PADA EDITORIAL

It is said in the Chaitanya Charitamrta that a person can move to Jagganatha Puri and even stay with his wife, and this is called "kshetra sannyasa." That way, one is technically renounced just by dint of of staying in the holy dham. Well, we are most fortunate to live near "new Jagganatha Puri" here in the San Francisco area, so perhaps we can try to become more renounced and realized by the grace of Lord Jagganatha. And so our plan is to spend more time associating with local folks and to be more engaged in devotional programs in "real time" and less time dealing with "cyber space," although we will certainly maintain an internet presence, just less than we have up till now. Yep, good devotees are also encouraging us for more associating, bhajans, kirtans, chanting, reading, preaching and so on. And eating giant gulabs. Can't go wrong with this plan?

We also have an old Yamaha music keyboard and we can try to sing some bhajanas, and in this way avoid the whole problem of some devotees who find the need for prozac, beer, peppermint schnops, marijuana, cocaine, crank, ecstacy(?), GBH, and God knows whatever else, since bhajana is the most relaxing thing in the universe? At least, that is our experience?

We have gone far with the major issues of controversy in ISKCON and we have got the GBC leaders "on the run." It is sort of like, the GBC's airplane has crashed, and it is in the mopping up phase. The GBC leaders are never going to recover to their former glory, and some of them are even now admitting: that they screwed the whole mission up; that they were never appointed as gurus; and that only Srila Prabhupada can be worshipped in ISKCON as the acharya. A few GBC have even stated confidentially to pada's associates that they think that the poison issue has a lot of merit, and there is probably something to it. Some of the other leaders have gone off to taking tranquilizers like prozac, which we'd say is a good thing in their case. Some of them, like Harikesha, have even wrote to pada wishing us well and hoping that we can all sort of mellow out now that all of his false posturing game is over.

We were recently in touch with a woman, a woman who has always been very devout to Sulochana prabhus writings by the way, who put her child on the Turley case. And she wants us to help her and her child with their testimony. One thing she noted was that none of the leaders from ISKCON have ever contacted her about the problems that either she or her child experienced. There seems to be no concern among the leaders for the victims of the ISKCON child molesting regime? And apart from --initially-- pada, and things like Raghunatha's newsletters, the issue was not even discussed at all up to fairly recently with the eventual formation of semi-independent groups like the "Children Of Krishna" and so on. But even then, these are some of the victims and still not the leaders making efforts to "reach out"? Nor has an independent council been created with any real clout to fix the problems either? I told her that in dysfunctional families, they always blame the victims, or at least ignore the victims, and so on, and that is what is happening in ISKCON now. "Oh the beaten wife went to the police, see, she is a bum who is trying to RUIN the family." OH fer sure.... No. Dysfunctional family characteristic.

Oddly, Puru has said that the Turley case is the inevitable karma of the GBC for all of the molesting and he admits pada is good for launching the poison case. So he is apparently not in agreement that these children are "getting their bad karma"? Anyway, we told this woman that she has to understand the history of how the mass molesting occured. She has to understand that the GBC and Gaudiya Matha deviants said: (1) Srila Prabhupada is a guru (guru tattva), (2) Jesus is a guru (guru tattva) and, (3) and ...Kirtanananda is a guru (guru tattva). Therefore the GBC and Gaudiya Matha deviants said all along -- and Puru/ Sanat/ Mukunda types are STILL saying -- that people like Jesus are homosexuals and child molesters? Molesters are: guru tattva, at least according to this team? And Srila Prabhupada is guru tattva? And Jesus is guru tattva? And Kirtanananda is -- guru tattva? Ya think folks? So she has to see this thread, and how it impacted the society, and maybe in this way she can help her son, and the other kulis, and the Turley folks et al., --comprehend that this juxtaposing was NOT Srila Prabhupada's plan for ISKCON.

