RUBY RIDGE UPDATE

Naranarayana dasa (NNV) warns Sanat that his (violent) dialogue might produce another Ruby Ridge (i.e. a shoot out with the police and resultant deaths). Ummm, well right? We are thus so glad that NNV has finally taken up his new program of "redneck (karmi) protection." Very nice. Yet, NNV says the same Ruby Ridge dialgoue can and indeed should be applied to devotees. So it seems NNV is rather hoping that the Lord's devotees will be killed, Ruby ridge style? Anyway, NNV's new "save the rednecks" program is heartily welcomed by pada! Next, who knows, many lifetimes from now, he might actually argue that the Lord's devotees too should be saved from Ruby Ridge shootings as well! Good progress! Finally, the rednecks have a champion! Goody! thanks pd

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Wants recent photo of: bhagava William Ehrlichman. Can you Email me his face picture, the most updated?

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1) NEW PRABHUPADA PHOTO SITE

http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/vaisnava_synod/lst

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2) Czech update

Haribol prabhus, there was an hacker attack on our Petition webpages (they descibe a situation and practices of Czech Iskcon leaders and GBC', and our peroposal for changes). It was done by a man connected with Prague temple authorities. We shifted petition on: www.krsna.wz.cz

Audio recordings of GBC and TP are still on: www.sweb.cz/facts under "Jnanadipa das." Inspite of requests of dozens of Czech devotees to remove local leaders and change the GBC Bhaktivaibhava Swami, nothing changed. Prahladananda Swami and others Iskcon representatives refused to do so, saying that his disciples would protest... A situation is worse, and we are still forbidden to enter Iskcon centers and threatened by violence. After all our attempts to change the situation from within failed, we got in touch with anticult people, and there will be a long article about our petition and Czech Iskcon situation in a Dingir magazine soon. This magazine is about religions, movements and sects, and shows their good and bad sides.

Hare Krishna,
Czech devotees

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3) PRABHUPADA's suicide?

It just struck me how the idea that SRILA PRABHUPADA WOULD COMMIT SUICIDE is a very non Prabhupada way of doing things. Its completly in the mode of ignorance normally. AS AN ACARYA, to show how to leave the body its (suicide) for me not a very perfect example. Furthermore as and ACARAYA and thus a teacher showing by his own exemple for common peole to follow its highly unlikly that he choose the way of leaving in the mode of ignorance as well by taking drugs. After all SRILA PRABHUPADA warning that dying under the influence of a drug is very dangerous beacause it unabel one to think of Krishna.

IN his CASE is anything POSSIBLE but as a teacher it doesnt make sense at all. After all he is comming to preach and to save the most fallen and guide them out of their ignorance how to act in all circumstances and thus to chooose ways wich normally are in the mood of ignorance doesnt strand up to proper norm af action for an ACARYA whose action speaks to the conditions souls more than tons of books..

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4) REPORTING CHARITY ABUSES

PADA does not think that the authorized purpose of Mukunda dasa's "Prabhupada Samkirtana Society" charity is to make direct or indirect threats of violence, call other people "demons" and then handily provide many quotes how he thinks said demons should be dealth with, join up with Puru and his "guru" Kirtanananda, try to get another Jayatirtha head chopping incident in motion and so on. Indeed, this is not the stated purpose of his alleged charity (see below). So we'll write to the charity commission and report his threats and thus fraudulent misuse of his alleged charity. If anyone else would like to do so, here is the address...

Central Register Open from 0930-1600
20 Kings Parade/ Queens Dock/ Liverpool/ Press Office: 020 7674 2333/
Concerns about fundraising/ 0870 333 0123

feedback@charity-commission.gov.uk
review@charity-commission.gov.uk
complaints-liverpool@charity-commission.gov.uk
complaints-london@charity-commission.gov.uk
complaints-taunton@charity-commission.gov.uk
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/ 0870 333 0123

PRABHUPADA SANKIRTANA SOCIETY/ Registered Number 1065039/ Other Name(s) n/a
Correspondent Details MR M WHITELEY/ FLAT B/ 294 LEE STREET/ OLDHAM/ OL8
1BG/ 0161 628 5213

