PADA Newsletter - 10. May 2001
5/10 PBS TV special - Date: May 10, 2001
From: angel108b@yahoo.com (Puranjana)


5/10 PBS TV special
FROM LOCANANANDA
Dear folks, PAMHO. AGTSP.

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PADA'S MOST WANTED LIST: Keep us apprised of the whereabouts of Jayapataka, Tamal, Hridayananda and other GBC, thanks.

...The Northwest premiere of the program titled: Faith & Fear: The Children of Krishna is on May 22, 2001 at 10pm on KCTS (PBS Seattle). This version is 75 min. We are still working on our national distribution. (PBS)

[PADA: Well, what can we say? May 22nd! (1986) is the exact date that Sulochana dasa was assassinated for his objecting to: "the GBC's enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophile's" cult. Practically all of "the devotees" at that time thought he was "an offender," "a crank," "a fool," and so on, and so they neglected to hear his (and pada's) message: that ISKCON is being turned into a child molester pooja cult. And many "devotees" still villify Sulochana with the same terms, even now? They are simply upset that he exposed their molester pooja cult?

Yet this same date, May 22nd, is the inaugural date that this above TV show is being aired. This is either an amazing coincidence or "divine payback"? From Sulochana dasa? In sum, Sulochana's message is "coming back from the grave" to haunt "the devotees" who neglected his message? And this TV show presents the DIRECT results of their "not" listening to his message, i.e. the mass child abuse and molesting of this cult. And the story will be made fully public. The children of ISKCON are the victims of this "homosexual pedophile worship experiment," and this "experiment" has failed them wholesale, and pada and Sulochana and others tried to save these children, and indeed the whole world, from this molester pooja project.

Then we STILL have GBC clone types, guys like Sanat - Mukunda and their lackeys like Naranarayana dasa advocating what what the GBC mood has been all along, that these children victims are not too important if not --expendable? Or worse, that these children are "ruru demons" who should be "chopped up and fed to dogs." That is how much compassion, mercy, human understanding, and feelings of remorse some of these "devotees" have. Sorry, these children were relying on some of you adults to save them. Yet you did not help them or us, and as a result some of these children are feeling they have to make a public case. There is no other good source of "internal" justice? And so their plight is "coming back" -- in public?

And many of the ex-children victims are WELL aware of the vicious anti-children "philosophies" of some GBC and similar other heartless zombies and their odious, non-human feelings, which are like robot-ized gestapo with as much "compassionate feeling" as a dead fish. Whereas even in dog society they show some mercy for their youngsters. So, all of these evil attitudes, which fully display a lack of human compassion, feeling, remorse, or even basic symptoms of life found in the dog society, are now coming back to haunt us collectively. Nor has any "devotee" group formed to help these children make a good lawsuit to get the GBC's responsible for these crimes against children? Rather, some "outside" Texas lawyer volunteered for the job, and then he gets "sauced" for not understanding the case better? Well, if "the devotees" understand the issues better, why have they not made a better lawsuit, for example in 1985 when Sulochana wanted one?

So we are glad that the truth is coming out because it will force people to quit worship of this homosexual pedophile guru lineage, and the backers of that lineages, such as the Gaudiya Matha supporters of the GBC like Narayana Maharaja. And Tripurari swami and others who wanted to get "voted in as guru" by that lineage will be seen for what they are as well. So, we hope that this will all gradually have the positive effect of getting rid of the molester lineage pooja, and we are convinced that in time, it will. thanks pd

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FROM LOCANANANDA:

There is no need to manufacture something new. For initiations to be valid there must be an officiating acarya who accepts the disciple on behalf of Srila Prabhupada. He chants on the initiation beads and chooses a spiritual name for the new initiate.

"In the meantime the devotees in Bangalore are being initiated by Srila Prabhupada personally." They are being initiated by an officiating acarya acting on Srila Prabhupada's behalf. "When the Temple President considers a devotee to be ready for initiation he writes a letter recommending the devotee to Srila Prabhupada."

