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NEWSBITES

* The cover of TIME magazine asks, "Should You Be a Vegetarian"? Very good article and it is extremely favorable to vegetarianism.

* BERKELY TEMPLE managers say they are no longer allowing the followers of Narayana Maharaja to preach there. They will, however, let Trivrikrama swami come there and preach the glories of his "illicit sex with men, women and children" pedophile guru lineage.

* The LOS ANGELES devotees have been having harinama festivals on Hollywood Boulevard, in little India, and other places. They have also held a festival a while ago for Ramanuja and 20 people showed. Good progress!

* Rumor is that the son of Svavasa dasa has a condominium in Texas, this, after working as a restaurant clerk? Can anyone confirm this?

* Progress is being made in South America, in places like Santo Domingo. They apparently challenged local maha-bhogha-what VIRABAHU DASA to state whether he was liberated or not, and he said that he was not. No kidding. Virabahu also wrote the infamous bogus book "The Guru And What Srila Prabhupada Said," wherein he says that the experience you get (with your new guru like Ramesvara?) is the same experience you'd get by meeting any bona fide (Jesus like?) guru. Yep, Virabahu (like his pals Trivrikrama et al.) also thinks illicit sex with men, women and children is equal to -- meeting Jesus? (!) No wonder the GBC loves this guy and Narayana Maharaja folks thought Virabahu is not a mere priest: but "a guru." At least Harikesha complains the other gurus are not even using condoms? Wake up Virabahu, activity which spreads AIDS is not what "Jesus-like gurus" are doing!

* Not sure what happened to the IRM? No newsletters for quite a while. Rumor is that Adridharana dasa was legally kicked out of Calcutta temple and he lost his "property lawsuit." Ummm, this is why we said the IRM should attack the GBC on a more significant angle that makes a big "cause celebre," like the poison case. Another "guru property haggling lawsuit" in India is perhaps merely one of thousands of such cases, it may get lost in the shuffle. Not always a good way to make a point since they are as common as flies in June, a la Gaudiya Matha et al. Anyway, maybe the IRM will jump on board with us on this point, eventually, when they see it not only makes sense it might have greater impact to defeat the GBC. Certainly the IRM's "up till now" trying to defeat Srila Prabhupada by harassing his poison complaint has not helped them, and indeed they are viewed as de facto GBC followers by many Prabhupadanugas due to their defense of the GBC on this issue. When the IRM wrote that Srila Prabhupada never made any poison complaint, and indeed the IRM stated that they and their CHAKRA pals had placed "the last nail in the coffin" and buried Srila Prabhupada's poison complaint, it appears they shot themselves in the foot and placed a nail in their own coffin. Hence their silence......

* Dear PADA pamho agt Srila Prabhupada, Prithu is the GBC for Austria and he seems to be stepping in the same footprints of no other than Haricash. Like Hari he sends a dozen 16, 17 year old schoolbreakers running around in Vienna with no legality what so ever to make some quick money. After 2 or 3 years these boys and girls are burnt out for sure and are requested to leave for "good". Projects to build up which need legal bookkeeping are cancelled. My question? What happened and is the whereabout of Prthus son Madana Mohan das, who grew up in Vrindana Gurukula?

[PADA: I do not know, does anyone else?]

NARAYANA MAHARAJA UPDATE

(from their recent paper): There was a period, as predicted by Srila Prabhupada in Fourth Canto in Srimad-Bhagavatam, of unrest and disturbance. But it is now clear that the inner heart's desire of Srila Prabhupada to bring all souls to the lotus feet of Radha and Krsna in Vrndavana is being protected and expanded by Srila Prabhupada's dear friend, Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja. Our ever well wisher is still making arrangements for his sincere followers, and by the combined mercy of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja the powerful current of pure bhakti coming from Mahaprabhu and Rupa Gosvami is again flowing and inundating the entire world.

[PADA: Well yes there was "a period of chaos." Some of Srila Prabhupada's disciples deviated and declared that the priest post, or "GBC" post, was the same as the "guru" post. This was the main cause of "the chaos." And as such, this makes Narayana Maharaja one of the worst assistants to this "chaos" as the number one siddhanta advocate and supporter of the GBC's bogus guru project (sahajiya).]

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ARTICLE BY AMY ENGELER

* As the news of the Catholic priest's disgraceful conduct fills the newspapers, the world wonders how such things can go on in a religious environment. But it can be precisely that environment that fosters abusive and dysfunctional behavior. Take the example of the Hare Krishnas. Slowly emerging revelations of abuse have pitted the movement's original baby boomer members against their own grown children, and the conflict seems unresolvable.