Objects 1) TO ADVANCE THE VEDIC RELIGION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TEACHINGS
OF HIS DIVINE GRACE A. C. BHAKTIVEDANTA SWAMI PRABHUPADA AND THE
MAINTENANCE OF DOCTRINES AND OBSERVANCES THAT SERVE TO PROMOTE THE SAID
RELIGION 2) TO RELIEVE POVERTY OF PERSONS IN OLDHAM AND SURROUNDING AREAS
Area Of Benefit OLDHAM AND SURROUNDING AREAS Registration Date 27/10/1997
Governing Document CONSTITUTION ADOPTED 28 MARCH 1997 AS AMENDED 5
SEPTEMBER 1997

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5) ADRIDHARANA REMOVED (well, says CHAKRA)

http://chakra.org/articles/2001/08/30/calcutta/index.htm

Apparently, at least according to CHAKRA and other unofficial pada sources, Adridharana dasa and his crew has been legally removed from the Calcutta temple. We sort of expected this type of thing since he was not really making a solid (criminal) legal approach to these issues. Rather, he sort of attempted a Gaudiya Matha styled long winded legal tactic of contesting the managerial and guru legacy, which simply already has led to 40 years in the Indian courts without any substantial resolution in the post 1936 case as well. One needs a real "cause celebre" (such as the poison issue) as we told Adri when he first started the IRM from square one.

That the GBC cheated, mismanaged or embezzled is perhaps provable, but has no easy court interest or provable criminal claim. Many other relgions have had the same problems so it is sort of like recycled old debates. Oh, the leaders mismanaged and misused funds, made themselves out to be the next spiritual leaders instead of mere managers, and so on. OK. This story is so "old news" in India it puts people to sleep. What would make a real impact in India is that --Srila Prabhupada was poisoned-- in order to make these embezzlements and false claims occur. This is the real substantial ROOT CAUSE claim that would interest folks. All the life members would also reduce or suspend their support and demand an investigation and so on. In sum, playing patty-cakes with the GBC will not make a winning case, you'd need a MUCH bigger CRIMINAL case and we tried to convince the IRM to use that, but they instead focused on sending people over to CHAKRA for advice from -- Tamal? Compromised. So, that is what has caused the real downfall of the IRM, compromising with Tamal. This guy Tamal says that Srila Prabhupada wanted (us? a conspiracy) to give him something to make him die, and then the IRM makes this Tamal is their "authority." This made the IRM dead on arrival, as one devotee stated to us at the time. thanks pd

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6) ITV's CORVETTE?

In a recent letter to Chakra, Nrisimhananda prabhu has stated: "Sravana's victim mentality is showing here. "I can't afford it - poor me." If I can't afford japa beads, then let me steal them from the temple store. If I can't afford deities, let me steal from the Jaipur wallah. If I can't afford the Caitanya Caritamrta, let me steal it from the book room. If I can't afford electricity to heat the temple, let me turn back the meter. His logic in this regard knows no boundaries because that mind-set is "cheating" mentality. If you can't afford it, then you don't get it. Krishna will provide another situation designed for the person without means - and it doesn't necessarily mean that you get what you want or think you need. Krishna knows best."

This conception that Srila Prabhupada's teachings should only be given to those who can afford the exhorbitant price is ridiculous. While Nrisimhananda is using Prabhupada's over-priced videos to pay for his expensive corvette, other devotees are distributing Srila Prabhupada's teachings at near cost price, enabling everyone to have the association of the pure devotee - which is what is actually needed in this society.

Prabhupada never wanted us to rip off other devotees. Today the costs for producing these audio and video CDs has fallen to less than 50 cents. Do you seriously think Prabhupada would approve of devotees being ripped off for $600? You can sell the CD for $10 and still get 20 times profit. If the CDs are sold at that rate, tens of thousands of devotees and congregation members would come forward to buy them. Of course, if we want to factor in the cost of someone's corvette, then the equation is thrown off and the only solution is to rip off the devotees.

