1) SOMEONE SAID (pada)
2) MINDLESS MUSHROOMS
3) KHSATRIIYAS NEEDED

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1) SOMEONE SAID

SRILA PRABHUPADA: Someone said that someone gave me poison. It is possible.

PADA: Here Srila Prabhupada openly states that he thinks his numerous and multifarious "health problems" may have their roots in the influence of malefic, chronic poisoning. Maybe he is not really supposed to be this "sick" at all? Maybe he is "sick" due to a hidden cause? "Yes, maybe someone is giving me poison, and that is why I am so ill? It is possible." In other words, what he is really saying here is: "Someone says that someone is trying to murder me. It is possible." This means he is revealing that he has no real confidence in his "trusted servants," those who are "taking care of him" and indeed, he thinks there is, quite possibly, a plot afoot to murder him.

And this is perhaps why Srila Prabhupada said "no more medicines, no more doctors," because none of these "medicines or doctors" were working. Nor could or would they work if one is being given poison. No "cure" for poison is available, other than finding the culprits in time and trying to reverse the effects as much as one can. Even the kaviraja (doctor) was baffled. He said, the general health is good, heart rate is good, pulse is good, yet something is still ...very, very wrong? What could it be?

Srila Prabhupada's body is incredibly sick for no easily discovered cause? What is the cause? Later the kaviraja is very frustrated because he knows that Srila Prabhupada knows more than he is revealing, so the kaviraja says, "boliye, boliye" (tell us what is the REAL problem)." Srila Prabhupada then finally says, someone is giving me poison. Yet he is reluctant to bring this up? Why? This is always a mystery with great devotees. They are sometimes harassed, beaten, tortured, crucified and killed, but yet they are often reluctant to take major actions to save themselves? That is because the pure devotee has sacrificed his mind, body and words to the service of the Supreme Lord. And he is not attached to his own body or material position. Of course, woe unto those who misuse the surrendered attitude of the pure devotee.

In 1970, some leaders locked Srila Prabhupada up in a room and they were not going to let him out unless he agreed to let them take over. Srila Prabhupada responded that he was only going to eat one spoonful of honey a day, and thus his prison guards had to let him out or he would have died. Thus, attempts to take over were already going on. So now Srila Prabhupada is just saying, there may be yet another plot, this time to murder me, it is possible. He has no confidence in his leaders, and worse, he feels there is a betrayal and Judas element afoot. There may indeed be a plot to kill him in motion.

Srila Prabhupada says that his guru, Srila Saraswati Thakura, had left the planet untimely in 1936. He would have lived for many more years but he left the planet in disgust says Srila Prabhupada. He was disgusted because his leaders were sitting like vultures waiting for him to pass away, so they could take over the assets of the mission. Srila Saraswati Thakura thus could have fought against those envious and materially motived leaders and drove them out, and saved himself and lived longer. No. He did not fight, rather he thought, if they want the bricks and stones let them take them. They will never get love of God, but they will have some bricks and stones, and since that is what they want, so be it.

Just like Krishna fulfills the desires of His devotees, so also the pure devotee may allow his motivated leaders to grab the bricks and stones of his mission. Oh, you want to be worshipped as the sum total of the demigods? You want your picture on a big marble altar in a big marble building? Ok, try it out and see how long you last. You will go down, that's all. And your bricks and stones empire will collapse around you, and topple on your heads. Your bricks and stones will bury you. And after you are buried, the people of the world will villify you and rejoice and sing the songs of happiness at your departure, just like they are happy when a deadly snake is killed in the nearby forest.

This is quite fitting since the medical symbol for arsenic containers used to be a coiled snake, ready to strike. And we also had a very vivid dream of your GBC party in the room with Srila Prabhupada, and you had the body of a huge poison snake, which could barely even squeeze into the doorway. And thus Srila Prabhupada calls your false guru sabhas, like the Gaudiya Matha's, ferocious snakes. Sarpas. And in the dream you were very angry at pada, hissing with venom spitting, but it was no use and you knew it because the cat was and is out of the bag. To kill pada at this point would simply verify the sarpa nature, that is all. It would simply convince people all the more that we are right.