This woman said Sulochana always disliked their party. Anyway, she is going to try to help others involved with the case and we think this is the best way to impact the case, with solid preachers like this woman. We'd also like to thank Mukunda dasa (Oldham) for printing Chaturbahu's letter admitting that even the meat eaters are smarter than guys like Puru/ Sanat, because meat eaters never accept that homosexual pedophiles are, were, or could be gurus, guru tattva and so on. EVER! This is a fact, the meat eaters at least worship a bona fide guru, Lord Jesus, and they never worship homosexuals and pedophiles UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. EVER! Good points! Credit must be given where it is due, thanks Mukunda dasa, right on! Now, where's my Yamaha? Time for kirtana!

ys pd

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2) DO NOT BE MAYAVADI

Just as Krsna is spiritually present in His Murti in the alter, similarly the PURE DEVOTEE PRABHUPADA, IS THERE IN HIS GURU PUJA, AND IS PRESENT SEEING EVERYTHING IN HIS ISKCON, AND IS PRESENTLY INSPIRING ALL THE REFORM DEVOTEES, TO CORRECT ISKCON. The Diety worship or Guru puja of Srila Prabhupada, becomes idol worship if the follower does not have the above devotional understanding.Presently, ISKCON could be re-named "The International Society for ATHEISTIC Consciousness." This is what the whole *Living Guru* PLOT is all about. Kill Guru and become Guru. Kill God and be God.

Sometimes, we read "good devotees" letters on the internet, and they would state that Prabhupada has left and gone back to the Spiritual World. He will leave IF everyone rejects Him. So that means He will stay for the next 10,000 years as He Himself stated, with the good works of the IRM, PSS, PADA and all the thousands of devotees who are prepared to turn their houses into *Prabhupada Preaching Centers* around the world. That, *Prabhupada left*, is where Satsvarupa Swami was very successful with his so-called *lilamrta*. He projected Prabhupada as a mundane man, and is continuing to MIS-lead everyone who reads about Prabhupada. And Bhakti Caru Swami is doing it with His offensive flims. What bothers me is that these men know that they have to die and go, how can they hate and envy Prabhupada for all His Great Works and sacrifice He did, and is still doing for HUMANITY?

Here is Srila Prabhupada's answer supplied by Damaghosa dasa (Pada 1:8) "Influenced by an envious temperament and dissatisfied because of an attitude of sense gratification, mundaners criticize a real Acarya. In fact, however, a bonafide Acarya, is non different from the Personality of Godhead, and therefore to envy such an Acarya, is to envy the Personality of Godhead Himself. THIS WILL PRODUCE AN EFFECT SUBVERSIVE TO TRANSCENDENTAL REALIZATION. (Adi Lila 1.46)

"On the whole, you may know that he is not a liberated person, and THEREFORE, he cannot initiate any person to Krsna Consciousness. It requires SPECIAL SPIRITUAL BENEDICTION from higher authorities." (SP.Letter to Janardana,26/4/68) A Guru can become guru when he is ordered by his guru. Thats all. Otherwise nobody can become guru. (SP. Final order page 10)

In other words, to start an entire new mission, in the parampara, as Srila Prabhupada did, one needs special spiritual benediction, must be qualified and have the ORDER, from the "Current Acarya". As in Srila Prabhupada's case, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Thakura. But we are convinced that Srila Prabhupada is THE PREDICTED SELF-EFFULGENT ACARYA,FOR THE NEXT 10,000 YEARS, OR AS LONG AS ISKCON LASTS. That's why if the GBC's and Narayana Maharaja could keep Prabhupada out of ISKCON, they will shine. But when IRM court case restores Prabhupada, to get revenge at Prabhupada,they will try to destroy ISKCON or finally kill Him.

Satsvarupa Swami still further tried to kill Prabhupada,by changing His Books. The purpose of changing the books, were to facilitate men who are condition Souls, to be recognized and accepted as Pure Liberated Souls,Diksa Acaryas. (SP.Conversation,"Rascal Editors",22/6/77) courtesy Kapindra Swami PSS.) Srila Prabhupada-- "So you ...What you are doing ...It is very serious situation. You write one letter that "Why you have made so many changes? "And whom to write? Who will care? ALL RASCALS ARE THERE. Write to *Satsvarupa* that "This is the position. THEY ARE DOING ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING AT THEIR WHIM. The next printing should be again to the original way."