These people want to keep Prabhupada's complete teachings, which are so essential in this age of controversy, as the sole property of the rich. And we all know who are the rich in ISKCON, the gurus and GBCs. The ordinary devotees do not have such money, and as a result the essential teachings are being kept away from them and in the hands of the elite. To counter this, some devotees have put the folio on the internet, and anyone can download it for free. It is only a matter of time before Prabhupada's videos will also be available on the internet for free. Already the commercial holywood movies are being pirated and distributed through the internet left and right, sometimes days after the film is released in the studio. It is only a matter of time before Srila Prabhupada's videos become available in a similar manner. I can't blame devotees for downloading such videos of the spiritual master. When Srila Prabhupada is being kept away from them by every means possible, it is only natural that they will resort to whatever means available.

I am happy that Brahmananda and Gargamuni are distributing Srila Prabhupada's teachings at an affordable price to the devotees and I would personally prefer to buy from them rather then give my money to pay for Nrisimhananda's corvette.

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7) (OZ) AUSTRALIA UPDATE

Rammy & the Jets
Hey kids plug into the faithless, maybe they are blind but Rammy makes them ageless. We'll kill the vege pizzas' tonight so stick around. Going to hear electric music solid walls of sound. Hey Kesi and Rahu have you seen them yet? they're so spaced out ..Ra..Ra..Ra..Ra..Rammy & the Jets.

Dear PADA pamho agtSP
Yes. Yes. We've read all about the wonderful Janamastmi programs in Iskcon's temples around the world. Chakra is full of it. But we find it hard to chew. What our reporters witnessed, bore no semblance to Chakra's hallowed articles. Guests at Iskcon's Sydney temple were systematically queued stewed and screwed by the management. Respectable Indian families and other unsuspecting guests, were exposed to IS-A-CON'S quid pro quo tactics. Under the pretense of celebrating Sri Krsna Janamastmi; people were invited to attend the mandir, but in fact, these invitations proved to be an exercise in pick-pocketing. Atmarama de Badam-Bhanga (TP of Sydney), sees Janamastmi with true Iskcon caksusa. He sells raffle-tickets, holds auctions, has "his men" running around with their hands in other people's pockets. This year he had Sri Krsna's guests queued up BUYING pizza-&- chips. It wasn't cheap either. Fifteen dollars got you three stiff pieces of ungodly pizza and a cup of polysaturated chips. And woe-and-betide you wasted time listening to an in-your-face preacher; the chips turned sludgy and the pizza stiffened tasteless. It dripped in old ghee. Our informant was smart; he dumped the gastritis (prasadam??) and ate the cup and plate instead. It's how he survived.

Anyway, we are told it's all part of Atmarama de Badam Bhanga's "Game Plan" which includes his desire to become a real estate property developer. That's right. He wants to take out a loan (3 1/2 million smackers) and purchase a "retreat." The older temple bunnies are against the TP's idea. The new bunnies may all run away. As it is; the temple bunnies are being made to carry buckets and beg for loose change from passing motorists. Wearing Food For Life badges (FFL), they actually dupe people into believing that Iskcon is a charity. But all the little bunnies know that charity begins at home. And home means Millfield; the Temple President's estate, where he keeps his Arabian horses, his new car with endless supply of paid-for-petrol, and where he takes his immodest tax-free wage packet. Hey! Sorry! This article wasn't supposed to be about Atmarama de Badam Bhanga. It's about his boss: Rammy Scammy (Ramai Swami; gbc Australia and GBC's: Chairman of the Bored). So we'll get on with it, pronto.

Rumour has it; Tamala got a financial settlement from the hospital. Apparently, the surgeon who operated on him left the scissors in Tamala's paunch after snipping his prostate. And just when people were marveling at the uncanny luck; Rammy Scammy has gone one better. After years of playing his organ (electric), and never-ever having any prostate problems, he has been made Chairman of iskcons' gbc. That's right folks; Chairman of the Bored. His fan club went berserk with the news. Take-away- pizza-shops up and down the coast of Australia (Rammy's favourite tucker) were over-baking in anticipation. Birch Carroll & Coyle the cinema people; printed an emerald pass for the Heavy-Metal-Maharaja. Rammy and his dear friend Venu Gopal (co-president Govardhan farm. NSW) can now enjoy deep analytical discourse as they exit one cinema house after another. Australia is proud of the swinging swamis' achievement. Who would have believed that this ex Madder Lake band member (left the band but is still searching for the lost chord) could have attained such dizzy heights? We have no doubt that this eleven-bar-Maha-Mantra-maharaja (with pukey sojourns into hip-hop) will have the gbc doing the hootchie-mama in no-time-flat.

