupada.

[PADA: This is the regular thing that "the devotees" say all the time about their opponents, "oh this guy is really a Christian, oh this guy is really a demon, oh there is a big government conspiracy to go after our 'gurus' like Kirtanananda, Harikesha et al." and so on, especially whenever they are being exposed. And they are in this case: in rampant child abuse. Whether Mr. Turley is a Christian or not, he does understand that the children in the ISKCON schools were treated abominably and he wants to help them, unlike almost cent percent of the rest of "the devotees" who have barely lifted a finger to help these children --all along. And since Mr. Turley has sued the Chrstians and he exposed them like anything, the argument that he attacks only the Krishnas because he defends the Christians shows total ignorance amonst the devotees making this claim? No, he sues the bogus Christians and anyone else who victimizes others?

In other words, what is this "conspiracy" idea? The persons who created "the conspiracy of silence" against the children are "the devotees," not others, and now some of them claim that the efforts to go after some of the perpetrators are part of --a conspiracy-- sort of like the black kettle calling the other kettle black? That is, except that "the devotee's" "code of silence conspiracy" really is a proven conspiracy whereas no one has yet linked Mr. Turley to a conspiracy by the Christian church to "get the Krishnas," nor are we expecting that such "evidence" is forthcoming. Nor are "the Christians" particularly favorable to him since he has sued the pants off of their molester program as well? Which Christians have stepped forward to say they are supporters of Mr. Turley? He will sue the Christians as well. And the Christians are very well aware of this and so they are giving him a medal for suing them? What are people talking about here?

Or worse, many of "the devotees" helped the GBC cover-up this abomination against children and they instead attacked pada's attempts to contain this molester pooja problem? Even Sanat recently showed his disdain for pada by saying that: pada's always talkng about "the molester problem" is what caused of the suit (rather than the molestation itself)? The Dutch boy who had his finger in the dike --while no one heeded him-- caused the subsequent flood? Idiocy. That means he shows contempt for our exposing the problem, read: he would have rather seen it still covered up, as he did for years and years?

Now people are complaining that Mr. Turley would not handle this the same way "a devotee" would. Well, how did "the devotees" and people like Sanat handle this issue all along? They sat on it and failed to take any proper measures to fix it? So agreed, Mr. Turley is not acting like "the devotees," otherwise for starters he would have done little or nothing? So this avoids questions like, "Why was nothing else done by --the devotees-- for so many years"? We are begging millions of other questions here? The real "questions" should be along the lines of, "Why is Mr. Turley, if he is a Christian, having to do the dirty work of 'the devotees,' who think they are more advanced than the Christians? Why has this job fell into the hands of the Christians (?) And does that not mean we have failed to act as bona fide devotees should have acted, and protected the ISKCON children? And if so, should we not be ashamed"?

So the devotees should learn from this, and not make lashing out ad hominen attacks on the exposers, rather than attacking the founders, creators and sustainers of this mayhem. Just like in 1975 (?) the Paris trash department kept writing to the temple to take away their mountains of trash, rats were even attracted and they were coming up the street in broad daylight, yet the devotees failed to act. So later on the Paris city authorities sent in a team and they took out the trash and cleaned up the front area of the temple, and then they charged the temple with a big bill for clean-up. Srila Prabhupada said at that time, just see, if we do not take out our trash, the government will do it for us. So, if we devotees do not prosecute people for mass molestation, someone else might do it? And maybe it will not be done the way we had wanted it done, and indeed it might be very embarassing, costly and put egg on our faces, but we should know that it because of our lethargy that it came to this stage? We can curse at the Paris city for taking away the trash, or we can be humbled and say, "We make a huge error here, and this has created the current crisis."

A similar thing also occured in our town recently. A woman was sent many letters from the county authorities for over 5 years to get rid of her numerous cats in her rural home. She failed to do so, and finally her house smelled terribly even from miles away. So the county sent in four men with gas masks and oxygen tanks and they cleaned out her house themselves. And then the county took away 200 live cat and 50 dead ones. She was selling them by mail order, and most of the living cats were severely ill and so on. Thus, she was embarassed, publicly humilated, fined for tens of thousands of dollars for violating umpteen county ordinances, and the county still has to go in and check the area for potential horrific diseases. She is facing further prosecution for cruelty to animals. She was forced into widespread public shame, and now she is still going to court for her criminally negligent mistreatment of animals. Is her prosecution the fault of the county? Was there a big conspiracy by the government or the anti-cat sector to harass this woman? No. She was wrong and she was caught, thats it.