(Please note that this conversation took place 25 days after the Hi-jack May 28th 1977 tape, to become Acaryas. Satsvarupa is the main culprit here. Yasodananda Prabhu is asking the question. The first way to torture Prabhupada, was to let him know that we are changing your books, and like when Kirtananda came and showed Him his Brijbasi magazine. Tamal commented in his diary, that Prabhupada was very pleased. He also said that Prabhupada was not disgusted with his disciples on His disappearance. They all had everyone believe them like a pack of Jackass.

So any guru in ISKCON with disciples is free to leave and open their own Movement, like my good friend in Guyana, Rshabadeva who has 50 disciples, was a Satsvarupa disciple, and have the name *Andolan Sanatan Dharma*. The issue here is that Prabhupada wants us to be Siksa Gurus,and not stiffle us. Or rather, immediately as one joins *Prabhupada's Original ISKCON*, He immediately becomes a siksa guru once he distributes Prabhupada's books, tells people that Krsna is God, gives prasada, and do Harinama. Otherwise we become broken branches, which will dry up and only MIS-lead innocent people. The world has 6 billion people. With Prabhupada's blessings, each devotee can assist Prabhupada to deliver his whole Country, by following this simple process. BUT ONE MUST HAVE FAITH AND LOVE IN THE ACARYA.

On 3/5/76,Prabhupada stated *And they may kill me also*. On the 21st of the same month, same country Honolulu, (quotes below), He was showing the devotees, how they are all gurus, knowing the Acarya plot is soon, and not 11 will be gurus. Is it not obvious, that Prabhupada was expecting the devotees to revolt against he11, instead of walking away, after He was placed in His Samadhi???? (All glories to Ambarish Ford Prabhu, for donating 10 million $US for Prabhupada's Samadhi). It is very obvious, that Prabhupada lectures were not sent to centers world wide. As a matter of fact, Ramesvara Swami's job was to "cut and splice"tapes. He was caught "red-hand". And to Hear and destroy the ones that could lead to discover the plot. Combined with Satsvarupa and Tamal, a total of 2107 tapes are missing from the Bhaktivedanta Archieves Vedabase. In 1977, Tamal Swami and Satsvarupa Swami destroyed 151 tapes,and also 47 in 1976. Nevertheless,we have sufficient information to convict and prosecute them.

"Because people are in darkness, we require many millions of gurus to enlightment them. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission is, [...] He said that, "Everyone of you become guru."(SPL.21/5/76) (Please note -->>>> How can there be millions of gurus, if we are not all disciples of Srila Prabhupada, with Him as the Acarya in the center????) "Real guru is he who instructs what Krsna has said ...You have simply to say, 'This is this.' That's all. Is it very difficult task?" (SPL 21/5/76)

"...."But I have no qualification.How can I become guru? "There is no need of qualification ...Whomever you meet, you simply instruct what Krsna has said. That's all. You become guru." (SPL .21/5/76) "You simply say [...] "just always think of me", Krsna said, "And just become my devotee. Just worship Me and offer obeisances." So if you can induce one person to do these things,you become guru. Is there any difficulty?" (SP.Con. 2/8/76 Paris) (All quotes on page 11 of Prabhupada's *Final Order*.)

From these verses above, Prabhupada was undermining their Take over plot, but the devotees could not understand His language. Caturbahu Prabhu (a pre-1977 disciple) states that in the conversation book August 1st 1975, that Srila Prabhupada wanted this Varnasrama system for all of us members of ISKCON. He points out that one pay particular attention to the participants of these conversation, as that will tell you who are the persons that neglected and misguided the society.