Maharaja hasn't stopped celebrating his ascension to the creme de la creme. Recently he was seen insouciant; with peak cap, sunnies, surf -shorts and slippers, wandering from shop to shop looking (no doubt) at his dazzling reflection in the window. When we mentioned this to an old friend he said," I was selling paintings to a video shop in Townsville (QLD Australia). I was behind the counter and had the paintings down on the floor. When I stood up, I was looking straight at the maharaja. He (Rammy) (Ramai Swami) jerked his hand (holding four videos) behind his back. "What are you doing here?" he asked me. "What are you doing here?" I asked in return. The situation was very embarrassing. I turned my face away to give maharaja the chance to get off the hook. He took the opportunity and was gone in a flash. After he had gone I asked the shop-owner what sort of videos the maharaja was into. "He likes action, drama, and thrillers." I then looked at the videos maharaja had returned, they were pretty hairy "How often does he come here?" I asked the owner, "He's been coming here off-and-on for years," replied the video-vendor, without even the least suspicion that his customer was the Chairman of the GBC, a group who claim that "The Krsna Conscious Movement and Krsna are non different." Wow ! Wonder if Sri Krsna enjoys watching Arnie, Cruiz and Gere do their thing? So we know that the new "Chairman of the Bored" watches videos while his "boys" are running up and down the streets with buckets, begging for loose change. And can you imagine our celibate maharaja lying on his motel bed, watching the hero giving the heroine lessons in advanced meditation?? Does he use the..... Pause button?..... Rewind?..... Slow motion?

Ramai's ascension to the gbc throne will be accepted as an endorsement of his modus operandi. Soon we could expect to see every member of the iskcon gbc driving a Sun-Cruiser, and having in their wake; a caravan of new cars (purchased tax-ex on the gurukula account) to carry his band-members/collectors, and a bus to tote around his expensive musical equipment (valued well into the six figures and growing). Even though Rammy's band tells its audience, "Just see; you can make it in iskcon even if your licks are a thousand years old," they still can't make bhaktas. And the odd one that joins, looks longingly at the grhasta asram as a means of escaping Ram-Rod-Rammy. We remember a Rammy & the Jets gig in Canberra (Aus); for nearly three hours we were trapped into listening to the band do the old dinosaur disco. Even Indradumnya (don't feel right calling these guys swami anymore), was seen hiding behind a curtain with his palms over his ears. Some said that Indradumnya was just jealous because he wanted to do his ecstacy thing with the harmonium. And they were right. After Rammy's gig, Indradumnya gave us a rendition of Timothy Leary's version of Jaya Radha Madhava. Yeah Man. Iskcon's cooking.

As pointed out before in postings by this writer; Rammy (gbc Aus) and Atmarama das (tp Sydney) are the progenitors of the "bucket brigades:" An army of new and semi-used iskcon recruits that are off-loaded daily onto street intersections' around Australia. Approaching cars stopped at traffic-lights, they push buckets forward with the gbc approved Maha-mugging-Mantra :-"help the starving kids" Rammy and his "band", move up and down the coast of Australia following the sun and the holiday-makers, slowly but surely chiseling into their loose change. Rammy doesn't give a damn about starving kids...now if music was the food of life...he'd constipate them....and he does. Anyway, Rammy and Atmarama are raking in the cash, false pretenses or not. Soon the new gbc chairman will introduce a more readily identifiable deity onto iskcon altars:- a plastic bucket with the appropriate title "Parasite Bhagvan."

Dandavats & pranams SGd

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8) BSD Subject: Disap. Haridas Thakur

Obeisances. All glories to Prabhupada!

NM says congregational chanting (sankirtan) is a low and base activity of life. He tells his followers to chant 64 rounds and Find Themselves in Vrndavan. Well duh. He invited us to his temple in 1996 and left us alone for eight-hours. "Perfect gentleman." Perhaps it is not his fault and has grown absentminded.