[PADA: Some of the original Western Hare Krishna devotees (formerly "baby boomer" children of the 1960s) were found to be criticizing their own parent's "overly materialistic and corrupt society," which apparently included both Church and State. Ironically, now it is the offspring of the self-same "baby boomer" generation that are pointing out the flaws of their parent's "overly materialistic" -- and apparently corrupt -- Church. Eventually this will expose the lack of faith and determination if not "acquiescing with corruption" of the "original baby boomers." The child abuse lawsuit will also expose the elderly "senior devotee" supporters who after 1977 endorsed "the Hare Krishna's" abusive and corrupt policy makers as "gurus," such as Sridhara Maharaja and Narayana Maharaja from India. Of course these "senior devotees" have already supported homsexual and abusive "guru lineages" previously, and this was criticized by ISKCON's founder Srila Prabhupada. And since many of the corrupt leaders who created the abusive policies are still in charge of ISKCON, the conflict is indeed "unresolvable."]

* In October 2001, 91 plaintiffs in their late 20s and early 30s filed a $400 million lawsuit in a Texas district court against more than a dozen Hare Krishna temples and organizations and former leaders of the movement. The suit alleges that horrendous sexual and physical abuse occurred in at least eight of the eleven Hare Krishna boarding schools in the 1970s and 80s. The appalled movement elders, who had learned of the abuse five years earlier, did not dispute the claims.

[PADA: The "movement elders" of ISKCON as well as many from the rank and file knew about many of the criminal actions being orchestrated by their "gurus"as early as 1978. And some of them knew of the molesting problems way before 1996 as well. This article falsely states that the abuses were only known recently. Wrong. This is why the leaders "did not dispute the claims," they knew the claims were accurate all along. What has happened instead is that those of us who were protesting the child molesting guru regime since as early as 1979 have been shunned, banned, beaten, and sometimes assassinated. "The problems" were not all of a sudden discovered recently, they were known and viciously and violently covered up.]

* But they argued that since the boarding schools are now closed (some because of abuse some because they were too costly to run) it would be unfair to force the movement to sell off major assets in order to placate the young people over events that had taken place 20 or 30 years ago.

[PADA: This is actually a good indication. ISKCON's leaders are seeing that trying to oppose the children's claims in court will be very ugly for them and ultimately fruitless. And the children will succeed in any case since they have so many horrific claims of various abuses. Thus the leaders have thrown in the towel early on, sparing all of us a lot of very ugly and emotionally charged testimony in court. Or maybe not, there may still be a public and open court case. The leaders may have only delayed their day in court with their bankruptcy claims, which is of course good for them since they can now stuff some more money for themselves under the carpet just in case ISKCON gets into trouble.]

* Instead the Krishna's announced in February that the temples named in the suit would file for chapter 11 bankruptcy. This would effectively stop the legal proceeding. Instead of using their limited resources to fight the suit, the Krishnas could establish a fund for the children who suffered. The victims of abuse were undeterred, unwilling to paper over the deep rift that had formed between the generations.

The International Society for Krishna consciousness (ISKCON) founded in New York in 1966 and known as the Hare Krishna movement, once held a powerful appeal for youth disillusioned by American society and the Vietnam war. By the early 1970s, several thousand young people had given up everything to follow Srila Prabhupada, the movement's elderly founder, and build temples and farm ashrams across America and later in Europe and South America. By joining the Hare Krishnas, they became members of a strict Hindu congregation that had originated in India. They shaved their scalps and wore fluttering orange robes, they worship Krishna over all other Hindu Gods, they followed scriptures written thousands of years before Jesus and aspired to live simply without material attachment as prescribed in the Vedic literatures.

It was so simple then. A 23 year old from Mississippi named True Diane Faust felt the same aversion to the American mainstream as the disaffected young devotees. Faust ran into a group of devotees in downtown Dallas. As she sat there, rapt, in her hippie clothes, everything just clicked for her. Other devotees describe the moment as "walking through a wall of water."

At that time the movement was just six years old and its leader had already made a name for himself. Prabhupada's translations of the Bhagavad Gita and other sacred texts were widely respected and used for college courses. He'd grown close to John Lennon and George Harrison, who donated a 17 acre estate outside London to the movement in the early 1970s. The Krishnas purchased large tracts of land in West Virginia and Pennsylvania, a building in downtown Manhattan and nearly a block of Watseka Avenue in Los Angeles -- largely with money from the sales of Prabhupada's translations, which also fueled a successful book publishing business.

