PADA and TV SHOW
1) Sudarsana writes
2) ABOUT WW III
3) AUSTRALIA UPDATE

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PADA and TV SHOW

PADA has been invited to help with a television show production regarding the Windle Turley case. Some of the ex-children have already been contacted and interviewed by the show. They wanted us to openly advertise for either ex-gurukulis or GBC who wanted to be on the show to write to pada for details if anyone is interested in participation. Also, persons outside who know about the problems might also be able to contribute. As the show operators said, the public will probably be able to figure out who is right. We agree.

thanks pd

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Dear PADA Hare Krsna

Does anybody know yet the date, or approximate, when this case is to be heard in court? Thanks.

[PADA: Right now they probably have to gather depositions from victims and the GBC, and that takes a while. Simultaneously, some new folks are talking about joining which has to be processed. So we will hear something, perhaps like another press release, when things are more ready, thanks pd]

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1) Sudarsana writes

DEAR PURANJANA PRABHU, PAMHO. ALL GLORIES TO SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD SRILA PRABHUPADA. I WAS OFF-LINE DUE TO A VERY BUSY BUSINESS SCHEDULE, AND ALSO DISCOURAGED TO NOT SEE UNITY AMONG THE REFORM DEVOTEES. AS RADHA KRSNA PRABHU OF MEXICO SAYS----"WE NEED TO PULL OURSELVES TOGETHER "----.

I WAS FORTUNATE TO SET UP A SEPERATE INVESTMENT, WHERE BY THE PROFITS WILL GO TO THE IRM COURT CASE, TO MAKE SURE THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA MUST BE RESTORED AS THE DIKSA GURU, IN HIS ISKCON.ALTHOUGH I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THE IRM AND DO NOT SPEAK FOR THEM, I FULLY AGREE WITH THEIR FOCUSING ON THE SOLUTION OF RESTORING SRILA PRABHUPADA AS THE SOLE DIKSA GURU FOR THE NEXT 10,000 YEARS, AND STAY CLEAR OF CONSPIRACY THEORIES.

CONSPIRACY THEORIES IS YOUR JOB, AND FROM THE DAY THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS GIVING YOU YOUR NAME, THIS IS THE SERVICE THAT HE WANTED YOU TO DO FOR HIM. AS NAVA YOGENDRA SWAMI SAID----"YOU ARE A REAL SOLDIER FOR SRILA PRABHUPADA!!!!" WHO IS THIS SANAT???? TELL HIM THAT I SAY THESE ACCUSATIONS WILL BOUNCE BACK TO HIM.

AS FAR AS THIS GURU KULA CASE ,IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT ONE CLAUSE IS BLAMING SRILA PRABHUPADA. THESE GUYS DEVIATED, KICKED OUT YASODANANDA PRABHU AND DR. SHARMA, PUT BHAVANANDA AS TEACHER TO INTENTIONALLY DESTROY THESE CHILDREN, BECAUSE MANY WERE INITIATED BY PRABHUPADA, AND WAS AUTOMATICALLY THESE "SO-CALLED ACARYAS" GOD-BROTHERS. THIS WAS AN OBSTICLE TO THE HOAX THAT THEY WERE EMPOWERED ACARYAS, WHEN THEY WERE WEARING THESE "PADS" TO THE END OF THEIR NAMES.

THESE FORMER CHILDREN MUST GET THE FACTS THAT PRABHUPADA WAS HI-JACKED WITH HIS MISSION, AND THE ENTIRE CASE TURN ON ALL THE GBC'S AND TEACH THEM A LESSON FOR LIFE. AND SET AN EXAMPLE FOR ALL THE WAITING OPPORTUNISTS, WHO WANTS TO EXPLOIT PRABHUPADA AND HIS ASSETS. RAGHUNATHA ANUDASA , AS AN ABUSED EX- GURUKULA, IS NICELY GLORIFYING SRILA PRABHUPADA, CLEARLY STATING THAT ISKCON WAS HI-JACKED FROM PRABHUPADA IN BOTH INTENT AND CONTROL AND THEREFORE THE CORRUPTION WAS OF THE GBC MAKING, NOT PRABHUPADA!!!!

IT IS GREAT THAT PEOPLE LIKE BHAKTI VIKASA SWAMI IS SPEAKING OUT. MANY MORE WILL SPEAK OUT, WHEN THE COURT EMPOWERS THEM TO DO SO. THE DAY IS VERY CLOSE WHEN ONE CAN SPEAK OUT, AND CANNOT BE BANNED. BECAUSE THIS MOVEMENT HAVE TOO MANY OPPORTUNISTS AND SO-CALLED SADHUS, ALL THIS ABUSE WENT UN-CHECKED. YOU AND SULOCHANA PRABHU SPOKE WHEN NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO SPEAK. CREDIT MUST BE WHERE IT IS DESERVED. MAY SRILA PRABHUPADA ALWAYS SHOWER HIS BLESSINGS ON YOU.