And Srila Prabhupada was thus not really too worried because he knew that your bricks and stones empire would collapse on your heads. He knew that the sarpa snakes sabha would be exposed in time. "Yeh sab friends." He knew that is was merely a question of time, time I am, destroyer of the worlds (and bogus sarpa enterprises). And so it shall come to pass that the sarpa party will be exposed, shunned, villified and finally cursed by one and all, along with all of their supporters and hangers-on.

thanks pada

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2) MINDLESS MUSHROOMS

Dear PADA pamho agtSP

"Watch out!!" we cry to the mindless mushrooms in the iskcon garden. "Your "gurus" have lifted their cloth, undone their kaupins, and gone into a crouch yet again. Get ready to be crapped on. Big time. But we know that you little mushies have had tons of excrement evacuated on you within the last twenty - three years. And that you will eat any crap fed to you by your gbc 'gurus,' so long as it's flavored with enough farting - salt - philosophy to make it digestible.

Well, all of you dear little fungi are about to have your umpteenth meal of gourmet, gbc-flavoured-faeces. And here's what it is. Now keep your digestive juices under control. Remember; this is gbc maha-prasada, so seva it. No woofing!" The recent IRM newsletter has confirmed what this writer reported on PADA seven months ago... (PADA March 8, 2000- "GBC INTRODUCES NEW REDNECK LEADERSHIP PROGRAM ...(real reason behind the wave of resignations). IRMs' newsletter exposes a clandestine meeting that took place over three days (Sept-14th, 15th, &16th) in Detroit. The "meeting" was comprised of selected "grhasta devotees" from around the world (we would like to know ...who selected them?) and was chaired by Rabidindra Screwup (or was it Rabbitinahat ?

Anyways, it was something to do with rabbit (ears) or rabid). Toxic oozings from this "secret" conclave have been analyzed as a gbc escape route to pre-prepared fox-holes beyond the sniping range of opposition. The bunkers are outfitted with strings attached to the grhasta puppets who will lift their cloth, undo their kaupins and crouch in a carbon-copy of their predecessors.

For those readers who find the mental trails of this writer un-trekkable; we shall spell it out:- "The GBC plans to resign, and in their place, selected grhasta devotee (selected by them and theirs) will oversee what is left of iskcon." Even though the "leak" claims this venture to be no more than a proposal in its infancy, we can assure devotees; the matter has already been colloquially resolved, and the reality of this artifice will be made public at the 2001 Mayapur coven. Our report, posted on PADA seven months ago expresses our own view on this ruse in a way that is pertinent to our present feelings. With folded palms, we request PADA readers to indulge us as we re-present this short article (two paragraphs) for perusal.

"(Watch the birdie). Recently a devotee friend (still being milked by iskcon) paid me a visit (before the Mayapur festival). He let- slip that the iskcon gbc were planning a strategical maneuver. The plan is a simple one, but the consequences are calculated to leave iskcons' (gbc) opposition treading water for quite awhile. Yes! (if you have not already suspected it) THE GBC ARE ABOUT TO RESIGN! In their place, wooden dolls (kastira putuli) will be installed. These dolls taken from the loyal grhasta community, will act as dummy targets while their string pullers (sutra dharas) drop out of sight and practice ventriloquism.

Adversaries will be compelled to deal with iskcon rednecks (who as TP's were gbc hatchet-men, causing most of the carnage at grass-roots level), while the faceless (and gutless) gbc hideaway in their havens, milk their disciples and project an image of bankruptcy, unaccountability and denial. Maybe now, your readers will understand the truth behind the gbc resignations. And when the white- robed gbc clones take over; maybe they will understand why a magician uses white birds to project his illusions. Watch the birdie." (end of article)

So, is this a paradigm shift in iskcon management? Is this an end to the tragedy of errors? Are these "leaders" about to stop milking iskcon and get jobs to maintain themselves? NO!! Of COURSE NOT!! What is going down here is mushroom fertilizer and that's all. (1) There is no mention of returning Srila Prabhupadas' disciples. (2) There is no mention of ritvik initiations. (3) There is no mention of the Direction For Management. (4) There is no admittance to the demonology practiced under the guise of spirituality. (5) No declaration of "hidden bank accounts," "assets" as promised at the last Mayapur coven (6) They are still collecting daksina, even after declaring that they would not. (6) They still maintain their "signatories" position on all of Srila Prabhupadas' properties. (7) And the "selected grhastas" chosen for the job, will be none other than their very own disciples and hatchet-men. Those who have already accepted the "demise" of Srila Prabhupada and the stool of demons to be the absolute truth, will make up the remaining (selected grhasta) gbc coven.

