RE: PETITION
1) GBC DECLARES SRILA PRABHUPADA IS DEAD!
2) MAHESH WRITES:
3) "LAWYER MEANS LIAR"
4) ABOUT PISHIMA LETTER

Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

[PADA is an online newsletter going out to over 1,000 devotees and Hindu's. Please let us know if you have comments, or if you are not interested. We try our best to keep our mailing list in order. Jai Srila Prabhupada!]

Please let us know if you wish to add other addresses or cancel your subscription. PADA also may or may not endorse all of the statements found in our featured letters.

ALSO the names of the GBC as well as accounts of their activities are sometimes unverified at this point, we are merely allowing readers to express their experiences, and we encourage others, including those named, to feedback. Comments / corrections on the history section are also encouraged...

RE: PETITION

Thanks for getting the word out on the petition. Do you think the wording of the petition is effective and clear? Also please send me whatever info on the status and whereabouts of the 12 godbrothers Srila Prabhupada named in the DOM. As you know more than me on the whereabouts of direct disciples of Srila Prabhupada who might want to assist in gathering signatures around the world, please also suggest some names of godbrothers/sisters in the cities with where devotees congregate. If there are enough signature gatherers I will send out hard copies of the petition to them to be photo copied as needed.

- Harinamdas

================================

1) GBC DECLARES SRILA PRABHUPADA IS DEAD!

Front Page ---- Asian Age news. 24th July, 2000.
Iskcon: What are we to do with Ritvikism?
By Dhiman Chattopadhyay and Kounteya Sinha

Calcutta, July 23 On the defensive for months after the sex abuse scandal rocked their world, authorities at the Iskcon Mayapur Ashram have now struck back with a vengeance at their Calcutta counterparts, the Iskcon Revival Movement. The Mayapur general manager has ridiculed the revival movement president's doctrine of "Ritvikism" calling it "a strange and concocted idea".

In a signed statement issued to all Krishna bhaktas around the world, Mayapur general manager Dham Nitai Prasad Dasa has accused revival movement president Adridharana Dasa of "behaving in a deviant manner" and unleashing an onslaught of false, offensive, and derogatory publicity". Mr Adridharana Dasa is propagating a delusive doctrine known as Ritvikism, where he believes that all devotees wanting to receive diksha within Iskcon should still receive it from founder - acharya of Iskcon, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, Srila Prabhupada, and become his direct disciples, in spite of *** him being dead for the last 23 years ***," the letter says.

================================

2) MAHESH WRITES:

Nara-narayana Visvakarma prabhu wrote: Now, the Turley case indicates that we are willing to BURN THE SHIP TO ASHES in order to RID IT OF RATS!.....Then we claim that we will have sufficient EMPOWERMENT to go on and REBUILD THE MOVEMENT ANEW! MY COMMENT? "If you cannot clean your room, then why imagine that you can rebuild your whole house which you have burned down to remove the mess from your room? Only a complete fool thinks that it is easier to build a house than to clean a room!"

MRD: Okay prabhu NOW that you have assessed the problem PLEASE---- provide *THE SOLUTION.* You said they disobeyed the direction of management left by Srila Prabhupada. This is crying over spilt milk--it is *NOT* a solution in itself.

[PADA: Good point. How does NNV propose to --force-- the GBC to follow "The Direction Of Management"? NNV was no small amount of upset with pada when we asked this question before, he said we were ignoring that directive? No we were not, we just did not see how they could be forced to follow it? And we were right, a few years have passed, and they are not getting any closer to following it now --just as we predicted? They will not follow anything unless they have to, that was our point before and it still stands today. They never will follow, unless there is a court case to force the issue. Neither will they care a fig for others writings and so on, unless and until these folks can produce a solid court case. Even in 1986 Sulochana said he was not going to be taken seriously by the GBC either for the same reasons, thus he wanted to launch a class action lawsuit. Indeed, the gurus still have their Beverly Hills houses and big cars and they do not really care what anyone says on the internet, although it might give them a nuisance factor. Hence, folks like Adri have gone to court as well, since they also realized that is the only effective manner to take them on.]