Prabhupada said that if you want to know me read my books. And the whole plot is there,within His Books, Lectures, and Personal letters. As a matter of fact, he hardly used the phone, writing over 7000 letters, to reveal the plot. These are the same letters that Sulochana Prabhu got killed for. You see, not implementing Varnasrama, is directly linked to the poisoning of Srila Prabhupada, TO BECOME ACARYAS AND TAKE HIS SEAT (OVER THROW HIM), and not be simple gurus (siksa), as Prabhupada requests in the four above verses. In 1974, this would turn the entire society into householders, and the *11 Acaryas* would loose grip on seizing power. Also to intentionally destroy the gurukula children, was a top priority.

These children were a threat to the *Acarya System* by their gradual purity, and many were disciples of Prabhupada. Now, when I joined the movement in 1981, I had to be a disciple of any of the 11 Acaryas, not Prabhupada. Although I was a 21 year old man, my relationship with a gurukula boy, is that I would have had to call him uncle. Or we had a devotee who joined at the age of 60 years, and was a *Satsvarupa Disciple*. He and many others, would have had to call the children uncle and not Prabhu, because they were the Godbrothers of their guru. And it was best to run all the 5500 disciples out of the movement, so when their new disciples came, they could build their empire, with no opposition.

Actually, in dictatorship countries, or where a coup is staged, they execute all opposition, to remain in absolute power. ISKCON 11 Acaryas shared the power with 65 other acaryas, and in turn they shared power with all temple Presidents, who in turn would keep right-hand men. NOW, BECAUSING YOU ALL DID NOT KNOW, AND HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MURDERING OF SRILA PRABHUPADA, PLEASE UNITE AND KICK OUT THE CONSPIRATORS, AND CARRY OUT THE *REAL ORDERS* OF SRILA PRABHUPADA. *YOU ALL HAVE BEEN USED, PUTTING ONESELF IN A DOOMED POSITION !!!!

Again in 1977, Feb.14th, Mayapura, Srila Prabhupada insisted that Varnasarama must be introduced. 70 copies of this article was distributed. Please re-read -- Hari Sauri- "But then if everybody's being raised to the brahminical platform-" Prabhupada -- "Not everybody. Why you are misunderstanding? Varnasrama, Not everybody brahmana."

Prabhupada--" ...How many percentage of people of the world we are controlling? Very insignificant. But if you want to make the whole human society perfect, then this Krsna Consciousness movement should be introduced according to Krsna's instruction, if you want to do it in a large scale for the benefit of the whole human society..." Four years ago at the South Temple, I asked Guru Prasad Swami in a class, "Why this movement is running as if we are the only saved ones?" The question was brushed aside. From the above quote, we can see that Prabhupada have a master plan to make the Whole World Krsna Conscious through Varnasrama, AND IT IS STILL GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!

In the purport to the "amara" verse it states: "One can remain comfortable in his residence (...) EVERY PERSON MUST GET MARRIED (...) That is one should stay at home,chant the Hare Krsna mantra and preach the instructions of Krsna..." When Thirta, Madhava,and Bon Maharaja's opposed Prabhupada in 1967, from this very time Prabhupada was going to implement Varnasrama. Kirtananda took their poisonous influence, and demanded sannyasa, to be Successor. In 1970 Prabhupada was locked up, with no food and water, and then stated that some how he was able to save the situation. In 1971 He wrote a letter that the most sinister movement is within our movement. He diverted the mission, by giving many high profile Sannyasa positions. All very fired up, they distributed millions of books, like the Bhagavad Gita, Easy journey to other planets, Science of self Realization, etc..

Is it not amazing that Prabhupada made Atheistic, impersonalist people distribute millions of *Personalists* or Vaisnava Books glorifying The *PERSONALITY * of Godhead and the Worship of the Pure devotees???? UNBELIEVABLE!!!! It is like giving your enemies a plane load of time bombs, telling them that the cases are filled with gems, which will eventually lead to their Self destruction. These books and the sincere devotees that come foward, *answering the call* of Srila Prabhupada, WILL SAVE HIS MOVEMENT.

