1) GOOD MORNING CHATURBAHU DASA!

Dear Caturbahu,

We're glad you've been clued a bit on quasi-religious rascals such as sanat/ mukunda /nnv and their admitedly worshipable pals like puru and kirtananda!??!!?? Just as we've been foolishly enamoured by their false 'prabhupadanuganess' in the begining (and later enormously disappointed!), you are still to have a rude awakening about their real nature and agendas, and be sure they gonna give you a cold shower, sooner or later. Although these 3rd world-war bunker hideouts self-promoting themselves as 'the deepest love for Srila Prabhupada ever' their direct actions are openly, constantly and shamelesly streamed both against really decent, honest Prabhupadanugas, and flies in the face of their own neglect resutling in victimized children and heavily abused ladies all over Iskcon.

At the same time, most miraculously, these chicken-shit brains support, endorse and worship no less characters as (!!!???) Puru (GM screamer, a homosexual guru lover?), Kirtananda (a prisoner, murderer and molester and homo), NNV (women-beater) and gaudiya matha deviators in general (bogus clique infamous for repetitious guru-killing and widespread homo-guru apa-siddhanta). So, how do we give credit to persons who intentionally?) mix apples and dog's feces? We don't get it, Caturbahu? It's a plain no-brainer to give those schmunks any credits, after their multitude and very cheeky confirmations of heartfelt grouping with all above mentioned weirdos and asuras - disguised as devotees.

Think about it Caturbahu, be a real kshatriya, don't just try to 'avoid vaishanava aparadha', because these people ain't Vaishnavas! Awake! Vaishnavas never lie, nor do they wanna chop up their own kids into a dog-food and beat their own "protected" ladies to blood! What to speak of mixing real Acharyas with some cheapo western and indian homo-idiots and their no-brainer materially motivated bozo-supporters!

To finish with a joke: what is it that little brain-eater worms do in the heads of the post'77 m-Iskcon and Gaudiya Matha deviants people? The answer is:........ they are starving...

ys, Ganapati & Prabhupadanugas

[PADA: Puru/ Sanat/ Mukunda's idea of "reforming IKSCON" is: by going backwards, to glorification of Kirtanananda as their idea of guru tattva, and promoting the Gaudiya Matha's homosexual guru lineage's founders and backers, oooops and their "New Edition of Bhagavad Gita" etc. This is so lame, even Sri Rama does not suggest this? He has vastly more sense? This means these above fellows are simply re-hashing their old 1978 idea to bring forward folks like Kirtanananda and their Gaudiya Matha colleagues, as we have pointed out several times, they are simply chewing the already 1978 chewed, which even the GBC has spit out and rejected? ys pd]

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2) RE SRI RAMA

Dear PADA pamho agtSP

Described correctly as a house with rats that needs not be burnt down, iskcon is now proving to be infested not only with rats but termites as well, covering 89.43% of its fragile structure. For those who hoped Srila Prabhupada's DOM might prop-up the tottering edifice through the introduction of a ballot-box...... it's time to face reality. Ravindra Svarupa's proposal is struggling at 6.29% on the CHAKRA plebiscite. Sri Rama's proposal lies at a fatal 4.29%. And Bahise (buffalo) JPS, has a staggering 89.43%.

Sri Rama wants saffron out of management. Ravindra wants elections and a maximum of twelve GBC members. Bahise wants more "saffron in management," "no elections," TOTAL CONTROL for HIMSELF and his OFFICERS (RATS) FOR LIFE (after life ...after life...af... )..... 89% of the termites AGREE with the Bahise. An overwhelming majority vote that says: "we're on a bad thing ....let's stick with it" or "if it's broken ....why fix it." Is this vote the result of iskcon's propaganda machine turning on itself? Blind as termites are; they recognize their enemies instinctively, but our iskcon crawlers follow in a steady line, nose to bum, behind the saffron-&-dollar-cloaked Pied Pipers' of Patala,

Ravindra Svarupa's and/or Sri Ram's proposals were NEVER EVER going to be accepted, because Iskcon works off an "accumulation through expansion program." Why would an iskcon preacher expand (look at Bahise, or any of the other saffron tight-arses) if he couldn't accumulate? Why would he accumulate, if elections threatened his lucre? Even Sri Ram's clause; permitting iskcon's Kali yuga sunnyasi's to keep all donations upto twenty thousand $'s, won no favour in the eyes of the Bahisedutas. It is disgraceful to see how these celibates (?) hide their lust for Laxmi with begging cloths, and how their 'disciples' give fellatio to the prospect of one day being leeches themselves.

