1) ABOUT "THE DIRECTION OF MANAGEMENT"

Dear Pada. Pranamas, Jaya Srila Prabhupada.

One of the major problems with the current GBC adopting the original DOM (Direction of Management) is that they would be subject to being voted out in bona fide impartial vote. The current GBC has no credibility or integrity. Their long list of deviations, scandals, cover-ups and philosophical concoctions has been well documented. But still they think that they are right and they are the "real" representatives of Srila Prabhupada. It is my observation that they will never give up their posts voluntarily. It has become a lucrative business for them.

It should be remembered that the current master minds of the ISKCON Goru fiasco are still firmly entrenched in their positions. Devotees should not be so naive as to think that the GBC deviants and purveyors of bogus philosophies are not squeaky clean even if they wave the flag of reform and adoption of the DOM. ISKCON needs a major house cleaning. Full resignations and public apologies from all of its current GBCs. Then the discussion of how to implement the DOM may have some credibility.

In the meantime Srila Prabhupada has given us clear warnings about misrepresenters of the original bona fided philosophy of the acharya "No one should be willing to hear one who does not represent the original acharya" Srimad-Bhagavatam, First Canto:

Ys Yasoda

[PADA: Good points. First, we need to get the bogus gurus out of the cupboards? Then, we can try to cook the prasadam? Otherwise, prasada mixed with bogus guru's remnants? This will never work. That is why we suggested some time ago that legal actions be taken to bring the GBC deviants down. Simply quoting some quotes is good, but it has no tangible effect on entrenched rascals. So we have wanted a real tangible plan of action to clean house, part of which is to legally challenge these false gurus for fraudulently misappropriating ISKCON funds, creating molester pooja, and so on. There should have been some "teeth" to this reform effort, although it will certainly reform anyway, but it will take a longer time as the deviants kind of gradually --wither away. Sri Rama does not seem to understand this factor either: people simply have no confidence in the current GBC, thus the main deviants at least, they have to go before we can regain credibility. Merely repackaging some new nomenclatures and managerial designations for the same old team of corrupt conspiratorial cronies will not help us. Nor will forcing them to accept a certain document help us, why is force needed? That means they may make a show bottle of following the DOM but they will still keep up to their old tricks. So, they have to go. thanks pd]

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2) DEATH THREATS

Dear Prabhus
I received this threats from Hridayananda's das Mexican gunda called Hare Krsna das. I thought I would share it with devotees -- so they can see these people are NOT devotees AT ALL! The mistake the Hridayananda das made In the purport to his Srimad Bhagavatam (11.2.45) has been CLEARLY refuted by quotations FROM Srila Prabhupada's books. Mistakes are made by CONDITIONED souls. Hridayanada has PROVED himself as a CONDITIONED soul. Further ---Locanananda dasa Prabhu (see below) has also spoted this and given his VALUABLE analysis in the most suitable manner. Perhaps this thug called Hare Krsna das will come to terms with this? Or if he still thinks Hridayananda das has got ANY substance then let him REFUTE IT. We are READY to discuss ON THE OPEN FORUM. I doubt that Hridaynanda will answer to this.

Finally the thug Hare Krsna das wrote: For last, I do not recommend to any body make public derogative insults to our Gurumaharaja, because many of my Godbrothers are professional soldiers and they are very intolerant and fanatics. Therefore they are ready for use his warskill against to any body that make unsult like that.

My reply: Please send these intolerant fanatics immediately -- the UK government will put them in Jail -- where they belong. Professional soldiers they cannot be -- Ksatriya spirit is to defend from injury but since you say "intolerant fanatics" We will point this to the Legal Authorities here and see that proper action is taken against them in Law Courts here so they definitely serve A VERY VERY LONG TERM IN PRISON. Please also state your legal name and address so we will see how to put you also in Jail.

Thanks!

Ys mahesh

Locanananda dasa prabhus article: Concerning Narada, the Bhagavatam describes how, as a young boy, he performed meditation in an uninhabited forest, fixing his mind on the Supersoul. By the grace of the Lord, he was able to see the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead on the lotus of his heart. Although he would not see the form of the Lord again in that lifetime, he was able hear His voice. There is no difference between hearing the voice of the Lord and seeing His form. The Lord explained to him that only one who is constantly engaged in pure unalloyed devotional service can see His transcendental form at all times.