It is very AMAZING that the very prayers we sing every day in ISKCON,we are doing the VERY OPPOSITE. namas te sarasvate deve gaura-vani-pracarine nirvisesa-sunyavadi-pascatya-desa-tarine. "Our respectful obeisances are unto you, O spiritual master,servant of Sarasvati Gosvami. You are kindly preaching the message of Lord Caitanyadeva and delivering the Western countries, WHICH ARE FILLED WITH IMPERSONALISM AND VOIDISM."

By putting a condition soul on the alter, and saying that Prabhupada said to do so, is such terrible offense. Once you say you need a living guru, who is a condition soul, (1)it means you become equal to Prabhupada, or one with Prabhupada, which also means you become equal to God, or one with God >> THIS IS MAYAVADA philosophy. (2) To put your picture on the altar, and think that the Pure Devotee is dead and gone, so you need a living guru, who is a condition soul, it is just like thinking that Krsna is dead and gone, but the murti is to only remind us of him >> THIS IS ATHEISM. (3)And to worship Prabhupada, and all the previous Acaryas, knowing that they are spiritually present, in their Transcendental identity >> THIS IS PERSONALISM OR VAISNAVA. (which ISKCON should be following.) The present system of ISKCON, which Prabhupada never left, all its leaders and followers are following Mayavadi and Atheism. Doomed !!!!

(Srila Prabhupada Letter to Pradyumana 17/10/67) ".........The last attack of Maya upon the conditioned souls is IMPERSONALISM...... and he thinks himself,one with the Supreme. This last attack is very serious and fatal. Kirtanananda has very recently developed, the 4th stage malady on account of his negligence and disobedience to his Spiritual Master."

(C.C.Madhya 6.169) "Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave protection to devotees and killed many demons in the course of His preaching work. He speciffically mentioned that the Mayavadi philosophers are the GREATEST DEMONS."

(C.C.Adi Lila 17.53) 'Now the next verse is that if you hear about Krsna from Krsna's Representative, Not from BOGUS MEN ...If you hear about Krsna from an *impersonalist*, so-called Mayavadi,then your future is doomed,finished." (Quotes courtesy Mukunda, of Prabhupada Sankirtana Society)

So in conclusion,the first 11 Mayavadi Acaryas became powerful,because of poison and strength. Their (1) POISON, is that they took Srila Prabhupada's seat. (As Diksa Guru). And their (2) STRENGTH, is that Prabhupada say to do so. And this is the simple way in which the whole society is being MIS-lead. So if the devotees are convinced in the contents of this letter,they will have no more STRENGTH, And when devotees reject the Mayavadi Leaders,and restore and worship the Pure Living Diksa Guru, Srila Prabhupada, then the Poison will be Removed. So simple. Thats it.

So having BOGUS MEN in the world is not the issue, having BOGUS MEN IN ISKCON, is the problem. This letter took 10 days non-stop on this computer. It was originally meant to be a New Years message. Please do not read it for 5 minutes,and throw it away. As vital service to Prabhupada, use your good influence to convince others of this Truth. The Liberated,pure devotee is free to move any where without restriction, just like Sri Krsna. The condition soul can be having sex with a man or boy, and we are told to worship him on the alter. This again is why the gurukula case is bitter and full of revenge. These children were told to do Gurupuja to the men who were having sex with them. I would have personally castrated that bitch, if it was my son. You know on Cable TV, the world did not hear that the children had to offer flowers, and worship these men as good as God. Mukunda and PADA are at war in this gurukula issue.

[PADA: Partially, they are also supporting Puru who is saying that Kirtananda is guru tattva, and they have also joined with the Gaudiya Matha, and we disagree, as do 99999 percent of the rest of the Prabhupadanuga devotees.]

Another trick with Satsvarupa Swami. He and Jagadish (former minister of education), chalked up a plan to set up reform devotees, to fight among themselves, and to get off the Hook, because they are defendants in the case.Satsvarupa Swami had sent all the Gita Nagari children to Mayapura school, after he himself put Bhavananda as headmaster / Guru, to finish off the children. Now as it is exposed, Satsvarupa skillfully puts a clause in the case blaming Srila Prabhupada. His mouth-piece Jagadish, told the world that "Prabhupada did not know what he was doing. He never should have allowed the parents to stay away from the children. It was a mistake."