By the time Prabhupada blessed a bowing Faust and renamed her Bimala -- which means spotless in Sanskrit, -- his movement was opening nearly a dozen new temples each year in American cities. (At its height there were alomost 10,000 devotees living in the temples and farms). Bimala initially shared a bedroom in the Dallas temple with her husband and two other young couples. She went to the ritual ceremonies at the temples altar beginning at 4:30 am, attended daily scripture class and chanted for the requisite hour and a half.

Bimala started typesetting and designing little booklets that her God brothers pressed into people's hand at the airports. Work was unpaid, in the serviced of Krishna. She lived and ate at temples and if she needed anything extra such as tampons or toothpaste, she'd ask the temple treasurer to add it to his shopping list. The mundane things of life -- tax returns, grocery shopping, career, even news of the ongoing war -- had ceased to be a concern. Being a full time monk was far more meaningful, she thought, than her former job teaching junior high school English. This life seemed like bliss.

In that same submissive spirit, Bimala sent her 5 year old son, Ish, to a Hare Krishna school in 1977. "It hurt to be separated from him," she says, "but it was just what you did in those days." The schools, scattered across the country and in India, combined round the clock child care with spiritual training. The idea was to keep the children safe from the influences of the outside world while the parents were freed up to work for the movement.

In Autumn of that year (1977) the movement fell into a crisis when Prabhupada died at the age of 81. In his will, he'd appoint 11 loyal young men to take over for him. Each was to run a zone of the country, in which he would be responsible for the welfare of all devotees. These "zonal gurus" reported to a board of directors, called the Governing Body Commission (GBC). Unfortunately, the personal qualities that attracted devotees to Prabhupada's movement and his strict regimen of rituals and work were not necessarily leadership assets. His followers, finding themselves without a spiritual guide, had difficulty maintaing the Eastern structure of gurus and disciples that Srila Prabhupada had established. Bill Ogle, 54, a former GBC member, noticed it right away. "You have some guy from Los Angeles who grew up surfing and went to a university," says Ogle, "He's thirty years old and he's been a devotee for five or six years and suddenly he's an enlightened guru? Its just farcical."

[PADA: Balavanta's "farce" is not so funny for those of us who were abused or those of us who protested and were banned, beat and shot to death. Nor is Balavanta telling the public what really happened? He is still covering up for the molester guru lineage? He de facto says that Srila Prabhupada's system of managing is a "farce," Srila Prabhupada made "a big mistake" and he appointed some fools into the post of enlightened gurus? No, there never was any guru appointment. Why doesn't Balavanta start off by telling the public that the eleven guru program is a farce -- because it was a concoction of the GBC and the eleven, and not "found in Srila Prabhupada's will"?

Why doesn't Balavanta tell people that there was an apparent poison conspiracy to place the eleven into the post of gurus? This is indirectly explained in Amy Engeler's article, Balavanta instead went off to law school and quit bothering himself with these "issues." Head in the sand. To the peril of the children of ISKCON. So this is why he is so bewildered now, well yes, this was all a farce, but he does not identify who made the farce. He does not say clearly. And so he is indirectly blaming Srila Prabhupada. And this is why some of the child molestation victims also blame Srila Prabhupada, they learned this from folks like Balavanta. This is indirectly like saying "Jesus is not a good manager, he made some bogus Popes."

Therefore the children of ISKCON, particularly those who were abused, are not very impressed with the current management and leadership of the movement. Nor are they too impressed with the bewildered indirect blamers of Srila Prabhupada like the GBC and their de facto legal advisors like Balavanta. Nor do the former children see that genuine changes have been made to ISKCON, for example to remove the corrupt leaders that were supposed to be the "watchdogs" for the children. Nor do they do not see a genuine remedy to the complaints of many victims. Worse, many of the big leaders who started "the troubles" especially after 1977 are -- still in charge of ISKCON.

The real Hare Krishna religion will go on even without the official church or ISKCON. However the false Hare Krishna movement may dwindle and may not recover. Of course since the false Hare Krishna religion has created and supported "the enforced cult ritualistic worship of homosexual pedophiles as gurus," which created a wave of mass child molestation, and has orchestrated the assassinations of dissenters to their deviated policies, we hope the false movement indeed fails and does not recover.