[PADA: This is great, sannyasis can keep up to $20,000, and how about ...a nice Mercedes, a house in Beverly Hills, a few female massage therapists, a subscription to the Wall Street Journal (like at least one guru has) and the rest of the loot can be hidden in Swiss Banks or in the Bahamas. Meawhile, they are not inviting back the householders, in case no one has noticed. However, at the time of death it all has to go, the $20,000 open account dollars, 50,000 hidden asset dollars, even the gold toilet seat, rolex watch, it will be eaten down the chain of piranha succession by their wanne be "successors," next in line with their begging bowls full of stolen booty. This is why it is better to live by working for the karmis who are at least not saying they are gurus, that they are as pure as Jesus, while bilking the public and having illicit sex with followers etc.... Exploiting Srila Prabhupada for monetary gain, ....very sinful.]

SGD: In the 2000 Mayapura meetings, the gbc went before the deities to surrender ALL their HIDDEN bank accounts and assets. They promised to give up CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES.....

[PADA: Well that means there are still plenty of hidden bank accounts and criminal acts going on....]

SDG: Now Sri Rama offers them a compromise: - keep any donation under TWENTY THOUSAND Dollars for yourself, just hand in the extras. What is this nonsense? Who are these Tom, Dick & Harry bhagvans? Why do they need such large sums of money? Marble palaces in the holy dham? Whisper liners? Percodan? Enemas? Satin kaupins with velcro's bindings? How can anyone expect to walk spiritually upright with his mind on real estate?

[PADA: Vridavana residents painted hateful grafitti on Giriraja's taj mahal residence since they know that a sannyasa is not supposed to have such opulent digs for himself. Indeed, a sannyasa is supposed to have: no fixed residence? No. I'll take the Taj? Well, you cannot take one brick with you at the time of death. At the time of death some of these "gurus" may be thinking, oh, now what will happen to my golden rolex and Swiss bank balance?]

SDG: A desire to bonk his disciple? one hand down his cloth and the other on a danda? Why are these "leaders" encouraged with so much material facility? How much different are they from anyone else? When the lights are out, iskcon's "gurus" are as gross as the most uncultured living entities. This writer can remember a night spent taking rest near a "guru." He snored all night with mouth open wide and eyes only half closed..... talked garbled nonsense in his sleep and passed salvos of thunderous wind at regular intervals.

[PADA: Ummm, this is how Ravana's demon brother slept.]

SGD: ....it didn't smell like flowers either. On another occasion; we were forced to sit in a crowded temple room, unable to escape, while a "guru" talked about Vaisnava standards with a "boogie" hanging from his nostril. It is becoming very clear for most serious devotees; institutional religion sucks. It is being viewed by many within and without the society as boring and irrelevant to self realization. Devotees are traveling deeper into the books of His Divine Grace for spiritual sustenance. We know that when all is said and done; iskcon's "gurus" will be remembered only because they were given diksa by Srila Prabhupada. Doubtless there are some elementary spiritual facilities still available within current iskcon, but once the guru hoax becomes discernible; the legitimate soul-searching ceases and the crossroads are reached. Iskcon, when it chose to disobey the DOM and other relevant dictates of our Acarya Deva, donned the mantle of an ecclesiastical organization modeled on past political and military hierarchies with imperial pretensions.

[PADA: The FBI asked one of our associates if the GBC was modelled after the MAFIA?]

SGD: More and more, denominations are implementing doctrinal orthodoxy through the inviolability of spiritual democracy. Members of the Unification church will show pamphlets on their managerial structure when requested. Photos of "elders," their elected term in office and the temporary nature of their residence, is all in line with Srila Prabhupada's instruction. Our Seventh Day Adventist neighbours, also produced literature to show how Srila Prabhupada's DOM was working for them. Their officers are elected every three years, with an option for re-election. Low wages for its officers, a 'company car,' rented premises and monitored telephone bill, creates enough wealth for their organization to build a school and attached church every year. The only dingbats who can't see the light, are iskcon's crawlers and their Pied Pipers' of Patala.

Dandavats & pranams SGd

PS: Private Investigators have secured an interview with "Dave" the sound engineer. He is currently overseas but has agreed to give our PI the 'whole hog' when he returns on the 24th of this month. From our own conversation with the gentleman, he was very helpful and cooperative. All we are requesting is that he make the same statements to our representative as he made to us...so's we can have it authenticated.

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[PADA: Well, the bad news is that there are still some "devotees" out there who are pumping out this "appointed 11 successors" idea. That is where the writer got this bogus idea from....]

