Dear Mukunda/ Sanat.
By the way, one of the ex-youth has asked us, why it is that you brave guys are threatening, even to kill, the GBC's raped victims, but you are not even mildly barking against the GBC, the rapers, even the raper gurus, the guru poisoners and what not, or even mentioning them? Instead you have started a website --discrediting-- the people who are fighting the molester and poison crimes, making many ask, why are you on the side of the bad guys?

So we replied, that the raped are an easy target for guys like Sanat/ Mukunda, because for starters the ex-kids have little money or organization to fight back. Sanat/ Mukunda know that if they threaten to chop up the GBC, they will get legal and maybe police troubles right away. So it is easier for them to jackboot a woman who has been raped than to chase her agressor? So they beat up on the raped and ignore challenging the rapers in the same tone. Either that, or they are defending the rapers and they know it? You figure. And Sulochana used to say that the people who defended the rapers and harassed the raped are "boot lickers for the butt busters." In any case, the people of the USA are not going to be happy to see that these raped victims are being threatened, and that is what Sanat/ Mukunda want to do, to discredit the movement even worse than the GBC is doing. "We think that the way to fix the Hare Krishna movment is to make it out as a mass murderer cult, worse than Charley Manson's." Have you guys been smoking some bad hash-hish or what! And yes, the ex-children who see you writings are more angry and convinced than ever to procede, i.e. you are not helping to appease them...

ys pd

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1) TO JAYA KRISHNA

Dear Paranjan please accept my humble obeisances all glories to Srila Prabhupada.
To Jaya Krsna Dasa, some kind of Vaisnava. I don't yet qualify even to be a dog for Srila Prabhupada. The pen is mightier than the sword, and as Vuctor Yugo once said, para.mine "There is a weapon more powerfull than all the armies of the world and that is when an ideas time has come." Lord Caitanya brought the method to destroy the demonic mentality, a weapon of great power.Srila Prabhupada brought us the Sastra, the books are our weapons and Srila Prabhupada used a pen. Get the point? Prabhupada was(is) an armed savior. Take the original Gita As It Is and use it as a platform for a new order just in the US and you run the risk of being labled a traitor. Lastly, Srila Prabhupada said that we don't take up fire arms or we ourselves will be killed. The weapons are the Holy Name, prasadam and the BOOKs. So we are well armed, and the Gita is our WAR PLAN. Thank you for your keen perception.

Hasti Gopala Dasa

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2) KARMA ARGUMENT USED BY NAZIS

Dear Paranjan all glories to Srila Prabhupada,please accept my humble obeisances.
I just read Rocana's article. It is a very fine piece of work and indicates a thorough understanding and apprecition of Srila Prabhupada as THE acharya for Kali Yuga and the philosophy. The predicted movements of Jagadisa on this chess board, I believe, are quite correct. Did not the Nazis during their persecution of the Jews, the disabled, the homosexuals, the Catholics and intellectuals also say that it was their destiny to die at their hands? So will Jagadisa dasa be purchasing a villa in South America soon? Thanks Rocan, thanks PADA.

Your servant
Hasti Gopla Dasa

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3) A MESSAGE FROM A YOUTH

Haribol Aravinda Prabhu! All glories to Srila Prabhupada! Please accept my humble obeisances!

I read through your e-mail you sent me and agree with your proposal. I know how you feel too, when you read the Radha Damodar vilas book by Vaiyasaki Prabhu. It is great isn’t it…. It encourages me right now to try to continue Srila Prabhupada’s movement. That is what is pushing me so far to preach, I would be pushed more if my friends and I were actually given responsibility, my friends who are gurukulis and vaishnava youth of northern California.

The success of the movement in the 70’s was because every single devotee was dedicated, there life and energy was for the movement, for Srila Prabhupada, but many of them left because they got kicked out, fried, or no one would support there families. We were an army though!!! The Sankirtana Army that was headed up by Srila Prabhupada himself. We still have him too. He left us everybody we need to continue, that’s why he slept only for 1-3 hours a day. To work, so we can continue his great legacy, I think so many years have passed by and now ISKCON is sadly crumbling and losing its unity.