Jagadish son Nirmal,who never got abused, said he saw the abuse of the others. Now Nirmal is spear heading this lawsuit, with the advice of his father and Satsvarupa, in the background. So it's just like Satsvarupa and Jagadish, using the same gurukula children, they were responsible for destroying, to blame Prabhupada for setting up a faulty gurukula institution, not suited for the American way of life. And in this way, you seize Prabhupada's assets, and go free.

It is a great pity and pain, that the former children,cannot understand that Prabhupada loves them. If they can only read this, and understand that Prabhupada made decisions with a gun pointed to His head. There is no monetary gain, to sue the perpetrators, but Satsvarupa's main interest is that they go free, and they finally destroy Prabhupada. Some of the GBC's should take out money from their Swiss accounts, and pay the children, or better yet, that the case turns around,and seize all their bank accounts.

In 1997 I donated $1100. US. to Satsvarupa Swami. He immediately sent a hand written letter thanking me, AND THAT HE WILL PUT IT IN THE RIGHT BANK ACCOUNT. (I have all these letters). In Jan.1998 I posted $1000. US again In 1995 he collected $600,000 US, in the name of re-writing the entire Srimad Bhagavatam. He did it by *disciples* making large pledges, via a news letter. One devotee Maha-mantra dasa sold his apartment, and donated $50,000 US, then putting his wife and children on the streets to live. WHERE IS THIS AND ALL THE 20 YEARS OF DONATION????

(For disciples of Satsvarupa Swami, if you are wondering how he will face this letter, don't bother. All my letters were personally posted to him. Especially when he was in Trinidad. An agent gave his servant it as if it was a donation. In 1997 in Trinidad, he said he wanted to have his guru puja at 10:00 am. When he entered the temple room, the first thing he said was "This is my birthday party, so I can have it when I want." When the arati finished, he got up and walked away without offering his obeisances to Prabhupada. I personally felt insulted, thats why I remember so vividly. So he says it's his birthday party, and that's what it really is. And he uses a rubber stamp for all letters. Write him and ask, and you will see that he will tell you "that I thought you know you had a rubber stamp guru. Then you are a fool. What were you looking for????

"Don't bother, he can handle himself. Also he does not have headaches. It is to divert attention from this issue. How do you people think I felt, when I got to know? I was a fanatic. And I donated $12,000 in 97 & 98 before being banned. But for Prabhupada I am prepared to do any thing. And you should be like that also.) As far as I can understand, if Srila Prabhupada was physically present, and spent one year in Trinidad, while all this abuse took place, when he found out, He would have embraced all these former children, Even self they critized Him. This is a very sensitive issue. Remember they were abused in His institution. And the GBC's and Narayana Maharaja say it's their Karma. It is a very irresponsible statement to make when nothing was done to help, compensate, improve and even try to bring these devotees back to Prabhupada. The result is now they critize Prabhupada.

WHY ???? Because all the senior devotees stayed SILENT. Evil flourishes when GOOD PEOPLE STAY QUIET. We need good devotees like Urmila Devi Dasi to speak out here. When Raghunatha Anudasa told Badrinarayana Dasa, to give them compensation a few years ago, he said GO TO COURT IF YOU WANT !!!! Ragunatha is an abused gurukula, got very educated on his own, is against the blaming of Prabhupada, and has Firmly Glorified Srila Prabhupada. Puranjana has spoken to stop blaming the Victims. He never said that he agrees with the children blaspheming Prabhupada. Any criticism these former children make, I see it as actually being done by ALL THE SILENT LEADERS AND FOLLOWERS.