CC: angel108b@yahoo.com
Subject: Tragic error in Krishna article.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:10:08

Dear Sir,

Having just read the article about the Krsna Consciousness movement published yesterday in the Chronicle, I am compelled, without delay, to inform the author that he has been greviously misinformed regarding the founder's intentions for "successorship" in the institution he founded (ISKCON).

The theory that Prabhupada "appointed eleven successors" is the root fabrication which has empowered the well-publicized atrocities which accelerated dramatically when ISKCON'S shift of power became illegitimately formalized after the founder's departure. During his lifetime, Prabhupada employed a system for accepting disciples which didn't require his physical presence. Thousands were accepted who never physically met Prabhupada, and this system was officially established, in a 7/9/77 letter to all temples, to be continued "henceforward" --i.e after Prabhupada's departure--and was never retracted nor modified.

This was nothing new. Prabhupada did exactly what his teacher did in his institution, the Gaudia Math. He also didn't appoint any successor(s). The concept that anyone else could or needed to become a "guru" in ISKCON, to be respected as God's representative, appeared AFTER Prabhupada left, when eleven managers bluffed their way into positions of absolute power by misrepresenting an appointment to perform priestly rituals as a stamp of absolute divinity from Prabhupada.

About 90% of Prabhupada's followers left or were ex-communicated from ISKCON in protest to the new regime, which lasted about 10 years. Then in 1987 some envious "godbrothers" moved in for a piece of the pie in a showbottle reform. ISKCON now claims to have about 100 saints who were "appointed to godliness" by the same corrupt coterie, one of whom was, at his coronation, widely known to be a practicing homosexual pedophile--an activity denounced as unspeakably demoniac by ISKCON law.

These men are similar to a group of pseudo Christian priests claiming to be Jesus Christ's "living" successors. Because the world's governments rarely arrest such rascals, they mislead many in their pursuit of money, prestige and worship. Prabhupada stated in his will that "The system of management should continue as it is and there is no need of any change." Also all future proprietors of ISKCON temples were to be "his" disciples. Consequently, these eleven criminals, who the Chronicle writer mistakenly dubs as "successors," are presently being sued in the Calcutta High Court for clearly betraying the mandate of this legal document.

$100,000 was also offered to anyone who could offer a shred of proof that any appointment of gurus took place. Furthermore, a tremendous amount of evidence has recently surfaced that Prabhupada was systematically poisoned to death. The 408-page "Someone has Poisoned Me," documents recorded statements of Prabhupada such as his repeatedly stating he was being poisoned, conspirational whispers in the background of tapes, hair and other health analysis, eye and ear-witnesses to plotting, etc.

Regrettably, it appears the Chronicle author chose corrupt leaders of ISKCON and dubious scholars as his sources, otherwise he would never have written such a blatant falsehood which gravely misrepresents Prabhupada, a modern-day saint. Why did he not research the subject more carefully? There is no scarcity of sincere followers of Prabhupada who are trying to rectify the obnoxious disturbance created by these criminals disguised as priests. Why doesn't the author contact some of them for his facts? He knows the church is corrupt, yet obtains his information from them?

The Prabhupada Sankirtana Society (212-674-0698, PSS108@juno.com), headquarters at 48 Ave. B, NY, NY, is one of many groups who are successfully carrying on Prabhupada's missionary work in grateful separation from "IS-CON." A radically different version of ISKCON's history will be learned by consulting those who have no vested interest to maintain the status quo of cheating, lies and misrepresentation.

We sincerely hope the Chronicle author will, after due investigation, correct his unfortunate mistake as soon as possible by printing a retraction and apology. I will be very glad to offer any further assistance. Please respond and make us aware of your decisions in this important matter.

Sincerely, Jay Whitehead
(Jaya Krsna dasa)
Former ISKCON member.

P.S. The Turley law firm placed Prabhupada as a defendant ONLY because it helps their case. Prabhupada was extremely concerned about the children in the gurukulas, and never ever approved of any capital punishment whatsoever, what to speak of torture and rape. This is abundantly clear to anyone who reads Prabhupada's letters on the subject.

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

NEW SITE: http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)

* http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
* http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)
* http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)
* http://www.JitendriyaBooks.com

* pada's new pager number is 707-973-0372
press in your number then press pound, and pray that it works.

* Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation

* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 206-729-0111) dasdasdas@aol.com

* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)

* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.

* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive
02) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape

03) Poison tape transcript:
03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
04) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
05) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
06) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
07) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
08) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
09) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
10) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
11) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
12) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
13) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
14) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
14) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
15) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
16) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
17) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
19) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
20) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
20) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
21) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
22) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
23) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
24) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
25) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
26) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
27) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
28) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
29) www.acbspn.com/ BOMBAY India
30. www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)

31) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
32) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
33) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)