Self-realization is explained by ISKCON Founder/acarya as first realizing Krishna. Like looking at a mirror in the darkness. You cannot see anything. When the sun comes up you can see your reflection. Krishna is like the sun. When the Krishna-sun comes up you can see everything clearly.

One follower says when he chants 64 rounds he can see Krishna in the trees. Isn't that called sahajiya? TKG was living naked in the trees when he met the pure devotee. He came down from his tree and Krishna's devotee told him, "You are not that body." Is it possible TKG was offended and got his revenge on Nov. 14, 1977? Talk about a grudge-sheesh! When asked why NM followers continue with their low and base lifestyle against the wishes of their "spiritual-master" (gag) their answer is they like the money too much.

Our source said they were looking for my entry on VNN and told them that I do not put anything on VNN, only wanted to make this info about NM so-called preaching known to the cyberworld. Our source says Jesus perfomed miracles. That's nice. Jesus means teacher and Christ means Krishna. He was teaching the people about God. They were not very favorable so he performed miracles. He taught them only basic morals. Thou shalt not kill and they killed Him. Lord of the meat-eaters.

His Divine Grace was asked about his miracles. He waved his hand over the assemby in Bhagavatam class and said, "This is my miracle. I have turned yavanas of the West into devotees." Jayate!

Haribol! Bsd

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

NEW SITE: http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)
CALCUTTA POLICE: calpol@calcuttapolice.com, jaihindu@hinduweb.org
pada's artwork website: http://hometown.aol.com/angels1008b/index.html

* pada's alternative email: angel108b@yahoo.com
* pada's new pager number is 707-973-0372
* press in your number then press pound, and pray that it works.
* Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation
* Seattle, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa 360-856-5411) dasdasdas@aol.com
* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)
* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on.
* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com

01) http://members.tripod.com/gurupoison (Tamal indictment)
02) http://mitglied.lycos.de/pada/ pada newsletter archive

03) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape
04) Poison tape transcript:
04) http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm
05) http://www.winink.com/tkg/ Poison whispers
06) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/poison/poison.htm Poison issue
07) http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Visoka cyber istagosthi)
08) http://www.krsna.tv (underground Hare Krishna web site)
09) www.prabhupada.cc Prabhupada samkirtana site
10) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/padaweb/puranjan.html Puranjana's Site
11) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose
12) http://pages.infinit.net/pragosh/home.html French site
13) http://members.aol.com/gauridas Gauridasa's site
14) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/ Rocana's site
15) www.harekrsna.de "Hare Krsna Homepage" (German)
16) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/ ISKCON Reform (German)
17) German translation of Final Order (pdf)
17) http://members.nbci.com/prabhupada/final.htm
18) http://members.xoom.com/prabhupada/ (German Expose)
19) http://www.equalsouls.org/tkg Srila Prabhupada wanted to be poisoned?
20) http://www.surrealist.org/gurukula/ Nandini's history site
21) http://www.krishnabooks.org Guptas KBI Books (he is a cheat)
22) http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc/ GBC
23) "illicit sex guru" rationalizations:
23) http://www.islandnet.com/krsna/vada/iskcon/right.htm
24) http://www.artnet.net/~yasoda/index.htm Appointment tape fraud
25) http://www.asitis.com Original Bhagavad-gita As It Is
26) http://krsnabook.com Original Krsna Book
27) http://www.krishna.org Prabhupada Hare Krishna News Network
28) http://folio.bhaktivedanta.org S.P. Folio Infobase CD-ROM
29) http://realaudio.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada RealAudio Archive
30) http://mp3.bhaktivedanta.org Prabhupada MP3 Bhajans, 2 CD set
31) www.domgbc.org (Direction Of Management)
32) www.acbspn.com/ Prabhupada Network
33) www.ROOPA.org (Raghunatha dasa's world economics proposal)
34) http://www.prabhupada.com/ BBT archives site
35) http://www.govinda.net (first editions of S.P. books)
36) www.oversoul.co.uk Devotional music

37) http://www.JitendriyaBooks.com Trading original SP. books
38) http://krsna.kgb.cz/hlavni.htm Prague Czech-devotees (english site)
39) http://tsa.ppp.ripco.net/das/articles.htm (DAS)
40) http://www.com.org/hb/ptd/cyber_gurukula.htm (Cyber gurukula)