So, that is what occurs when we let important things like this slide and do not take care of our own business? Thus, that is what is happening now to "the devotees." The court case is a symptom of their lack of action. Yet instead of saying, "well yes, we were wrong, we did not fix this," they are instead still proud and they are saying that the county men who are taking away the cats are part of a big conspiracy to harass the innocent citizens? No, these 'citizens' are not innocent. They failed to act and they failed to do so in SRILA PRABHUPADA'S name, so they also ruined his name as well. That is not Mr. Turley's fault, that is the fault of "the devotees" for their criminally negligent behaviors --and linking their negligence to Srila Prabhupada.

Had "the devotees" curbed the blatant molester pooja and attendant mass abuse and molestation problems many years ago, and/or at least later on sued the GBC themselves, there never would have been a Turley case. Thus, the people who did not pursue the molestation problem, especially despite myself and Sulochana and others pointing it out, are fully to blame for this case. And they are all past or present members of ISKCON. So if there is a big "conspiracy," it is internal. The job of stopping the molester pooja is the function and duty of "the devotees." Clearly they failed to act, and so now it has come to Mr. Turley by default and everyone is griping, nevermind that they did not act to fix this earlier, just like the woman griped that the government took away all of her cats? That is not the government's fault, they are simply reacting. Rather, this is the fault of the negligent party for creating the problems in the first place, i.e. "the devotees."

Frankly, we think that "the devotees" who say "the only reason Mr. Turley accepted the case is to promote his born again Christian ideas" are rather foolish. We doubt very seriously that Mr. Turley has said one word that was not already spoken to him by his clients, the molested children. Nor do we think it would be legal for him to bring forward his own agenda in his cases? And this is also a bit silly because he has sued the Catholic Church and he is hated by many Christians? He is suing the Christian Church, so he is considered by the Church to be the best Christian? No, he is for justice and he will sue the Christians as well as the Krishnas or anyone else who mistreats children. It is not that he is --not also suing the Christians? This is more cult sloganeering and ad hominem rather than looking at the entire picture and history of how this evolved.]

DAS: Is there anything in this do you think? I am not with those who say the case is offensive to Prabhupada. The fools that have run the society for the past twenty years and didn’t care what was going on, because they were too busy building their little empires and the abusers themselves, are the ones that have caused offence. They are the ones that have put Prabhupada's name and movement in jepordy. The children are the victims and deserve everything they get.

I’m with the IRM in that I want to see an end to the corrupt ‘acharya’ system, but think they are misleading devotees by telling them not to support this case. What do you think? I just had an e-mail from an IRM member in response to an essay I wrote and while he agreed with the points I made he lumped the gurukuli’s in with the guru’s, considering them equally against Prabhupada, which quite dismayed me.

I’d be interested to hear your views.

Hari Bol!

[PADA: Well Adri, leader of the IRM, has been the gatekeeper to Mayapura for many years, even up to recently. Many of the Vrindavana molesters came from Mayapura. Bhavananda and Kirtananda were in charge of the schools in India, right in Adri's face, and so on and so forth, thus no wonder Adri is opposed to this case, it really exposes him. He is a real Johnny come lately who was sitting around not doing anything up till very recently. He would be listed as a collaborator and one of the people who supported this if he were living in the USA and he would be legally culpable for the mass molestation, most of which emanated from his doorstep. The IRM is another variation of our other GBC defender pals like Sanat who says he wants chop up the ex-children with a buzz saw and have them eaten by dogs.

They are in denial, big time. Rather amazingly, a woman was yelling at another woman in a recent media story saying that the other woman should be chopped up and fed to the vultures and so on, and she sounded exactly like Sanat and Mukunda, hence people were all thinking this woman was a vile and evil witch. As for Adri, he begs the question, if the crooks were all being supported by him all along, is he upset at their being exposed since the criminal actions might lead to his doorstep? And as soon as we said, let us prove that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned and show that the GBC was not listening to him, and moreover we now have a book of evidence that could be used in court, both Adri and Sanat attacked the book which is the best compilation of evidence for poisoning ever produced and is probably the only type of thing that could be used in a court, and in sum, --they de facto defended the poisoners as well. Birds of a feather. So yes, there is a conspiracy, but it is to protect the GBC and the evil doers, and it has nothing to do with Mr. Turley.