Narada achieved liberation and in his spiritual body travels freely within the material and spiritual worlds, glorifying the names and activities of Sri Krishna. He is considered to be the spiritual master of all vaisnavas in the universe. A pure devotee like Narada experiences the presence of the Lord at every moment. In a body perfectly suited to associate with the Lord in His trancendental pastimes, Narada is infallible in his exalted position. As to whether he is seeing the Lord at all times, he himself reveals this in the Bhagavatam: "The Supreme Lord Sri Krishna, whose glories and activities are pleasing to hear, at once appears on the seat of my heart, as if called for, as soon as I begin to chant His holy activities." (S.B. 1.6.33)

Since Narada is always chanting the glories of the Lord, we can be sure that he is seeing Krishna in his heart of hearts at all times. Hrdayananda Maharaja has mistakenly presented a conclusion different than that set forth by Srila Prabhupada when he states that a pure devotee may not be seeing Krishna's form everywhere, even though he is fully qualified as a maha-bhagavata. That is the danger of trying to go beyond what has been taught by one's own spiritual master.

Your servant, Locanananda dasa

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3) From: Chatur bahu dasa

All glories to Srila Prabhupada

Dear Mother Linda, Please accept my humble obeisances at the Lotus feet of Sri Sri Gaura-Nitai.
We have only one question of you if you please. Do your husband or you have any proclivities toward any personalities that can at all be considered part of the Gaudiya-matha or ISKCON? (Puru, Narayana Maharaja, Sridhara Maharaja, etc.) Even a second hand association?

[PADA: Sanat/ Linda's connection to Puru and the Gaudiya Matha and Kirtanananda is totally direct, i.e. Sanat is directly sending out messages penned by Mr. Puru, currently the biggest cheerleader of the Gaudiya Matha's deviants, and a big backer of Kirtanananda's "multi-faith" program. Ummm, we mean multi-sex partner guru program. Sanat is citing Puru saying that we should not criticize their Gaudiya Matha deviant's homosexual pedophile guru lineage's founder fathers from 1936, and even, that we should not criticize their newer homosexual pedophile gurus like Kirtanananda. "Guru tattva" that is what Puru says? And Sanat has found his new pal here? Or is this his old pal? Guru lila is -- sucking genitals -- for these fools?

And they cannot say "we did not know" since we pointed out that defect for the past two years, and then Sanat/ Linda later endorsed this identical Mr. Puru. So they are endorsing the idea that Srila Prabhupada appointed or wanted homosexual pedophiles as his guru successors, as per Puru's incessant rants, and exactly as Jaggadish and Nirmal say: "Srila Prabhupada wanted this Kirtanananda to be the next big leader and a guru." No, Srila Prabhupada had severe doubts about these leaders....

So Puru/ Sanat/ Linda are giving the same argument as the objectionable element of the Turley case, the buck stops at Srila Prabhupada because "he wanted these big leaders like Kirtanananda to be guru." No, he wanted us all to read his books, and if someone was deviating, to corral them in. So this is Sanat's way of placing the blame for the molesting back on Srila Prabhupada, rather than accept that he was and is the party that supported and created the molester pooja empire. So rather than have the buck stop at people like his own feet, where it belongs, he is passing the buck to Srila Prabhupada by introducing this Puru theory that Srila Prabhupada wanted Kirtanananda to be the next big leader/ acharya? Jaggadisha and Nirmal's conclusion?

By the way "bhogha" is STILL being offered to photos of Kirtanananda at the temple Puru frequents, and as Sanat knows, this means that the people eating it may become homosexuals since they imbibe the qualities of the "remnants." So it is evident that Sanat is still trying to make children become homosexual worshippers by eating such "prasad." He has not changed his old ways. At all. By the way, this also means that Sanat is glorifying the killers of Srila Prabhupada and Sulochana. So Sanat is endorsing that we have to eat "guru and devotee killer prasad" which will make more guru and devotee killers, since one becomes what he worships? Of course, as Sulochana pointed out, Puru (Sanat's) Kirtanandana guru eats kids genitals for lunch as well....]

CB: It is very important to us who we're aligned with.

[PADA: And that is why Sanat never sent you his messages, nor did Mukunda tell you about them, they are trying to hide and misrepresent themselves to you as is also done by the GBC. They say one thing to one party and something else to another.]

CB: As we are sure it is with you. We also do not like Puranjana, but if the man is pointing out an indiscretion that we also are admittedly concerned with, Gold from a dirtyy place. Even if that place be Puranjana dasa (that one was for you, Puranjana). We would have assumed that you wouldn't print anything until it was resolved!! Bad boy. Very ungentilemanly conduct. Bad form, bad form.