The strength in the 60’s and 70’s was in the unity and dedication everyone had. We can get that back again, I feel it. There is going to be a day when my children could serve Srila Prahupada, while my mother lives in the temple taking care of the deity’s while we, the youth, will take care of the veterans who have given there love, sweat, energy, and life to build these temples. You will be taken care of, as you once thought you would by ISKCON, it will happen, and you and many others will be able to do pure devotional service with out politics, or hardships.

Why and how is it a corporation can take care of its employees with health benefits, retirement benefits and more, and ISKCON cant take care of its devotees that are devoted for not just 9 to 5pm, but 24 hours and seven days. The problem is that devotees lost trust in the movement and for that reason they cannot be dedicated, because they have to take care of there families. No one will take care of him or her, and the same for the youth. And also the leaders are not as warm hearted as Srila Prabhupada was, and as merciful and compassionate as he was. A leader is supposed to have compassion, sincerity, honesty, and enthusiasm...

Some leaders tell me that I have too much energy and that I am too enthusiastic, I feel sadden by that. Because they say I’m doing to fast for them to "authorize it all." It hurts me when they say that to me. I’m only trying to unite the devotees here in Northern California to serve Srila Prabhupada. And for the youth to organize festivals, do preaching programs, and take responsibility while the senior devotees as Gurudas Prabhu, Vaikuntanath Prabhu, Kritakrama Prabhu, Hrdaygovinda Prabhu, and other senior devotees that live here could and would guide us, support us, and work with us. That is what is happening right now in Berkeley. That is what we are trying to do.

At the same time encourage the gurkulis and Vaishnava youth. We have it in us to preach and to serve Krishna and our grand father Srila Prabhupada. I see it. I feel it. There is no doubt that we would and could be great preachers and devotees. But you know why some we aren’t qualified. Because we have no one to encourage us or to give us responsibility. I would give everything up for Srila Prabhupada if I was offered a responsibility. But I’m not, I’m not engaged. And many Prahbupada disciples out here feel that way too, as IN Alachua, that they want to do so much but there is no facility.

But even if we are unqualified, wouldn’t we become qualified if they encouraged us and engaged us in service. Just as Prabhupada engaged the first devotees in the movement, they smoked and did drugs, but Prabhupada had had mercy and had them take responsibility, than gradually they would give it up because devotional service purifies ones heart. Srila Prabhupada was merciful and compassionate. We, the vaishnava youth and gurukulis, can take leadership roles even if we are not qualified because we will become qualified, as all of you did. Srila Prabhupada had mercy for the fallen souls, can’t ISKCON leadership have mercy unto their children who are fallen, because of lack of facility and encouragement.

Some gurukulis feel bad to come to the temples because they would get criticized or something. But if they were to be encouraged to do service than they would begin following four regulative principles and chant 16 rounds of Hare Krishna. With the guidance and support from devotees like you, we can become qualified and we can manage and lead our brothers and sisters, and fathers and mothers, and uncle and aunts, to please Srila Prabhupada. He said that "the children are the future of this society." You are right, I think it is time… To actually do the transition you brought up, which I completely agree on, there should be a process.

I don’t think the first step should be to do it all at once, but by doing a case by case, or temple by temple. By starting in Alachua and Berkeley, for example. Build a project. We are actually trying to do it, but don’t have real backing, like what you are trying to attract. What you are trying to attract we need here. The H.K.Y. Project’s goal is basically what you wrote on Chakra. However, we first try to encourage and bring the gurukulis and youth together.

Bring them back to the temple and absorb them. So than they can become and get enthused, and than they would be ready to revolutionize this movement, than the world. Than a transition can happen in a temple, in each temple one by one. Or a few, than al of them. With a few we can show a report of those few temple activities with the youth amanging with the guidance of the seniors, than with those great reports we can push on the idea for the transition throughout ISKCON as a whole.