Thanks ys pd]

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3) PETITION FOR CARRYING OUT SRILA PRABHUPADA'S
DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT FOR AN ELECTED GBC

(GOVERNING BOARD COMMISSION OF THE INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS)

WHEREAS, on July 28, 1970, the founder-acarya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada put into a signed managerial directive for ISKCON called the Direction of Management for the GBC ordering the creation of an ad hoc committee from among 12 of his disciples to write the constitution of an elected GBC;

WHEREAS, since then this committee has not acted on his orders, which allowed the GBC to assume a dictatorial (nondemocratic) control over ISKCON members and ISKCON property from immediately after the physical disappearance of Srila Prabhupada in November 1977;

WHEREAS, this negligence of the Direction of Management for the GBC has led to severe deviation from the founding principles of ISKCON which led to the direct suffering of many of its members and their dependent children;

BE IT RESOLVED, that the undersigned petitioners, who are disciples of ISKCON's founder-acarya Srila Prabhupada or grand disciples, hereby petition the GBC for the immediate implementation of Srila Prabhupada's July 28, 1970 Direction of Management for the GBC by ordering the original members of the ad hoc committee he selected therein to write the constitution for a regularly elected GBC as stated in his 1970 Direction of Managmeent for the GBC (included below) which of course would not affect those lifetime GBCs appointed by Srila Prabhupada;

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that this constitution of the GBC will not be subject to any changes from what Srila Prabhupada ordered nor subject to any approval by the GBC and will be completed and submitted to the GBC by December 31, 2000 and be effective immediately upon submission to the GBC with elections to be held during the following year 2001.

Present legal name | Initiated name | Name before initiation | SSN/PIN | Initiating guru | Contact address/info

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SRILA PRABHUPADA'S DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT~GBC

INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY FOR KRISHNA CONSCIOUSNESS, INC. FOUNDER-ACHARYA: HIS DIVINE GRACE A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT

I, the undersigned, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, disciple of Om Visnupada Paramhansa 108 Sri Srimad Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Gosvami Maharaja Prabhupada, came in the United States in 1965 on September 18th for the purpose of starting Krishna Consciousness Movement. For one year I had no shelter. I was travelling in many parts of this country. Then in 1966, July, I incorporated the Society under the name and style the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, briefly ISKCON. The lawyer was Mr. J. Goldsmith. Gradually the Society increased, and one after another branches were opened. Now we have got thirty-four (34) branches enlisted herewith:

As we have increased our volume of activities, now I think a Governing Body Commission (hereinafter referred to as the GBC) should be established. I am getting old, 75 years old, therefore at any time I may be out of the scene, therefore I think it is necessary to give instruction to my disciples how they shall manage the whole institution. They are already managing individual centers represented by one president, one secretary and one treasurer, and in my opinion they are doing nice. But we want still more improvement in the standard of Temple management, propaganda for Krishna Consciousness, distribution of books and literatures, opening of new centers and educating devotees to the right standard. Therefore, I have decided to adopt the following principles and I hope my beloved disciples will kindly accept them.

There was a meeting in San Francisco during the Ratha Yatra festival 1970 and many presidents of the centers were present. In that meeting it was resolved that an ad hoc committee be set up to form the constitution which is taken into consideration. My duty was to first appoint twelve (12) persons to my free choice amongst my disciples and I do it now and their names are as follows:

PARTICULARS OF THE GOVERNING BODY COMMISSION

"The purpose of the Governing Body Commission is to act as the instrument
for the execution of the Will of His Divine Grace. And further,

1. The GBC oversees all operations and management of ISKCON, as it receives
direction from Srila Prabhupada and His Divine Grace has the final approval
in all matters.

2. His Divine Grace will select the initial 12 members of the GBC. In the
succeeding years the GBC will be elected by a vote of all Temple presidents
who will vote for 8 from a ballot of all Temple presidents, which may also
include any secretary who is in charge of a Temple. Those 8 with the
greatest number of votes will be members for the next term of GBC. Srila
Prabhupada will choose to retain four commissioners. In the event of Srila
Prabhupada's absence, the retiring members will decide which four will
remain.