But that crooked Bitch Jagadish, did not tell the world that His duty was to protect those children. That also he and Satsvarupa Swami agreed to kick out Yasodananda Prabhu and Dr sharma, whom Prabhupada personally left in charge of the gurukula, and that they personally put Bhavananda instead. They knew He was a Homosex. And we have a personal conversation with Jagadish, where he is insisting to Srila Prabhupada that a gurukula boy should be beaten. Prabhupada clearly states that children should never be beaten, and that one who beats, should be hanged. But the GBC's say for one who has sex with children, he should be worshipped AS GOOD AS GOD.

[PADA: And worse, even after having sex with children, the GBC/ Puru/ Sanat still say these bums are guru tattva.]

Now, after the may 28th 1977 hi-jack tape, with Satsvarupa Swami, and His Pal Tamal, trying hard to get the words "grand-disciple" and "disciple of my disciple", Prabhupada *erupted* on giving Sannyasa on July 1st 1977 (Courtesy Dravinaksa das, Pada) Srila Prabhupada speaks: "This should be strictly outlawed, NO MORE SANNYASIS. And those sannyasis who have fallen, you get them married, live like a ...NO MORE THIS SHOW BOTTLE CHEATING. It is very ludicrous. Even there is promise that "We shall not fall down again," that is also not believable. What is the use? Better go and speak philosophy in your grhastha dress, not this dress, but you should have nice coat, pants, gentleman. Who says no? I never said. Rather I shall be glad to see that up to date gentlemen with tilak and sikha are speaking. This is very prestigeous everywhere. WHY THIS FALSE DRESS? What is the wrong to become grhasta? I was grhastha, paka caliber grhastha."

These Guys were like 30 year old boys,in 1968 / 69,and they were putting their pictures on Srila Prabhupada's alter. Just 2 years association with Prabhupada, and over night Pure Devotee. If the whole Movement knew of this conversation in 1977, these men would never have gotten through with this devious plot.

So Prabhupada gave Sannyasa, in the begining 1967 under circumstances, and in 1977 after finishing his books, Sannyasa was completely outlawed. NO MORE THIS SHOW BOTTLE. CHEATING ...WHY THIS FALSE DRESS???? Again Prabhupada tricked these men.

So to these Swami's and others, Please do not try to bring His Divine Grace to your low level, and of course He wasn't killed.

Tamal Krsna ---- "He didn't die on the cross".
Prabhupada ---- "It is not possible to kill him. Such a great personality, -- representative of God, he is not killed. That
is not possible."
Tamal Krsna-- "Simply by putting some wounds."
Prabhupada-- "He made a show that *I am killed*. That is resurrection. And --when you finished your business, then he will go (indistinct). (SP. room conversation, in Bombay India, 16/4/77)

This conversation is 2 pages long, and very, very, interesting. The tape is available from Visvamitra Dasa.

To the devotees of Guyana and Trinidad,
I am prepared to donate $500.00 each month for Prasad, in a massive monthly Harinama, in Port of Spain and Georgetown. I want to purchase $100,000 in books and Japa beads, circulating the cash, to create employment for devotees, and to deliver people. These Harinamas are to unite devotees and make people devotees. (SP.--"There are many candidates awaiting this message"). All Prabhupada flims are to be shown on TV. A Radio station to start playing all Prabhupada Lectures in a series, over and over till we die. Request rich people in different villages, to use the devotees Harinama to feed their village.

Arrange Pilgrimage trips from Hindu temples by the bus loads, to visit displays of Prabhupada, who He is and what He did for the world. Then they will be able to take darshan of Their Lordships Sri Sri Gaura Natai and Sri Sri Radha Gopinath and be blessed. And most important, THEY WILL GET TO KNOW THAT PRABHUPADA COULD BE THEIR GURU, TO GIVE DIKSA, TRANSCENDENTAL KNOWLEDGE, through his books for the whole world, and they no longer have to accept a homosex as a guru.

to be continued...

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

NEW SITE: http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)

* http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
* http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)
* http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)
* http://www.JitendriyaBooks.com

*Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation

* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)

* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.

* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
28) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
29) www.acbspn.com/ BOMBAY India
30. www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)

31) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
32) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
33) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)

A WEB SITE DEALING WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN EXPLOITATION:
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/catw/tocv.htm