When next the coven meets sniffing under each others' tail to see who's in season; faithful TPs' will be given their (reward) bone for (1) arranging 'sannayas stipends' (2) accommodation (3) servants (4) luncheons and donations (5) forums to placate their leadership erections (5) travel itineraries (6) tax-ex deals (7) honey producing disciples. etc.etc.etc This writer has put forward many articles (some too heavy for publication ha! ha!), magnifying middle-management as the soup-kitchen for the iskcon gravy-train. And we have pointed out the need to do away with this office- for-life as a necessity for all-round sanity. If we cut here, the dance of the demons is finished. Anyways, when the darkness comes, these blue-jackals will howl, revealing themselves to be what they truly are. And we'll be there. Both barrels loaded.

Dandavats & pranams SGd

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3) KHSATRIIYAS NEEDED

Hare Krsna, all glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I offer for your edification that the Ksatriya is the most misunderstood of the four varnas by our ISKCON brethren. First of all he is neglected by disallowing his very existence, saying that everyone is sudra, Oh but put a piece of string on a person and they will all claim to be brahman.

What kind of brahman attempts to kill his spiritual master by poison or by neglect of the proper siddhanta delineated by Him? What kind of brahman judges a devotee by his bank balance and calls any devotee on public assistance no good? What kind of brahmin picks up hookers on highway 441? What kind of brahmin sells his brahminical services instead of accepting whatever donations that come of their own accord? What kind of brahmin promotes warship of demigods in an ISKCON temple Are these examples of a vaisnava brahman? NO!

And if the ksatriya reacts with anger is he dysfunctional? NO! His natural inclination to protect the society at large has been aroused and that anger becomes divine as much as a brahman ritvic attending to the sacrificial fire or a vaisha making a good money making deal or the sudra being diligent to the three higher classes by a submissive and a corporative spirit.

Although the members of ISKCON have done there level best to quell, disturb and squash the ksatriya varna, it lives like a brahmastra in my heart and does not depend on any of you for approval, my spiritual master has given sanction and all must bow to His wishes. Myself and others like me are as much ksatriya as anyone can claim the other three varnas and to take our service is a great sin.

There was never a complaint when we stood down the employees at LAX that were destroying books left and right, nor was there a complaint when we when to jail for assault in the protection of these same women. But ask, from the so-called brahman, for your proper service and the answer is the same, there are no ksatriyas. The antiquated idea that there are no ksatriyas was not there when we, only four of us, stood our ground against twenty, in San Diego for the protection of the women in the temple, from the surfer gangs on Mission Beach. So now where is our service as managers? Oh, taken by the monkeys with string on there necks posing as brahminas, the usurpers and poisoner of my spiritual movement and Master. All condemnation to the digressive, irresolute rogues in the dress of devotees and those who haven't the mental equilibrium to recognize a lie from the truth.

This thinking that all ksatriyas are some sort of gundas is also crap. The difference between a ksatriya and a gunda, is that the gunda as a mindless sudra hasn't the intelligence to make decisions as to time, place and circumstance. In other words he does not poses the presents of mind enough to know when to act, how much force to apply, nor who that force is applicable to. His position is that of the sudra helper to the qualified ksatriya. In many cases, the older ksatriyas that would not go along with the deviant propaganda against them have been relegated to the outside of society to languish in a sort of abuse that is perpetrated on them by the rest of devotee society, told that they are useless fanatics that have no place in devotee culture. But let there be a problem and who do they call on? the useless fanatics and say "oh the ksatriya is here, now we are safe" Had Prabhupada's varnasrama instructions been put into action, I dare say that maybe we would have had Him around for some time longer. A checks and balance system takes place between the ksatriya and brahman that would not have aloud these cheaters to administer poison to Him, for fear of reprisal from the warrior. What to speak of the women, children, old people, and cows.

Because of the neglect to the ksatriya varna your children were raped, beaten and so many abuses inflected on them, that it breaks my heart to think of it. I wont go into the lack of chastity taught to the women by the corrupt leaders because that is an other heart breaking story that all honest devotees know and must admit. So in closing my dear devotees do the needful, reinstate Srila Prabhupada as the sole and only guru for ISKCON and follow His varnasrama instruction for reform and you will see positive results unprecedented in the post samadhi history of Prabhupada's Hare Krsna movement.

Hare Krsna, Caturbahu Dasa Bhakti

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01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
18) www.krishnabooks.org Krishna Books
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set

28) http://www.domgbc.org petition for new GBC
29) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
30) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)
31) http://www.vedabase.com/  (Vedabase, Bhaktivedanta Archives)