3. The commissioners will serve for a period of 3 years, and they may be
re-elected at the end of this period.

4. The chairman is elected by the GBC for each meeting. He has no veto
power, but in even of a vote tie, his vote will decide. The same will apply
for votes cast by mail between regular meetings.

5. Throughout the year, each of the commissioners will stay with His Divine
Grace for one month at a time and keep the other commissioners informed of
His Divine Grace's instructions.

6. The primary objective of the GBC is to organize the opening of new
Temples and to maintain the established Temples.

7. Advice will be given by the GBC in cases of real property purchases,
which will be in the name of ISKCON, INC. (Trucks or other vehicles will be
purchased in the name of the local president).

8. Removal of a Temple president by the GBC requires support by the local
Temple members.

9. The GBC has no jurisdiction in the publication of manuscripts, which
will be handled by a separate committee; profits to be returned to Srila
Prabhupada." So far my books are concerned, I am setting up a different
body of management known as the BHAKTIVEDANTA BOOK TRUST.

The trustees of this body are also members of the GBC, but their function
is not dependent on the GBC. ISKCON Press was created for the exclusive
publication of my books and literatures and should be continued in that way.

During my absence no one shall live in my apartment.

ACB

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami

Witnessed by:

Date July 28th 1970

(William R. Ehrlichman)
Bhagavan das Adhikary

(Kelly Gifford Smith)
Karandhar das Adhikary

Date July 28th, 1970

At the World Head Quarters
3764, Watseka Avenue
Los Angeles, California 90034

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4) SEATTLE FESTIVAL UPDATE

Hare Krsna Prabhus------ Obeisances All glories to His Divine Grace Srila Prabhupada So once again , Krsna has blessed us with such a nice festival for His Transcendental appearance day as well as His pure devotee Srila Prabhupada. Many devotees came from all over and its good to know that the transcendental grapevine still works by letting others who never came here also know of our whereabouts. On Janmastami day, I was at a Fred Meyer store and the checkout clerk was a young Indian lady and I asked here if she knew what this day was and she said promptly,Its janmastami !! She then asked me if I was fasting?

At which point I knew this was a good candidate to invite to our temple which she knew nothing about-and which in fact ,she and her mother did come. Turned out their family was from the Vrndavana area in India-talk about Krsna's mercy!!!! And that's how the whole two day event went. Everyone was blissful, stuffed with sufficient amounts of prasadam enough to make you wobble, and re-determined and renewed to continue their practice of Krsna Consciousness. Between my wife and I we prepared around 145 offerings for Krsna. Many other devotees also brought opulent preps. My wife made two very beautiful and very opulent matching backdrops for our altars. After I finished bathing and dressing the Deities, Sukadev and I were observing Their obvious beauty, and then I said, "yes, the Deities look beautiful but everything is complete when the temple room is filled with Krsna devotees."

And Prabhupada has commented that the surrendering process is completed by the association of devotees-without which advancement is practically impossible. So when we have these festivals, all the devotees become enlivened by each others association and the Krsna katha which flows. One simple thing is needed to continue these festivals of Krsna Consciousness-and that is that seemingly elusive quality of "co-operation"-without which Prabhupada has stated we have no love for him despite our jargon or rhetoric. Later in the evening, there were so many devotees here who could sing and play instruments nicely, that about 6-7 of them all got opportunities to lead some kirtans/bhajans with the others following along. This is also nice. Not that one person controls the whole program- what is better is if everyone can take part and participate. The next day(Vyasa Puja), as usual, there was a much smaller crowd of devotees for various reasons. But this smaller crowd was not the least any less sweet. We talked for about two hours about Srila Prabhupada and many related various stories about their personal reciprocations with Prabhupada over the years. We offered Prabhupada arotik and puspa puja along with some nice garlands.

Sukadev prabhu who had cooked for Srila Prabhupada when he was TP in Hawaii, again cooked for Prabhupada on this day as he had then-He made rice ,chappatis, dahl-the same way he did then and the way Prabhupada told him was acceptable. So all these activities, chanting ,dancing, cooking and feasting, hearing, etc-these are all nectar and we never tire of them.They are highly powerful spiritual practices which lead one to God Consciousness-and-they are blissful..................

Hari Bol to you all
your humble servant
Damaghosa das
Sri Sri Gaura Nitai Mandir
Seattle Wa

(Oh, by the way, we are buying a country property in about one month-anyone interested in coming?)

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ new ISKCON reform page

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)