MRD: We already KNOW this GBC demoniac thugs are ATHIESTS. With all due respect to Harimnama prabhu -- but your petition to this demoniac GBC is -- a TOTAL waste of time and energy. These godless hogs dogs camels and asses rejected Srila Prabhupada -- they are ENVIOUS of his position as Jagad diksa Guru. They only love MONEY. So these evil gangesters will NEVER accept the direction of management left by Srila Prabhupada.

[PADA: Ditto.]

MRD: I have no particular liking for the Turley case either since -- I see it is much like a concern of money, who gets what after getting it from Iskcon -- neither do I agree to the blaspheme of Srila Prabhupada which is going to take place in the court. Blaspheme of Srila Prabhupada has been conducted for last 23 years by these evil godless athiests GBC gundas who pretended to be gurus and also butchering Srila Prabhupada's books by Jayadvaita , Darvida and company.

One thing the Turley courts case will do -- I hope -- is to DRAIN these dangerous animals from printing slaughtered version of Srila Prabhupada's books. It is ONLY this reason -- I feel the court case will have the BIGGEST IMPACT. Besides this--let us take a look through the eyes of the scriptures what is to happen to those who insulted Srila Prabhupada. Its often said history repeats itself -- Antya 3.159 thru to Antya 3.164, particularly OBSERVE -- HOW the offender SUFFERS from this incident.

We can conclude therefore, the athiestic GBC gundas have now to bear the fruits of their karma in a similar way. Perhaps? The Turley case -- is instrumental to bring about this resultant reaction of GBC gundas -- about to fructify their offenses of insulting Srila Prabhupada.

Antya 3.151 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura. When the Durga-mandapa and courtyard were filled with crowds of men, Ramacandra Khan, who was inside the house, sent his servant to Lord Nityananda. PURPORT. In those days, and also even now, the palatial buildings of respectable people, especially in the villages of Bengal, were divided into two parts. The inside part was especially meant for the family, and the ladies would live there unexposed to men. That part was called the bhitara-badi, or inside house. In the outside house, or bahir-badi, the respectable gentleman received visitors and kept his business office. The Durga-mandapa would be part of the outside house. Thus when Lord Nityananda entered the outside house, Ramacandra Khan was in the inside house with the members of his family. When Nityananda Prabhu arrived, Ramacandra Khan did not receive Him personally but sent his servant to inform Him indirectly to go away.

Antya 3.152 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura The servant informed Lord Nityananda, "My dear sir, Ramacandra Khan has sent me to accommodate You in some common man's house.

Antya 3.153 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura "You might go to the house of a milkman, for the cow shed is spacious, whereas the space here in the Durga-mandapa is insufficient because You have many followers with You."

Antya 3.154 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura When Nityananda Prabhu heard this order from the servant of Ramacandra Khan, He became very angry and came out. Laughing very loudly, He spoke as follows.

Antya 3.155 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura "Ramacandra Khan has spoken rightly. This place is unfit for Me. It is fit for cow-killing meateaters."

Antya 3.156 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura Having said this, Lord Nityananda stood up and left in an angry mood. To chastise Ramacandra Khan, He did not even stay in that village.

Antya 3.157 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura Ramacandra Khan ordered the servant to dig up the dirt in the place where Nityananda Prabhu had sat.

Antya 3.158 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura To purify the Durga-mandapa temple and the courtyard, Ramacandra Khan sprinkled and smeared it with water mixed with cow dung, but still his mind was unsatisfied.

Antya 3.159 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura Ramacandra Khan's business was questionable, for he tried to avoid paying income tax to the government. Therefore the government's minister of finance was angry and came to his residence.

Antya 3.160 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura The Mohammedan minister made his residence in the Durga-mandapa of Ramacandra Khan. He killed a cow and cooked the meat at that very place.

Antya 3.161 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura He arrested Ramacandra Khan, along with his wife and sons, and then he continuously plundered the house and village for three days.