It is amazing how powerfully the false "guru appointment" of eleven GBC has persevered. Yet, as our earlier literature pointed out in 1985, there was no mention of even one "appointed guru," what to speak of eleven "appointed gurus" in "the will." Perhaps this is why "the will" was hidden until we liberated it from a guru's safe in 1984? Srila Prabhupada also says the opposite of the above contentions, for example there is no such thing as a "zonal" or limited geographical area for a guru. Yet here we find that instead of citing Srila Prabhupada, or his will, there is a direct quote from the GBC's 1978 "advisor," Sridhara Maharaja, "there will be an acharya for the zone." Thus, the "guru appointment" has survived; the "zonal guru" idea has survived; and the idea that "the guru" is subordinated to a "Board of Governors" (also Sridhara Maharaja and his Gaudiya Matha's idea) is still alive, and so on. Yet none of this was ever mentioned -- by Srila Prabhupada? Nor was any of this found in "the will." Nor does it make any sense that a person like Jesus, a guru, would be subordinated to the votes of a Church Governing Body, and so on? Yet all of these confused contradictions are still being presented as Srila Prabhupada's -- final will?]

* His followers, finding themselves without a spiritual guide, had difficulty maintaing the Eastern structure of gurus and disciples that Srila Prabhupada had established.

[PADA: Once again, this is all very confused? If Srila Prabhupada had just "appointed" eleven "gurus" in his will, then he seemingly provided not just one but many "spiritual guides"? "Gurus" no less? Now we find that he had not appointed any gurus since people were having difficulty "without any spiritual guide"? And did Srila Prabhupada establish the "Eastern" system of gurus, or did he not establish the "Western" system of a Church council or a Governing Body and priests (ritviks)? Where did he detail how this "structure" of eleven gurus was going to operate? He never did. Yet newspaper reporters are still being told: this is what he ordered?]

* Bill Ogle, 54, a former GBC member, noticed it right away.

[PADA: Well if Balavanta realized right away that there were "no spiritual guides," why did he support that the eleven GBC were gurus?]

* Balavanta (Bill Ogle): "You have some guy from Los Angeles who grew up surfing and went to a university," says Ogle, "He's thirty years old and he's been a devotee for five or six years and suddenly he's an enlightened guru? Its just farcical."

[PADA: As a class, the original members like Balavanta, or "first generation" of Western Hare Krishna devotees have often been very reluctant to take practical measures to reign in the well known "abusive and dysfunctional" behaviors of some of their excessive "leaders," leaders of the Hare Krishna movement (or ISKCON) -- to the peril of the children of the movement. This attitude has lead to larger "abusive and dysfunctional" society wide policies which have in turn created serious problems for many rank and file members and particularly for the more vulnerable members, not only the children but women and the elderly. Even some of the society's cows have ended up being treated very poorly due to the policy of extreme negligence for the general citizens and opulent lifestyles for the "leaders." While folks like Balavanta were hiding out in a law school protecting their private assets and interests and not the citizens of their church, not even the children's.

"The troubles" have persisted since many "original members" helped support a variety of methods to artificially silence and suppress dissenters to the "mistreatment" policies, including such issues as the child molesting problem. Or they ran off (to law school) and did almost nothing to help the ever increasing wave of victims. In other cases some of the "original members" have simply tried to hide, ignore, deny and "paper over" the problems. Worse, some of the "original members" have not only been vociferous supporters of the abusive and dysfunctional "managerial systems" created by the "leaders," they have acquiesced to if not supported the policies of banning, beating and even killing "dissenters." These have been some of the methods of suppressing "dissenters" to policies such as the enforced worship of homosexual pedophiles as "gurus."

This problem has been true especially after 1977 when the founder of the Hare Krishna religion, A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, left his body in India. It is perhaps no small coincidence that in his last days in November of 1977 the founder of ISKCON, Srila Prabhupada, complained that he was being given poison apparently by his "most trusted leaders." And yet to date not many ISKCON members are even showing much concern for this issue either? Indeed, even after powerful bona fide forensic evidence of a "poison conspiracy plot" has surfaced, there has not been as much alarm or concern as one would think would normally occur. Of course this begs the question, if some of the "leaders" would poison the founder, would they not also mistreat his rank and file followers?

The apparent "asleep at the switch" mentality is yet another symptom of the dysfunctionality that has overtaken the Hare Krishnas as a group, at least for the moment. Yet gradually more and more of the Hare Krishnas are waking up lately due to the pressures of such things as ongoing bad media reports, the child molestation lawsuit, the poisoning of the founder investigation and so on, exactly as many Catholics are now demanding a more accountable system of management due to pressure from their bad media, lawsuits and exposes.