AND I CLEARLY STATE THAT IF ANYONE HAD A HOMO-SEX ACT WITH MY SON, IN THE GURUKULA, I WOULD HAVE PERSONALLY CASTRATED THAT BITCH!!!! YOUR INSIGNIFICANT SERVANT, IN THE SERVICE OF, SRILA PRABHUPADA.

SUDARSHAN DASA

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2) ABOUT WW III

Mukunda keeps recycling his points that Srila Prabhuada had once said that there MIGHT be a world war between Russia and the USA. OK, agreed. We never disputed that. But, Srila Prabhupada also said: there may NOT be such a world war. What about those quotes? He also said we should NOT worry whether there will be a war or not. What about those quotes? He also said that we should NOT wish for a war, since there will be so much suffering. What about those quotes? He also said such an action is in the hands of Krishna and NOT us. What about those quotes? He also said that using such weapons and desiring to use such weapons is demoniac, NOT for devotees, what about those quotes?

So Mukunda simply recylces the same few quotes that Harikesha, Ramesvara and others recycled in the 80s, out of context, in the same manner as those guys did then. And when we point that out, he simply recycles them again like a cult robot, and he still insists that devotees should desire WW III as a good thing, nevermind that Srila Prabhupada said that creating such weapons is for demons not devotees?

Apart from that, most people do not think Russia wants a war with the USA right now either, the way they used to. For example, Poland gets 8 billion in foreign investment while Russia only gets 2-3. That is the reason the Russian military is dwindling. Their navy has only got one working aircraft carrier, some very leaky subs with questionable maintenance, outdated weapons and so on. They know they are not in a good position to launch a big war right now. As one navy expert said recently, the Russian navymen's biggest threat right now is from his own machinery falling apart. This is Krishna's and Srila Prabhupada's mercy for us?

And this problem extends into the other Russian military services. Recently, a group of angry farmers took over a Russian sub because the Navy had refused to pay for ten years of potatoes. They removed the sub's weapons and filled the sub with potatoes and ran it to Siberia to sell their potatoes. The military did not stop it because they were to embarassed. This was recently reported by George Will. And some of the Russian leaders are also admitting they are no longer a superpower. Apart from that, the Soviet Union has divested itself and Poland is now a member of NATO? The Ukraine said their missles are not part of Russia's. Things have changed.

So, Srila Prabhupada said that there MIGHT be a war between Russia and the USA, but it seems Russia's war machinery is out of date now and cannot even be maintained? How will they want to start a war, even from a practical point? So, that is also Krishna working to keep nuclear peace for the moment at least. Why can't Krishna avoid that type of war? He can and He has. Why are we saying He should start this Russia v. USA kind of war now? Are we the boss of God? Last time we checked, the neigbor's cat could give a damn when we ordered it off the roof, so the cat is not taking our orders, but God will? Major stupidity.

So to go on with this Harikesha style of out of context Russia v. USA nuclear thing looks very silly at this point, since it seems that since Russia needs a reported one trillion dollars to get its military up to the old standard, and they are getting less and less and not more money, and they are scrapping boats, subs, planes, trucks, tanks and missles because they cannot maintain them. So to go around saying "Srila Prabhupada is warning us of the Russia v. USA nuclear thing" at this point makes it look out of touch. Better to say, Srila Prabhupada said there might be a war, but there was not, so thanks to his efforts there was no war? Why not give Srila Prabhupada some credit for a change?

And this evades the real point. What we said is that for Sanat to scramble to Angelica with WW III dried food supplies and hide in a bunker hoping that Russia will attack with nuclear devices is not what Srila Prabhupada wanted his followers to do. Nor did Sanat ever even apologize for his role in creating this molester empire?

And Sanat says that his "best friend" Rasal could not help us because he is a pot smoker. At the same time Sanat says his best friend Rasal, while duly married, was out having an affair making another woman pregnant? So let us get this correct, the guys who have been out there supporting molester pooja and having a pot smoker's womanizing club are going to order Goddess Kali to make Russia start bombing the USA? These clowns could not get Goddess Kali to fix their broken shoelaces, what to speak of get her to start a war using their barking dog speaking at mother Kali like they do?

"Kali must chop this head off, Kali must bomb that," bark, bark, bark, hello, you are not even Goddess Kali's micro-bug on a termite on her planet? And you can bark orders at her like that? And no wonder, Sanat told us he is looking at the Jesus' fanatics doomsday cult websites all the time, and he used to send us updates on how the end is near, according to them, and he was taking them seriously. "Devil is gonna make hell fire"! That "Devil" has identifed himself, it is Sanat, he talks hell fire exactly like the websites he visits.