Antya 3.162 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura In that very room he cooked the flesh of a cow for three consecutive days. Then the next day he left, accompanied by his followers.

Antya 3.163 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura The Mohammedan minister took away Ramacandra Khan's position, wealth and followers. For many days the village remained deserted.

Antya 3.164 The Glories of Srila Haridasa Thakura WHEREVER AN ADVANCED DEVOTEE IS INSULTED, FOR ONE MAN'S FAULT THE ENTIRE TOWN OR PLACE IS AFFLICTED.

ys mahesh

=====================

3) "LAWYER MEANS LIAR"

Ramesvara: I heard that you once said, "Lawyer means liar."
Prabhupada: Yes. (laughs)

(S.P. Room Conversation January 21, 1977, Bhubaneswar)

"I can bear any heavy thing except a person who is a liar."

[PADA: That is correct. Well, we are sorry to say this but we have documented evidence that Sanat was supporting the GBC's homosexual pedophile guru system all along while the molestation was at its peak. He even admits in his last writing that "he was just trying to get on with his life" when heard about the molestations, read: he put his head in the sand. And he has not even apologized to the gurukulis for his self-admitted retraction of help. And his wife Linda told us directly that she was a teacher in the GBC/ SDG school, and that all of the children in her school were molested, and that she and others did not properly respond to that. As for Sanat's death threats etc., we have them compiled them and we have evidence of his calling Srila Prabhupada an advocate of chopping up with buzz saws: various devotees, lawyers, Federal witnesses and court authorities, molested children, and so on, and feeding them to dogs, which by the way is worse than the rantings of Kirtanananda and Ramesvara.

Indeed one devotee says Sanat sounds identical to Idi Amin, a guy who also advocated chopping folks up. As for both of you sitting in your bunkers waiting for WW III, and hoping it comes soon, Srila Prabhupada says that these atomic bombs are demoniac, and those who wish to use them are demons. Ummmm, like you and Sanat?

So let Sanat and his wife go to the courts and explain why they sat on this problem and did nothing? And later Sanat wrote a huge tome on --the cows-- but did not focus on the grevious molestation problem, which he now admits he knew about early on, in 1983? So, if there are some liars, it is Mukunda/ Sanat. And if our facts are incorrect, let us know what is wrong, since others have confirmed that Linda said that to them as well. In other words, we have other witnesses to support our claims, whereas Mukunda has not forwarded anyone to support his claim that we are liars? Moreover, Sanat himself just admitted that he was just trying to get on with being Mr. Forgetful in 1983, while the crimes were in progress? So we are not liars, we are repeating what Mr. Sanat himself and Linda have stated. Thanks pd]

===============================

4) ABOUT PISHIMA LETTER

Dear Dinadayadri prabhu and other devotees,

Hare Krsna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Please accept my fallen obeisances.

I happened to find this post on the VNN forums, and I felt I should send it in since you have sent this letter. For me as an indidual, I believe in the POSSIBILITY that Anon Amos's letter could be true. (That does not mean though that I am saying that I believe it is true or not true; I don't know.) At any rate, I found this post on the VNN forum, and I felt that I should send it in:

Satyahit prabhu is living in the area from which the post was written. This particular post in the VNN forums was put up by Pratyatosh prabhu.

I remain your servant,

Mahavegavati Dasi Hare Krsna

posted 08-23-2000 04:02 PM
---------------------------------
Another witness:
Forum: alt.religion.vaisnava
Subject: Re: Appalling and amazing arrogance
Date: 08/20/2000
Author: Ron & Keli Conroy

For what it's worth in a phony democratic society of so called voters, Anon Amos is acepted by Satyahit das & Kelilallita dd as an authentic lady devotee who had past association with Srila Prabhupada's sister, Pishima, who told this devotee that Srila Prabhupada was being poisoned to death. I do not understand why this info did not come out in 1977,78,79,80,81 etc,or 87,or 97...but then there are many things I do not understand..

Satyahit das

===========================

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ new ISKCON reform page

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)