[PADA: Well agreed, we are dirty, but we do not worship homosexual pedophile gurus and endorse their 1930s and 1970s lineages and current cheerleaders like Puru/ Sanat.]

CB: Have we again given milk to a snake? Knock it off and pay attention.) This Puranjana is embracing one of the most wholly offensive acts to hit this planet.

[PADA: Ummm, we are not "embracing" anything. We reported that the Turley case is the result of the activities of guys --like Sanat-- supporters of Satsvarupa and co., and we never embraced that at all? Indeed, we were kicked out in 1980, remember? You are making no sense? We fought against Sanat's empire all along? Sanat embraced the worship of pedophiles, not us? And he still does, that is why he has linked with Puru/ Kirtanananda. He faked that he was on our side, but he was just waiting to use us to re-launch his real ideal, namely the Gaudiya Matha and Kirtanananda agenda, this time using our e-mail addresses list which is what he did. He and Mukunda tried to get our e-mail list to send out their pedophile pooja plan later on.

By the way, Sanat Mukunda also say they want WW III to happen soon, so by your logic, they want to kill millions of cows? You guys make no consistent sense? They say that karma can apply, but when we say karma can apply, we are demons? This makes no sense?

Anyway, we are not "embracing" anything but we are simply reporting what is happening, i.e. that because Sanat types encouraged ISKCON's children to worship molesters as their gurus, and his wife knew molesting was going on and she (and he) failed to take proper legal action etc., this has resulted in a lawsuit. Even their big hero Puru says the same thing on this point, these blind followers (Sanat types) caused this and thus are liable. If we are wrong here, then their hero Puru is also just as bad as we are? Puru says this lawsuit is the resultant karma of the GBC's gurus and their blind followers (i.e. Sanat/ Linda). So, if Puru is a demon for saying that, why are they publishing him? Srila Prabhupada also says that the false brhamanas ruined the Vedic culture, so does that means he "embraces" false brahamanas? No, he is simply reporting what happened.]

CB: This can be one of those thing that separates the demon from devotee. It is a no brainier at even the candala level. To be associated with these most heinous accusations against Srila Prabhupada, is to be part of the conspiracy of BLASPHEMY TO THE GURU OF THE UNIVERSE!!!!

[PADA: Correct. So Sanat/ Linda/ Puru are currently trying to endose those who say that Srila Prabhupada appointed homosexual pedophiles as his guru successors, they have become Nirmal ditto heads. We'd say: Wrong idea. We'd say, they are saying this just like Jaggadish is also, so they can get their own tails off the legal hook in this lawsuit. Thus they are blaming Srila Prabhupada (instead of admitting they are to blame) by joining with the idea that Prabhupada appointed and/or wanted pedophile deviants as gurus, which is Puru's main daily rant. That is why Sanat/ Linda are joining Puru/ Jaggadish in this blaming of Srila Prabhupada: that he wanted Kirtanananda to be the next guru, since it takes them off the hook, or so they think. Notice they never admit they are to blame? Well, they are and we all know it, and the kulis all know it as well. Notice: that Sanat is joining blaming Srila Prabhupada for appointing molester successors, just as Jaggadisha is saying as well.]

CB: But now, if he points out something he has been diligent to perceive, then what can I do????? So the question stands. Are you and yours cent per cent Prabhupadanugas? With no deviant affiliations other than taking gold from a dirty place, like we are "maybe" doing with Puranjana? If we make mistakes in regard to our Internet association, then we must make changes to suit our mentality. And offer an apology anywhere it is do, with full conviction. My wife has read your letter to give me a woman's perspective. She's pretty good like that, she's a woman. She has assured me that my first impression is the same as hers. The answer is NO. But the question has to be again asked do to the fact that Puranjana, primitively printed this heavy discourse.

It could have been handled a little bit better, but he insist on this format, so I would like to give it to him. A one word reply is sufficient and requested. Thank you, Hare Krsna.

Caturbahu dasa Bhakti

[PADA: Well, the Sanat/ Linda/ Mukunda team are trying to make it look like Srila Prabhupada created a homosexual guru cult, worshipping Kirtanananda, so they can save themselves. They are doing exactly what Jaggadisha and Nirmal are doing. Except Sanat is pretending to be a reformer.

Thanks pd]

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

NEW SITE: http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)

* http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
* http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)
* http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)
* http://www.JitendriyaBooks.com

*Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation

* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)

* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.

* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
28) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
29) www.acbspn.com/ BOMBAY India
30. www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)

31) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
32) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
33) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)