Sanat also says that Nirmal is having sex with animals, simultaneously, he says that Nirmal cannot have sex at all from paralysis. That mean he is making up lies. So, mother Kali hates liars like Mr. Sanat who make up lies to inflame Nirmal. Then, Sanat wonders why Nirmal is so upset? Well, because of fools making up lies and saying "I have ordered Goddess Kali to chop your head off if you think I am a liar," meanwhile, here are some more of my lies. These Mukunda Sanat guys are barking orders like dogs, even at Goddess Kali, making up contradictions, and then they wonder why their victims turn against Krishna consciousnes? Well, because of fools misrepresenting it -- like them.

ys pd

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3) AUSTRALIA UPDATE

Dear PADA pamho agtSP

We were impressed by your response to the WW III article. How amazing it is, that 'older' devotees like Sanat and Mukunda can ooze such drivel. It reveals a Jekyll/Hyde persona, common to criminals, not sadhus. Where there is no compassion; sastric dissemination is impossible. However, it comes as no surprise. Those who support a regime of poisoners, goondas and gandoos (butt wallahs), are bound by the laws of association to eternal schizophrenia.

This fact is demonstrated daily within the shrouded arena of the isKcon cult. We would advise S&M to exercise regularly. By bending down and touching their toes; they will get a clearer view of where they are talking from. This may shut them up, and clear the air. On a lighter note: (1) Devotees stood around the kitchen. Someone had asked Srila Prabhupada if he would teach them how to spice a subji, He said he would. After an hour of waiting, HDG came downstairs and entered the Deity Kitchen. As usual; He was glowing and immaculate. Fresh tilaka, fresh cloth, and the sweet smell of His presence; mellowed the pungent kitchen odours of hing and turmeric. When all was in order, HDG began cooking.

Devotees watched fascinated as He used clean and deft skills to prepare the offering. Then, quite unexpectedly; SP cleared his throat and spat into the Deity Sink. Jaws fell open in bewilderment. Slowly, He turned and looked into the faces of his uncertain students. "Don't ever do like this," he instructed, and calmly returned to His cooking. (2) Sanganatha dasa was not yet initiated. He had heard of the sadhu from India, and wanted very much to meet with Him. So he made the journey to Melbourne Mahaprabhu Mandir, where HDG was staying for a few days. Arriving late (almost the mid-day offering), he got no response from buzzing the front door, so he went around the back. He found the little cut-away in the back gate; open.

Bending down and slipping through the narrow opening, he made his way across the parking lot and through the garden gate. When he started along the walkway to the mandir, the unmistakable smell of 'Indian cooking', sent his senses reeling. To his immediate right, was the kitchen of Sri Sri Gaura Nitai. The window was open, and there, right before his eyes, on the windowsill, was a plate stacked high with hot chapatis. Sanganatha das was not a thief, but he admits to being overcome with lust. Stepping on flower-bushes, carefully planted for HDG's pleasure, he reached out to steal the steaming hot chapatis. Just as his fingers were about to grasp the treasure; a lotus hand with a gold watch on its wrist, appeared from behind the kitchen wall and smacked him on the fingers. Sanganatha dasa looked up in surprise, it was Srila Prabhupada. "Don't steal Deity chapatis," He instructed, waving His index finger back and forth in the bhakta's face.

Dandavats & pranams. ------- d and dd

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ new ISKCON reform page

Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
* http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg

* PRABHUPADANUGA'S:
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* http://iskcontimeline.homepage.com Nandini's history site
* http://www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
* http://www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site

* http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ (Pada's Newsletter Archive)
* http://www.krishna.org/ (S.P. REAL AUDIO download)
* http://members.xoom.com/manvantar/index.htm (Sulochana's Homepage) 
* http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
* http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html (Puranjana's Site)

* POISON TAPE audio and pada newsletters: 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 
* POISON TRANSCRIPT 
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm 

* http://www.winink.com/tkg/  (Tamal Krishna)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc   (GBC expose)
* gbc_108@hotmail.com  (e-mail)

* http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html  (FRENCH)
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/anubhavananda.html  
* http://members.aol.com/gauridas (Gauridasa Pandita Dasa)
* http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/5708/  (SPANISH)
* http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm)  (Cyber gurukula)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/  (Rocana's site)
* http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm  (Poison issue)
* Vipramukhya and Jayadvaita's "illicit sex guru" rationalizations
* http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm  [appointment tape fraud]
* http://www.gaura-nitai.net Gaura-Nitais Homepage Deutsch

* ISKCON WOMEN-PRABHUPADA'S TIME (by Jyotirmayi Devi Dasi)
* Polygamy In The Hare Krishna Movement (Pritha's Page)