That many of the Hare Krishnas failed to address the problems in ISKCON was due to their thinking -- just like their Catholic counterparts -- "the status quo must be preserved, even if it is corrupt." A dysfunctional "don't make waves" environment took over much of ISKCON. Oddly, many of the "original" Hare Krishna members had rebelled against this same exact attitude themselves in the 1960s. In the 1960s it was quite common to hear slogans such as, "Down with the corrupt government! Down with the corrupt multinational corporate world"! And more importantly, "Down with the corrupt 'corporate' church which has supported and blessed 'all the above' as holy and divine with their 'status quo' attitude!"

And so it is very odd indeed that many of the original Hare Krishna "elders" find themselves in the position of being viewed -- exactly as their own parents were viewed -- as the same identical corrupt supporters of a corrupt "corporate" state and religion. And just as some of the 1960s "original Krishnas" opposed their parents, fighting with their parent's "false values," some of the original Hare Krishnas are having the same identical fight, this time with their own children? History repeats? The only problem here is that in the 1960s the "baby boomer" children were fighting their parents mainly over issues such as the United States involement in the Viet Nam war. This war is still seen as a murky "fight against communism" with no clearly defined bad guys and good guys. Whereas in the current fight against mass child molesting, this is clearly a black and white issue: it is evil. Therefore the children of Krishna have a much more powerful "cause celebre" complaint against their parents or their Church's policies -- policies which many of their parents acquiesed to.

In any case the overall resultant "lack of policing" especially after 1977 subsequently created a very deteriorated situation for the rank and file members of ISKCON's temples and schools. And this actually lead to an increase in the abusive and dysfunctional behaviors all over the ISKCON society, even towards the children, since an increasing number of "abusive and dysfunctional people" are attracted to environments where they are protected, they can flourish, and they can add many more and more like minded members -- acting with relative impunity. The above analysis by Amy Engeler, that such abusive and dysfunctional behaviors can be created in an environment like the Catholic Church, or within any other tightly controlled (false) "spiritual environment" is correct.

This unfortunately included a lack of properly addressing problems such as child abuse and molestation in ISKCON. Worse, some "original elders" still support the deviated leaders who often pose as "gurus." Or there are "original member" who say that whatever the GBC does in the name of ISKCON, and whatever deviant policy they create, they cannot be sued under any circumstances since this is "attacking God and Srila Prabhupada"? Never mind that the name of ISKCON is being tarnished if not ruined by allowing the leaders to create these problems anyway? Never mind that allowing these crises to go unattended has created severe problems for the rank and file members of ISKCON and especially the youth of ISKCON? And the end result of this ideology is that the abusers and molesters have been protected. Therefore the impression among the "second generation" is that for the above and other reasons, or excuses, there has not been any accountability to the crimes of abuse that have occurred to the second generation. The good news is that the lawsuit has focused the issue into the public. Therefore the old tricks of suppressing, even banning, beating and orchestrating assassinations can no longer be applied, the issues are now too much open in the public eye.]

*Just 35 years old and without the resources and history of the Catholic Church, the Hare Krishna movement may never recover.

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This is a transcript of AM broadcast at 0800 AEST on local radio.

Beer swilling in India

AM - Friday, June 21, 2002 8:27

LINDA MOTTRAM: The people of New Delhi have been contemplating the threat of war with Pakistan and they've been doing it under blazing skies, in the hottest months of the year for the city, with temperatures regularly reaching 44 degrees.

For decades, though, its been hard to find a cold beer for relief because of moral conservatism backed by strict government regulation, which means that currently, outside luxury hotels and a few swish bars and restaurants, only 280 dim and grungy, government-run outlets sell alcohol in the massive city.

But that is all about to change.

From New Delhi, South Asia Correspondent Geoff Thompson reports.

GEOFF THOMPSON: Knock off time in New Delhi and a phalanx of blokes have started their surge, through the turnstile of the local government grog shop. It's diminutive, dingy and dark and the beer's usually warm, sweltering away in the heat, like the patrons who pluck it from the shelves.

It's a scene about to change. New reforms will see beer made available in stores and markets as well as from seventy private liquor stores soon being allowed to open.

It's yet another sign of India's shifting character and as it struggles to free up its heavily regulated old economy, beer home delivery will also be permitted via the new economy internet.