For example, in America there are only two parties, Democrats and Republicans that manage the country. However there is a new party with new ideas, the Green Party. SO we can be thought of as that new party, with a proposal, (which was Srila Prabhupada’s original idea anyway). But in order for the green party to get to the postion of managing the whole country like the Republicans and democrats do, they are to first building up popularity as Ralph Nader did with the Green Party in the Presidential race. Nader didn’t expect to win the presidential race, he was just in it to build popularity. In addition to that, they took over the small towns and cities with there parties. So the Green party first manages and runs cities and towns, than they could build a profile to prove the country that they can manage the whole United States better than the republicans and democrats could.

Similarly we would do a few temples, at the same time get the backing of the leaders, so we can have solid ground to do this on. Otherwise it is hard. It is hard for my friends and I over here, because we don’t have any outside support, or proper notice by the leaders. The day will come when Srila Prabhupadas grand children will continue what you and others help build, and we will do our best for Srila Prabhupada.

Your servant
Vishvambhara das

P.S. In my next e-mails I will just send you the newsletters and other stuff online.

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4) Dear survivor!

Of course that whomever decided to act in those abusive manners are naturally very much entangeled in the modes of nature and have to take the reactions of whatever stupid actions their bodie have been engaged within. This is as sure as law of death. Law of karma doesnt miss anything rest asured of that. Not even a blade of grass. So The revange to know that the abuser will get due painfull reaction is in truely guaranteed. Now the question is how are you gonna heal yourself?

Of course there is unlimited exampel to do this and Im not claiming to be expert in this areas but some thoughts are coming to my mind. To free your own self from eternal condemnation of what ever happened. First of all THE SOUL ARE NEVER influenced by matter "JUST" covered over. That means the soul is never impure like the sun is never covered by the clouds it just look like it is.

So you, the soul, is never dirty. Srila Prabhupada helped us to understand that this material reality is not more real than a night dream. So allthough it is a horrible dream its still a dream. So nobodie has made you the eternal soul dirty or in anyway changed to some lesser being no matter what happened in this material world. So to be abel to deal with all those nasty experiences within the material world we must "unfortunatly" over come with the sword of knowledge. You are thus allways pure and nice and nothing material can change that.

So if we like to come out of this material illusion and abel to accept persons love and affection it seems to me we have to somehow or another make our heart so great that we can forgive anybody with the words Jesus used: forgive them because they dont know what they are doing.

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5) RE: CORRUPT OLIGARCHY

From: "Harinam"

As the IRM and their bogus guru issue is now in the court somewhere and the child abuse lawsuit is only aimed at monetary compensation, and the formal poison investigation is not even started, and the book change issue is who knows where, etc. etc. etc., actual reform in ISKCON management is presently only found in the petition drive for carrying out Srila Prabhupada's Direction of Management for an elected GBC. This is the only effort aimed at improving the present unauthorized and corrupt oligarchy in ISKCON management without which there will be no real solution to the fundamental deviations.

Therefore anyone who is desirous of actually restablishing Srila Prabhupada's will and directions the GBC should be part of his Direction of Management petition drive. More info is at www.domgbc.org Srila Prabhupada states clearly in his Direction of Management the purpose of his GBC. "The purpose of the Governing Body Commission is to act as the instrument for the execution of the Will of His Divine Grace. And further,

1. The GBC oversees all operations and management of ISKCON, as it receives direction from Srila Prabhupada and His Divine Grace has the final approval in all matters." So you see all management corruption and deviations in ISKCON stem from disobeying this fundamental institutional directive of its founder-acharya.

Therefore we should all unite and work to carryout this all-important order and mission of the greatest devotee of Lord Chaitanya.

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* http://www.acbspn.com/ BOMBAY India
* http://www.krsna.tv

*Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation

* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)

* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.

* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set

28) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english)
29) http://www.domgbc.org petition for new GBC
30) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
31) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)