Even while Srila Prabhupada was physically present, this practice was no longer required once the ritviks had been named. Devotees were accepted for initiation at the discretion of the ritvik representative. The only letter sent to Srila Prabhupada was a list of the new spiritual names of the initiates. Madhu Pandit Prabhu has attempted to circumvent the need for an officiating acarya who represents Srila Prabhupada in the initiation process. Without an officiating acarya, there is no real initiation.

"Then the devotee goes before Srila Prabhupada and prays: 'Dear Srila Prabhupada currently your ritvik representatives are not doing their service so I am asking you to please accept me as your disciple and inspire me to select a spiritual name.'"

Selecting one's own spiritual name is bogus. It was never practiced in the presence of Srila Prabhupada nor was it part of the process of ritvik initiation. It is the officiating acarya who chooses the spiritual name according to the system prescribed by Srila Prabhupada. "So in this way the ISKCON Bangalore devotees are being initiated by Srila Prabhupada."

Those initiated by an officiating acarya will worship Srila Prabhupada as preceptor and founder acarya, but officially they are his granddisciples. Srila Prabhupada was himself a strict follower of the previous acaryas. There is no instance mentioned in our scriptures of a departed vaisnava continuing to do the work of the acarya by accepting more and more disciples.

[PADA: Wrong, there are instances of devotees accepting departed acharyas (read "Our Living Guru" please). Also, Jesus is still accepting disciples and their sins, says Srila Prabhupada. And besides, the whole idea of a GBC to "conduct initiations on his behalf" means he will contine to be the acharya? And moreover, the May 28th answer to Satsvarupa's question, how will initiations be conducted in the future WHEN YOU ARE NO LONGER WITH US, is (by a proxy) ritvik system?]

Nor in the history of our sampradaya did any great acarya perform initiations by the thousands after his departure from this world.

[PADA: Umm, and that was the deviation of the Gaudiya Matha? That they did not do that?]

The correct understanding is that the departed spiritual master enters nitya lila pravistha.

[PADA: But he still lives on with the disciples forever?]

On Krishna's order, he may go somewhere else to act as the acarya, but in the minds of his disciples he has entered the eternal loving pastimes of the Supreme Lord and His eternal consort.

[PADA: No, he is always in lila, whether he is manifested on earth or not?]

Simultaneously and inconceivably, as an eternal associate of the Supreme Lord, the worshippable spiritual master is also seated in our hearts and continues to give us his blessings. He may also do this for granddisciples initiated by an officiating acarya. All followers of the great acarya continue to associate with him preceptorially after his physical departure.

[PADA: Grand-disciples is a concoction when referenced with the ritvik system, it is not mentioned in the July 9th letter or subsequent 1977 ritvik directives? The grand disciple refers to an order to become diksha guru, but that order was not given?]

The service offered to his mission by following his instructions is more important than service offered to his physical manifestation. Madhu Pandit Prabhu is a sincere devotee and servant of Srila Prabhupada. Still, that does not qualify him to introduce a manufactured process of initiation. That the devotees have become inspired to work harder or to dance with greater enthusiasm in kirtana does not justify deviating from the standard procedure.

Your servant,
Locanananda dasa

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01) http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)
02) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive

03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape
04) Poison tape transcript:
04) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
05) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
06) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
07) http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
08) http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)
09) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
10) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
11) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
12) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
13) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
14) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
15) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
16) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
17) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
17) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
18) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
19) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
20) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
21) http://www.krishnabooks.org Guptas KBI Books (he is a cheat)
22) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
23) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
23) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
24) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
25) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
26) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
27) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
28) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
29) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
30) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
31) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
32) www.acbspn.com/ Prabhupada Network
33) www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)
34) http://www.prabhupada.com/ BBT archives site
35) http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)

36) http://www.JitendriyaBooks.com Trading original SP. books
37) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
38) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
39) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)

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