GEOFF THOMPSON: I see you've got some Australian Fosters beer in your hand. What do you think about the changes in the law to make it easier to buy alcohol in Delhi?

VOX POP: It's going to be very easy because they are going to open some hundred more installations, including some private farms etc. You see there is a big queue here; if you open some private agencies it will be easier to buy beer.

You can order at home also by phone or by email. It's going to be very good, this is very good, I'm going through many times.

VOX POP: I love it because it's easier there's no need to stand in a queue.

GEOFF THOMPSON: New Delhi is a place where alcohol has been very tightly controlled in the past, do you think changes...

VOX POP: It was very controlled, because it's not supposed to be. It's will be more easier to drink.

GEOFF THOMPSON: One of the beneficiaries will be Fosters which has been selling beer in India for the past four years. The brand is already the No.2 seller in what's called New Delhi's mild beer market.

Fosters Managing Director in India is Pradeep Gidwani.

PRADEEP GIDWANI: Now, alcohol was the last bastion because it's controlled by state and every state has to come through with policy changes. So alcohol has been restricted so far and what these policies are likely to therefore do is lead to a bit more freeing up. Thereby giving consumers a choice.

GEOFF THOMPSON: But in a time of looming conflicts not everyone thinks New Delhi is quite ready for a beer revolution.

Professor Ashwini Ray is a political scientist at Jawaharlal Nehru University.

ASHWINI RAY: I'm must confessed that I'm quite nervous about this pace of opening up and removing all constraints about alcohol drinking. I'm not a puritan. I myself have my drink, you know.

To put it across sharply, I think the citizens of Delhi are yet to develop a civic consciousness to an extent where one would trust them with alcohol. Even without alcohol they are bad enough, with it they would have a new alibi for violence.

SITES TO CHECK OUT:

* Tamal Krishna Goswami's Disappearance 15. March 2002
* http://CAEaudio.com Jack Mitchell and the poison whispers
* http://www.unlimited-resources.com/Anubhavananda.html
* http://www.b-i-f.org Poison Issue (Bhaktivedanta Investigation Force)
* http://home.attbi.com/~valenzuela727/ Prabhupada Center for Vedic Studies SRI MUKUNDA 1
* http://www.geocities.com/srimukunda SRI MUKUNDA 2
* http://www.saradiya.com Saradiya Dasi, artwork site of an early disciple of Srila Prabhupada
* http://surrealist.org/gurukula/lawsuit.html gurukula lawsuit
* http://krishnaconsciousnessmovement.com
* http://www.harekrsna.com

* http://www.harekrsna.com/vada/poison/poison.htm The Poison link
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933 Poison tape
* http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3933/19990519.htm Poison tape transcript
* http://www.egroups.com/group/Vaisnavacouncil (Vaishnava council, Visoka cyber istagosthi)
* http://mitglied.lycos.de/gbc GBC expose

* "Prabhupada Samkirtan Society" (New York city) http://www.prabhupada.cc/
* Devotee's new business: http://www.refillguru.com/
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* CALCUTTA POLICE: calpol@calcuttapolice.com, jaihindu@hinduweb.org

* Book For Sale "Someone Has Poisoned Me," You can get it from: New Jaipur Press/ POB 208/ Mayodan NC 27027 $10.00 requested donation
* BERKELEY California. Hare Krishna Youth, 510-389-3346 conducts regular harinam parties, arotikes, cooking classes, college preaching, Prabhupada video nights, and so on, email: hky108@yahoo.com
* NEW YORK "Prabhupada Sankirtana Society" Headquarters 48 Ave. B NY, NY 10009 (212) 674-0680, PSS108@juno.com
* Seattle Devotees, Wa (Dhamaghosa dasa dasdasdas@aol.com) 8805 Harrison Rd Sedro Woolley Wa. phone: 360-856-5411
* MONTREAL, Canada, Hasti Gopala Dasa (for details write to: hasti90@hotmail.com)
* LA, Prabhupada Anugas: 3722 Delmas Terrace, # 5, Los Angeles, California 90034, phone: 310 287-1070 (Culver City)
* Anaheim "New Mayapur Temple" 302 South Broder Street, Anaheim, Calafornia. Phone 714 952-2479
* Los Angeles devotees, krishna@krishna.org (Madhudvisa dasa: near Disneyland, Orange County)

* BBC's "Sunday Religion and Ethics" show aired an eight minute segment about ISKCON's bankruptcy
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/tv_radio/sunday/index.shtml
* http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/realmedia/sunday/s20020210f.ram